Election Day News Links and Coverage

[ChloeTzang]

@chloe - let me know if this is out of bounds via PM. I found it relevant but I know you focused on news.

Post-Election Lawsuits Are Bad for Democracy​

Litigating votes reinforces the view of whichever side loses that, somewhere along the way, they’ve been cheated.

Totally relevant IMO and I agree. It's going to happen but it's not good. Litigation should only be for exceptional circumstances.

 

[ChloeTzang]

This is a surprise for me. I have been reading the inky version of the Daily Mail all my life. It has changed very much over the last couple of years following the retirement of its legendary editor Paul Dacre a couple of years ago and is now pushing its brand in overseas markets. But it is first and foremost a United Kingdom publication.

Is there not a neutral publication in the United States that would be acceptable to all shades of opinion to provide a running results service?

it has a US edition which I find has pretty good coverage of US news without the inherent biases every US media outlet has.

 

[SimonDoom]

Is there not a neutral publication in the United States that would be acceptable to all shades of opinion to provide a running results service?

I think it's difficult to find something that everyone would regard as neutral. For me, personally, I abandon the hope of neutrality and choose instead to get my news from different sources, with the expectation that they're all going to exhibit some degree of bias. So, I've bookmarked different sites with different perspectives on my browser and will surf from one to the other.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

What's the over and under on trump wanting to stop the vote count...again.

I suspect that it's about the same as the Democrats being geared up to challenge close enough to get hands on ballots...

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Totally relevant IMO and I agree. It's going to happen but it's not good. Litigation should only be for exceptional circumstances.

No

It is good.

We have three branches for a reason...

 

[ChloeTzang]

First votes cast in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire, just after midnight. The results were too close to call, as the half dozen voters were split three-to-three between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. It's actually a sharp swing from 2020, when Joe Biden swept all five who voted against Trump. Republican Governor Kelly Ayotte bested her Democrat opponent, 5-1, while Democrat Maggie Goodlander won the tally for town's Congressional district, 4-2.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Election-Day-cast-Dixville-Notch-result.html

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Everyone should be confident of the results and when you are not, a referee can set some people's mind to rest.

You don't need all the deniers caught-up-in-the-moment.

The True Believer will never give up.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

First votes cast in Dixville Notch, New Hampshire, just after midnight. The results were too close to call, as the half dozen voters were split three-to-three between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. It's actually a sharp swing from 2020, when Joe Biden swept all five who voted against Trump. Republican Governor Kelly Ayotte bested her Democrat opponent, 5-1, while Democrat Maggie Goodlander won the tally for town's Congressional district, 4-2.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Election-Day-cast-Dixville-Notch-result.html

novelty

zero electoral votes attached

 

[ChloeTzang]

Latest polls and state by state projections

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Trump-Kamala-Harris-Republican-Democrat.html

 

[LLCox]

Here ya go...

 

[MiaBabe23]

This is a surprise for me. I have been reading the inky version of the Daily Mail all my life. It has changed very much over the last couple of years following the retirement of its legendary editor Paul Dacre a couple of years ago and is now pushing its brand in overseas markets. But it is first and foremost a United Kingdom publication.

Is there not a neutral publication in the United States that would be acceptable to all shades of opinion to provide a running results service?

AP is your best option if you want facts above all else
You may find it quite revealing if you genuinely think the likes of the Mail are impartial
Here’s a useful chart from Harvard - personally I think it overstates reliability for some and underestimates bias - it lowers factual level for analysis as much as for inaccuracy - but it at least gives you a comparative sense of sources, and a guide to some of the more factual and impartial sources

https://guides.library.harvard.edu/newsleans/thechart

 

[SimonDoom]

I'll just say this. If a station or site spends more than 15 seconds covering Peanut the squirrel, I'm out.

 

[ChloeTzang]

AP is your best option if you want facts above all else
You may find it quite revealing if you genuinely think the likes of the Mail are impartial
Here’s a useful chart from Harvard - personally I think it overstates reliability for some and underestimates bias - it lowers factual level for analysis as much as for inaccuracy - but it at least gives you a comparative sense of sources, and a guide to some of the more factual and impartial sources

https://guides.library.harvard.edu/newsleans/thechart

That's a good guide, and I see that have Daily Mail aligned with the middle more or less, and that middle of the road positioning is why I like using them. They don't go hard left or right and their news is generally fairly reliable and with minimal bias.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Technical issues have been reported in the early morning hours in Indiana and crucial Pennsylvania, where voters in Cambria County were left waiting for the ballot machines to be fixed.

Election officials have reported that several ballot scanners are down in Cambria County in the swing state of Pennsylvania. Voters have shared footage of people standing in line as the voting process was interrupted by the technical issues. Voters using paper ballots and being told to put them in a drop box. Here we go again.....and in Pennsylvania....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Kamala-Harris-Donald-Trump-fight-victory.html

 

[HisArpy]

Technical issues have been reported in the early morning hours in Indiana and crucial Pennsylvania, where voters in Cambria County were left waiting for the ballot machines to be fixed.

Election officials have reported that several ballot scanners are down in Cambria County in the swing state of Pennsylvania. Voters have shared footage of people standing in line as the voting process was interrupted by the technical issues. Voters using paper ballots and being told to put them in a drop box. Here we go again.....and in Pennsylvania....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Kamala-Harris-Donald-Trump-fight-victory.html

It's almost like we've seen this movie before.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

It's almost like we've seen this movie before.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Dawn voters line up to cast ballots in Trump vs Harris blockbuster election​

More voting machine problems in Queens, NY.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ballot-trump-kamala-harris-election-2024.html

 

[south7eventh]

AP is your best option if you want facts above all else
You may find it quite revealing if you genuinely think the likes of the Mail are impartial
Here’s a useful chart from Harvard - personally I think it overstates reliability for some and underestimates bias - it lowers factual level for analysis as much as for inaccuracy - but it at least gives you a comparative sense of sources, and a guide to some of the more factual and impartial sources

https://guides.library.harvard.edu/newsleans/thechart

Thank you providing the Harvard chart it is an excellent and informative production.

You are correct that the Daily Mail is not impartial but it provides coverage that meets my bias especially over matters concerning the relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union. Brexit has been the topic that motivated my voting behaviour since I was old enough to vote.

It is the BBC and Sky news for me until this election is decided, nothing else is allowed where I work. I hope that the troubles anticipated by both sides do not occur. The United States cannot afford to have its democracy decided by the Supreme Court again. The People vote and the People should decide.

My wife,who is a citizen of the United States, has not voted, her attitude is ‘A plague on both your houses’.!

 

[TastySuckToy]

Hoping for a repeat!

 

[MiaBabe23]

That's a good guide, and I see that have Daily Mail aligned with the middle more or less, and that middle of the road positioning is why I like using them. They don't go hard left or right and their news is generally fairly reliable and with minimal bias.

But the accuracy for sources like the Mail etc may relate to celebrity goss - when it comes to politics, it’s misinformation, disinformation and selective presentation
Choosing to keep quoting them is kinda reducing the power of your ‘news only’ agenda for this thread

 

[MiaBabe23]

Thank you providing the Harvard chart it is an excellent and informative production.

You are correct that the Daily Mail is not impartial but it provides coverage that meets my bias especially over matters concerning the relationship between the United Kingdom and the European Union. Brexit has been the topic that motivated my voting behaviour since I was old enough to vote.

It is the BBC and Sky news for me until this election is decided, nothing else is allowed where I work. I hope that the troubles anticipated by both sides do not occur. The United States cannot afford to have its democracy decided by the Supreme Court again. The People vote and the People should decide.

My wife,who is a citizen of the United States, has not voted, her attitude is ‘A plague on both your houses’.!

Well at least you’re aware of your bias, and acknowledge it
I recommend comparing AP’s coverage if you can get it; I think the two sources you mention are reasonably similar, but not impartial in the way AP is, (one being under Murdoch’s control)
Your wife thinks that? Is she a Republican who sees the even worse damage that Trump would do a second time round?

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Just some food for thought:

Why Election Results Might Take Days

In two swing states—Pennsylvania and Wisconsin—election workers are prohibited by state law from processing absentee and mail-in ballots until Election Day. More than 2 million voters in Pennsylvania have requested mail-in ballots this year, and more than 80 percent have already been returned. In other states, those returned ballots would be getting opened, verified, and counted already—and those totals would be quickly reported once the polls closed. In Pennsylvania, however, that won't happen.

The same thing is true in Wisconsin, where about 500,000 mail-in ballots have been requested. If either state's presidential election is close, which seems likely, it will likely be impossible to declare a winner on Tuesday. And if either state is critical to determining the overall winner, which also seems possible, the outcome of the election may remain uncertain for several days.

Pennsylvania Secretary of State Al Schmidt, a Republican, told NPR two weeks ago that it is unlikely that a winner will be determined before the clock strikes midnight on Election Day.
Eric Boehm, Reason.com (Libertarian)

https://reason.com/2024/11/04/why-results-from-some-swing-states-could-take-days/



I'll reiterate, I'm a Libertarian and I think that it will not be close, the business demands drama to sell ads...

It’s amazing that we managed to count and get the results in late into the evening or early morn before ‘00…

What was it about the millennia that made counting impossible now>?

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Breaking. Two heavily Republican Counties Voting machines have “gone down”….

President Trump carried Cambria Cty by over 68%…

The good news is they get to vote with a paper ballot. Much safer I think we’d all agree. I’d be nice if we could just request that from the start.

 

[south7eventh]

Well at least you’re aware of your bias, and acknowledge it
I recommend comparing AP’s coverage if you can get it; I think the two sources you mention are reasonably similar, but not impartial in the way AP is, (one being under Murdoch’s control)
Your wife thinks that? Is she a Republican who sees the even worse damage that Trump would do a second time round?

My wife is from Iowa and is a Cyclone who graduated from Iowa State University. She was exhausted by all the attention on the politics of her state, before the Primary Season began, by the time she was in her early twenties. I have never known her to be anything but neutral but she has been teased by her father who voted for Goldwater in 1964.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Election officials have confirmed widespread problems with voting machines and software on Election Day in two heavily Republican counties in the critical swing state of Pennsylvania. Officials said there were issues with scanning ballots in Cambria and Bedford counties, which former President Donald Trump won four years ago with 68% and 83% of the vote, respectively.

A similar issue is occurring in Bedford County, with officials saying they are quickly working on fixing the machines. The ballots in the county will remain in a secured lock box until they can be counted, according to the local Election Board. Several other counties in the state, including Blair, Somerset and Clearfield are allegedly down, but those reports have yet to be verified.

Why is anyone surprised this is happening only in Republican Counties. Election Fraud kicking in again....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-republican-pennsylvania-counties/ar-AA1tymaa