Emotional discipline

[Joe Wordsworth]

thats why you cant figure out how it works

Geez. Its really only my first day on the boards, and I hate to break an etiquette about debate, but... essentially you're saying I can't figure it out because...?

Because I can't think of physical things that are unobservable?

Logically speaking (unfortunately, as logic is part of my profession and passion, I resort to it often), that a thing is physical (that it exists in a physical and not, say, spiritual or metaphysical way), means that it is an observable thing. As such, your somewhat vague reference to there being physical things that can't be observed (and those things playing a part in the conditional orgasm) is akin to saying "there are squares that are round... and that's why skyscrapers get built".

Its not exactly an answer.

Personally, I /am/ curious as to how its all done. But vaguery doesn't bring me any closer to understanding. And saying that I am unable to concieve of impossible things is to blame doesn't actually make any rational sense, either.

I am serious, though... educate me.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Geez. Its really only my first day on the boards, and I hate to break an etiquette about debate, but... essentially you're saying I can't figure it out because...?

Because I can't think of physical things that are unobservable?

Logically speaking (unfortunately, as logic is part of my profession and passion, I resort to it often), that a thing is physical (that it exists in a physical and not, say, spiritual or metaphysical way), means that it is an observable thing. As such, your somewhat vague reference to there being physical things that can't be observed (and those things playing a part in the conditional orgasm) is akin to saying "there are squares that are round... and that's why skyscrapers get built".

Its not exactly an answer.

Personally, I /am/ curious as to how its all done. But vaguery doesn't bring me any closer to understanding. And saying that I am unable to concieve of impossible things is to blame doesn't actually make any rational sense, either.

I am serious, though... educate me.

 

[TNRkitect2b]

My slave is planning on giving a detailed explanation of how this is possible. I just know that it work via emperical evidence. If you can wait until this evening, you should have an explanation.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Here we go....bump for continuing the discussion.

Catalina

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

I've found that making her cry is a lot more effective at establishing the D/s than just physically hurting her.

 

[Shallkneel4u]

they practice what they call behavior modification, which in essence is also emotional disipline, where i have to control my urges to grope, fondle, or basically do what any male would do in a vanillia relationship. my life is now lived by their rules, and my behavior has to be controlled.

Hello:

Reading this thread, and this seemed like as good a place as any to jump in to this thread. Not sure that I would agree with the accessment that Behavior Modification is the same as emotional disciplend. One can be trained to follow a basic set of rules, or abide by a certain set of behaviors while the emotions of self remain unchanged.

As a submissive, think sometimes what I find disconcerting is all the focus on disciplend and punishment. It would be hoped that two people in a relationship of trust and honesty would reach a point where neither was necessary? Additionally, where in this thread is mirrored discussion of emotional healing? Most emotional problems that people tend to exhibit relate back to troubled events in their past life, and can one truly effect change in the emotions without (in a loving, caring way) addressing the root causes which cause that emotion to be triggered?

Does emotional disciplend merely push and bury the root problem deeper into the subconcious mind, thus causing more problems than it corrects? For instance, jealousy is an emotion that most Dom/mes have no patience for, and so it seems it would be advantagous to reach back to locate the root causes that cause the submissive to be jealous, since most times that emotion is rooted in ones own lack of self esteem. Displend might see the submissive bury or hide their jealousy, but it does not actually cure it. Curing it I would think requires the time and patience, love, nuture and trust which would allow the submissive to reveal events in their past that led them to a point where their own insecurities became the seeds which spouted the emotion of jealousy....or, am I simply crazy as a loon here?

 

[s'lara]

Can be a bit dicey imposing emotional discipline. One can lose the ability to govern their emotions and if left to their own devices, could find themselves at a disadvantage. That is if the emotional discipline is all encompassing and beyond limiting impulse actions driven by emotions. Behavioral modification doesn't necessarily fit in the emotional control/discipline category.

There can be some merit in emotional discipline where a negative, emotional pattern exists. Self-destructive behavior, etc. could benefit from emotional discipline. Even then, it is best to put the sub/slave in contact with a professional therapist/psychologist who can work with the Dominant and provide guidance where inexperience might cause more damage.

lara