Female-Led Relationships

Another bump...

I watched romantic comedy Love and Leashes on NetFlix last month...

https://i.imgur.com/kswDtCY.jpg

Koreans Jung Ji-woo (Seohyun) and Jung Ji-hoo (Lee Jun-young) are office colleagues with similar names. One day Ji-woo accidentally opens Ji-hoo’s boxed order mistaking it for Her own. It reveals to Her Ji-hoo's submissive nature by virtue of the collar inside.

It turns out Ji-woo is subconsciously a dominant. Their meeting results in a contractual relationship to satisfy each other’s kinks.

https://i.imgur.com/4tQqYcA.jpg?1

It's a little like BDSM painting by numbers to begin with. Partly down to where it's filmed, and the intended audience which necessitates the movie's exploration of the dominant/submissive rhetoric for their benefit. However as the movie shifts into the second act, the characters delve deeper into other aspects of BDSM with more intent. By the final act it feels more tangible IMHO.

https://i.imgur.com/6bq98ES.gif

It's a fun movie, light at the start, but gaining more momentum (and darker themes) towards the end. The vanilla land (in Korea for the movie, but a metaphor for the world?) still a lot to learn about us... But simply put, we're not that different after all...
 
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Another bump...

I watched romantic comedy Love and Leashes on NetFlix last month...

https://i.imgur.com/kswDtCY.jpg

Koreans Jung Ji-woo (Seohyun) and Jung Ji-hoo (Lee Jun-young) are office colleagues with similar names. One day Ji-woo accidentally opens Ji-hoo’s boxed order mistaking it for Her own. It reveals to Her Ji-hoo's submissive nature by virtue of the collar inside.

It turns out Ji-woo is subconsciously a dominant. Their meeting results in a contractual relationship to satisfy each other’s BDSM kinks.

https://i.imgur.com/4tQqYcA.jpg?1

It's a little like BDSM painting by numbers to begin with. Partly down to where it's filmed, and the intended audience which is understandable as it's exploring the dominance/submission rhetoric for their benefit. However as the movie shifts into the second act, the characters delve deeper into other aspects of BDSM with more intent. By the final act it feels more tangible IMHO.

It's a fun movie, light at the start, but gaining more momentum (and darker themes) towards the end. The vanilla world (in Korea for the movie, but a metaphor for the world?) still a lot to learn about us... But simply put, we're not that different after all...


I saw the thumbnail, but didn't watch. May have to search again this weekend.
 
I feel this is the best male audience to pose a question to.

Would a female led relationship appeal to you and, if so, what would it look like? I realize there are many variances to this particular theme and the 2 people involved can make it whatever they choose, but are there key components that would draw you to this particular dynamic?

My question extends beyond the sexual component, of course. Being a strong woman with a slightly "sub" man is nothing new of course...but I am not speaking of a D/s type interaction. Ordering someone around and expecting your bidding to be done without question isn't my thing. I prefer a much more cerebral, gentle dynamic where my strength isn't used to wield punishment, moreso guidance and nurturing.

Any of you out there currently enjoying such a dynamic? Hoping to or actively searching for such a thing? Would love to discuss the ins and outs and get a real life feel of how this manifests in your day-to-day lives.

As always, PM's are not only welcome, but encouraged :rose:
I have always fantasized about being controlled by a Dominatrix, but it's never happened YET !
 
Another bump... Last year (I'm late to the party) Kevin Smith created a continuation of the classic 80's kids cartoon show for Netflix called Masters of the Universe Revelation (12)...

https://i.imgur.com/KI8dc3y.jpg?1

I know, but please bear with me...

What makes this stand out from other kids shows, is it's remarkable respect of Leading Female characters. He-man and Skeletor are not front and centre as they were in the past (although they do inevitably get some screen time). Instead, Teela voiced by Sarah Michelle Gellar, and Evil-Lyn voiced by Lena Headey share most of the screen time. All the other cast members interact with these characters in meaningful ways, not as a device justifying their inclusion in the show, but rather integral to plot. They're powerful Women relevant to the show, but in ways that also resonate with kids watching... And thoughtful too, with many themes such as trust, and a sense of belonging.

I wouldn't recommend the show for much younger than twelve, as a few scenes of conflict are pretty graphic, and would you believe one scene which was somewhat sexual(?). But otherwise most of the time it's kept to a minimum, and predictably it's cheesy in places.

I've watched quite a lot of content promoting Female characters over the past few years. But surprisingly not all of it is done with such panache, and tight writing. While yes, Teela and Evil-Lyn feature heavily, it's never to detriment of other characters. The male characters are not diminished, or tooled down just so they can look great (although they are impressive!), but moreover every character has a place, and time to shine...
 
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More like a smash than another bump...

A few days ago, Marvel released a trailer for their upcoming series on Disney +...

https://i.imgur.com/8c9jIb5.png?1

I've long been a comics fan of Marvel well before the inception of the MCU. But whats special about the She-Hulk is how relatable/relevant She is, and this trailer really underlines Her Female Leading personality...

It's my belief many Women who are neither Marvel fans or Disney + subscribers will sign up short term, just to watch this show. And who would blame them? Marvel Studios said of this phase, it was all about representation. And after several failed attempts to represent contemporary Women, I think they've finally got it right!


I can't wait for August 17...

By the way, the rumour is the visual effects of She-Hulk are incomplete. Marvel often rushes posting it's trailers online due to upcoming meetings and investor pressure. Although by the time the show is available to stream, the CGI should be complete...
 
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The series She-Hulk sounds interesting. I hope it has good writing. I do find strong women appealing but in my case, it is more of internal strength I am referring to vs physical. Some of your posts on CFNM show smaller women who could be easily overpowered by the men they are dominating. Those are great scenes because it shows her internal power.
ES
 
The series She-Hulk sounds interesting. I hope it has good writing. I do find strong women appealing but in my case, it is more of internal strength I am referring to vs physical. Some of your posts on CFNM show smaller women who could be easily overpowered by the men they are dominating. Those are great scenes because it shows her internal power.
ES

Agreed. While the dictionary definition of domination involves exercising power over another with or without their consent, the fetish application of the word implies consent. When I dominate a man there may be some performative aspects of our interaction that imply physical control (spanking, leashing, etc.) but the reality is that he is submitting willingly. Regardless of appearances he submits to me because he wants to because I lead him with my mind. The physical manifestations of domination don't actually compel submission, but rather contribute to his state of mind.
 
Another bump...

I watched romantic comedy Love and Leashes on NetFlix last month...

https://i.imgur.com/kswDtCY.jpg

Koreans Jung Ji-woo (Seohyun) and Jung Ji-hoo (Lee Jun-young) are office colleagues with similar names. One day Ji-woo accidentally opens Ji-hoo’s boxed order mistaking it for Her own. It reveals to Her Ji-hoo's submissive nature by virtue of the collar inside.

It turns out Ji-woo is subconsciously a dominant. Their meeting results in a contractual relationship to satisfy each other’s kinks.

https://i.imgur.com/4tQqYcA.jpg?1

It's a little like BDSM painting by numbers to begin with. Partly down to where it's filmed, and the intended audience which necessitates the movie's exploration of the dominant/submissive rhetoric for their benefit. However as the movie shifts into the second act, the characters delve deeper into other aspects of BDSM with more intent. By the final act it feels more tangible IMHO.

https://i.imgur.com/6bq98ES.gif

It's a fun movie, light at the start, but gaining more momentum (and darker themes) towards the end. The vanilla land (in Korea for the movie, but a metaphor for the world?) still a lot to learn about us... But simply put, we're not that different after all...
I stumbled across this movie too...it's great and very entertaining.
 
The series She-Hulk sounds interesting. I hope it has good writing. I do find strong women appealing but in my case, it is more of internal strength I am referring to vs physical. Some of your posts on CFNM show smaller women who could be easily overpowered by the men they are dominating. Those are great scenes because it shows her internal power.
ES

Hey eroticspank... I'd echo the same about the writing. As always, Marvel's trailers always look well put together. But they too suffer from the same challenges NetFlix had with Marvel's properties a few years ago. First two or three episodes are great, then the quality would tail off a bit before the finale.

All the Marvel shows on Disney + are just six episodes (I think), and you'd expect the writing would be tighter. It's not always, but that because their output is ludicrous. Disney put tremendous pressure on Kevin Feige with streaming Marvel series, and it does show from time to time.

Ultimately I really hope the She-Hulk series shines. There isn't another Female Leading character like Her in the Marvel Universe, so they ought to get it right!
 
Agreed. While the dictionary definition of domination involves exercising power over another with or without their consent, the fetish application of the word implies consent. When I dominate a man there may be some performative aspects of our interaction that imply physical control (spanking, leashing, etc.) but the reality is that he is submitting willingly. Regardless of appearances he submits to me because he wants to because I lead him with my mind. The physical manifestations of domination don't actually compel submission, but rather contribute to his state of mind.

Dear policywank,

I am hoping that was one of the reason's Marvel decided to reject a bulkier She-Hulk (as She is depicted sometimes in comics)... A Woman's strength comes from within, She's durable, intelligent and wise (simply put). As She-Hulk is not raging, or out of control, it's my belief that should merit story lines with those aforementioned qualities. But She is a Hulk after all, so She will smash where appropriate...

And furthermore, at the end of the trailer when She's carrying the guy, he is a willing participant. I don't necessarily believe Marvel will lean into this form of submission too much. But it does echo, albeit in part, your wonderful leadership style policywank...:rose:
 
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How low can you go?

I've always known some, not all Women seek to dominate a submissive man. And to that end, I've assumed during my journey in my local kink scene, it should be a Mistress/Dominant Woman I seek to play with. By enlarge, though I've played a little, I've not felt connected to the Woman in question.

Why should that matter? I believe life's too short. So what matters to me is the quality of the people I befriend, and the connections I make. While I have a diverse group of friends with whom I feel somewhat a connection, I cannot say the same of the Mistresses/Dominant Women I know.

I spent an enormous amount of time pontificating, thinking it must be them not I. I know I'm not perfect, not by a long shot, but I'm generally liked in the community. So I spent almost seven of my eight months thinking this way. Then She came along...

Not a Mistress or Dominant Woman... A Female submissive. At our first meeting, She was friendly, we talked about trampling which She had done before, and was enthusiastic we should stay in touch. She's not very technical, so Her dominant partner manages their shared account. As such we've communicated a little bit that way, but nothing special.

So as the following month transpired, I didn't really give Her much more thought. Yes, She was stunning, but having met many gorgeous Women along the way, I could never truly connect with them. I was getting used to feeling that way... I know, shoot me...

Last Sunday, I saw Her again, although it wasn't planned. Cut a long story short, we got on so well, it was insane!... She lives a mostly submissive life, but on odd/rare occasions She will top. She was giving off quite a lot of masterful vibes, in fact so much, I told Her I felt compelled to sit on the floor and continue chatting, She was that incredible... She disappeared for a hot minute (I thought She went to the restroom), came back having asked Her dominant partner if it was OK for Her to top for me. She was happy to report he was very supportive and said "Yes".

Apparently Her next three months are really important/stressful. But She really wants this friendship to work. I do too, and I explained to Her I'm not in a hurry to rush. I messaged him the other day, thanking him for allowing Her to top for me. And obviously if during this time I see them again, I'll endeavour to make better use of my time when She's available.

There's no knowing when that will be, that's the nature of this arrangement. Although I appreciate at the time it was a really significant moment when She wanted to top for me. For both of us actually, especially as I didn't ask. She just knew I was so submissive in Her presence, She'd be able to lead me with relative ease.

As you can appreciate, I really hope this works out. But I'm doing my best to keep both of my feet firmly planted on terra firma in case it does not... However, I am looking forward to seeing Her again whenever that is...🥀
 
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Three months later...

Though She acknowledged me in the club having spotted Her, She made no effort to meet me. So having noticed She, Her dominant partner and a Female submissive were eating at a table, I plated up some vegetables to eat, and asked if I could join them. They seemed OK for me to do so.

The energy was different as She was sat holding hands with Her dominant partner, while he was engaged in conversation with the Female submissive to his other side. It became clear to me retrospectively, it was more likely they were there for Her, rather than me. My being a footnote to the main reason it would seem.

Apparently we're still be on the same page which is great. It turns out She had an important job promotion, hence the three months hiatus. That puzzled me, and I wondered why it required Her absence from the community for so long, but each to their own.

She apologized for not being communicative during that period, and said She'd do better moving forward having got to knowing me more. She did talk about exchanging mobile numbers too, but that didn't happen as I could tell She wasn't quite ready for that, having initially said She usually waits a little longer to do so.

However, our connection was still there. Eventually I asked when I'd see Her again. She said She and a friend were going to an event the following Sunday, and I was welcome to come along if I'd like to.

But damn it, having already committed to another event at the end of the month, my attending the following Sunday would make it three events this month. So if I were single, that'd be great! However as I'm not, it would mean less time with my family on weekends, and that's not great. I am expected to help out with service at that other event, and I didn't want to let the Crew down. It simply slipped my mind to mention this to Her at the time.

So to that end, as well as messaging the above, I told Her I'm only attending one event both in November and December. So I asked Her if She'd reconsider me for another event during one or even both of those months, that won't coincide with the other events I'm attending.

Despite what She said when we met, what was abundantly clear was Her lack of priority with keeping in touch. Three months is a long time, and I kept messaging during this period. I didn't want either of them thinking I'd lost interest. Though I sent the message a few days ago, my gut instinct tells me not to hold my breath.

I admit, I could've attended Her event and enjoyed it, but in the process I would hurt either my family at home, or my friends at my local club. So perhaps it's whether She appreciates all that, and we're still good to meet again in the future. But I can't help thinking the time between events can be so long, communication is so crucial for logistical reasons, let alone for sustaining a friendship. As She clearly shows no interest in any of this, may be this time I made the right choice after all.

However She and Her dominant partner do frequent my local fetish club, so chances are we'll meet again. This is familiar territory for me, as I've been here before. So many people in the community compartmentalize, and can detach having returned to normal life. So I do understand Her. Therefore despite Her flaws (heck I have a fair few myself), I know we could still get along, and even play, as long as I accept Her for who She is... 🥀
 
For me - I'd be willing to be 100% female-led in my marriage if it came with the dropping of expectations of providing, making decisions, and if it came with her cuckolding me with a permanent live-in man (my current "would do it if I could" fantasy revolves around her brother).

1. I wouldn't want to be bothered with having to make any decisions. I'd want her to lead exclusively and just tell me what will happen. I'd take care chores and things in the home, and would ask for some free time with friends in order keep a healthy social life. Other than that, every logistical decision would be hers to make and order me to do.

2. I wouldn't want to provide - she'd have to do it. I'd take care of the home.

3. I couldn't really follow her if she wasn't cuckolding me. I have to too much masculine energy and would resist way too often to be able to be a truly female-led husband. There needs to be another male in the home on a permanent basis who I see actively pushing out my male-influence with his own stronger, larger, more powerful male influence. I'd need to actively have their sex life tower over mine, and actively see her enjoying sex and fucking without me, while I'm watching, not watching, when I'm home, not home.

When I know she has a man who is stronger, whose penis is larger, who is more dominant, and who satisfies her better than I ever could pounding her and making my influence near non-existent - then and only then would I be able to let her lead. I'd need my masculinity subdued by a stronger man who could order me around a little too, make me suck his cock, etc.

I can't think of a man I would ever trust with this kind of power though with the exception of my wife's older brother - even though they are not into incest at all, so this remains a fantasy for me.

But if LITERALLY TOMORROW, he showed up at our house and my wife told me the above is our arrangement for the next 40-50 years, I'd get on my knees and sign up in a heartbeat. I would love to let go of the responsibilities of providing and leading my house in exchange for submitting to both of them sexually and in every other way. I'd even be willing to give him my ass when his sister/my wife is on her period as a stand-in for her.

It's very interesting how some men can never truly be submissive to their women unless an alpha-male shows up and makes him. I'd need to perform acts of submission though so I know my place. Drinking her brother's cum out of my wife's pussy, getting ass-fucked by him, sucking his cock while it is coated with her juices, laying outside a locked bedroom door in a sleeping bag hearing them fuck - these things would make it IMPOSSIBLE for me to ever challenge their authority in the home, and would truly make me the submissive that is inside waiting to come out.
 
Three months later...

Though She acknowledged me in the club having spotted Her, She made no effort to meet me. So having noticed She, Her dominant partner and a Female submissive were eating at a table, I plated up some vegetables to eat, and asked if I could join them. They seemed OK for me to do so.

The energy was different as She was sat holding hands with Her dominant partner, while he was engaged in conversation with the Female submissive to his other side. It became clear to me retrospectively, it was more likely they were there for Her, rather than me. My being a footnote to the main reason it would seem.

Apparently we're still be on the same page which is great. It turns out She had an important job promotion, hence the three months hiatus. That puzzled me, and I wondered why it required Her absence from the community for so long, but each to their own.

She apologized for not being communicative during that period, and said She'd do better moving forward having got to knowing me more. She did talk about exchanging mobile numbers too, but that didn't happen as I could tell She wasn't quite ready for that, having initially said She usually waits a little longer to do so.

However, our connection was still there. Eventually I asked when I'd see Her again. She said She and a friend were going to an event the following Sunday, and I was welcome to come along if I'd like to.

But damn it, having already committed to another event at the end of the month, my attending the following Sunday would make it three events this month. So if I were single, that'd be great! However as I'm not, it would mean less time with my family on weekends, and that's not great. I am expected to help out with service at that other event, and I didn't want to let the Crew down. It simply slipped my mind to mention this to Her at the time.

So to that end, as well as messaging the above, I told Her I'm only attending one event both in November and December. So I asked Her if She'd reconsider me for another event during one or even both of those months, that won't coincide with the other events I'm attending.

Despite what She said when we met, what was abundantly clear was Her lack of priority with keeping in touch. Three months is a long time, and I kept messaging during this period. I didn't want either of them thinking I'd lost interest. Though I sent the message a few days ago, my gut instinct tells me not to hold my breath.

I admit, I could've attended Her event and enjoyed it, but in the process I would hurt either my family at home, or my friends at my local club. So perhaps it's whether She appreciates all that, and we're still good to meet again in the future. But I can't help thinking the time between events can be so long, communication is so crucial for logistical reasons, let alone for sustaining a friendship. As She clearly shows no interest in any of this, may be this time I made the right choice after all.

However She and Her dominant partner do frequent my local fetish club, so chances are we'll meet again. This is familiar territory for me, as I've been here before. So many people in the community compartmentalize, and can detach having returned to normal life. So I do understand Her. Therefore despite Her flaws (heck I have a fair few myself), I know we could still get along, and even play, as long as I accept Her for who She is... 🥀
To me communication is a big part of any relationship. Be it friends or something more.
I’m rather old school. Some might say cold blooded.
I go with the rule of 3. If I reach out to someone 3 times. If they don’t send a text or something. I’m done. I’ve stretched that at times might be 5-6 times. But the not communicating yeah. I’m done.
Before anyone says… oh but maybe they’re busy.
BS. How long does it take to send a text.. hey I’ve not had a chance to talk. Been really busy.
That takes mere seconds.
 
To me communication is a big part of any relationship. Be it friends or something more.
I’m rather old school. Some might say cold blooded.
I go with the rule of 3. If I reach out to someone 3 times. If they don’t send a text or something. I’m done. I’ve stretched that at times might be 5-6 times. But the not communicating yeah. I’m done.
Before anyone says… oh but maybe they’re busy.
BS. How long does it take to send a text.. hey I’ve not had a chance to talk. Been really busy.
That takes mere seconds.

Hey LittleSwitchy...

Thanks for your comment.

I know it's not everyone's cup of tea. I've had close friends say the exact same things you've said of this situation. I'm not criticizing you or them, but understand my skew is different.

People compartmentalize for very good reasons to them, it's a very personal preference. In this case, Her compartmentalization includes myself and any communications with me outside the club. Like I've said before, this is necessitated by Her occupation which clearly is extremely important to Her.

We will meet again. It's a given. And on that day, She'll be on form as She always enjoys Her time at the club. She may apologize again, or may not I don't know, but I won't be looking for it. You see, I'm not going to criticize a leopard for it's spots. That's just the way She deals with Her life.

I'm not saying it's right She doesn't communicate, just that I understand why. When you know this of someone, it's really a question of your reaction when seeing them again. I choose not to be emotionally disgruntled, as I do see the value in knowing Her (though generally I do my best to treat all Women respectfully irrespective). Only time will tell, whether I continue to be subject of Her compartmentalization, or She shifts the association me outside of that, thus treating me with more priority.

I don't know how long that would take. It could perhaps happen when we exchange mobile numbers, who knows? But I'll soldier on. I have other friends, and possibly another friend to play with, so it's alright...
 
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Oh... About that other friend...

She agreed to be my Top! I'm tempering my expectations, as my new Top and I are having our first play session this weekend! She's adorable, and very outspoken which I love. She's hotter than the centre of the sun, but keeps it real. She's not a Foot Girl, which initially disappointed me, then I immediately checked myself...

Though She's not a Dominant Woman, it's still all about Her! She knows what's within my boundaries, and what my hard limits are. She can cherry pick from what intersects Her boundaries and my own if She prefers, or softly challenge my boundaries with other forms of impact I've yet to consider. I've come to appreciate boundaries ought not be made from bricks and mortar, but be more flexible within reason. Thanks for that line of thinking policywank... 🙇‍♂️

I am tempering my expectations! She'll be clothed, and I'll be naked and wearing a cage. So quite frankly, I'll be getting a huge kink satiated from the get go! I'd be crass to yearn more. It's incredible She's agreed to meet me this way, dammit!

She really liked I purchased essential oils, and a carrier (I've used essential oils before). I want Her to feel pampered, and relaxed. I also want to ensure She has fun when impacting upon me (this is Her desire not my own, as I'm drawn to pleasing Her), or chatting. Overall, I would really like Her to bounce out of our session on a high. To feel happy, content, and satiated having been a Top. And certainty feel She'd like to see me again.

My Wife knows whats going on, and still supports me. She continues to be stellar, as She too has benefits from our arrangement. That's only fair, right?
 
Well? Did it happen?

My Top and I had our first play session earlier this month. It was brilliant, and I couldn't believe how much I'd enjoy it, though I'm not a masochist (more on that later). She was incredible. And despite at times living a submissive lifestyle with Her fiancee at home, She was very masterful in session. I adored Her!

I had my cage on, and stripped in front of Her (Miss kept Her clothes on), and I absolutely, positively loved it! She was amazed as to how chilled I was, but to be honest I've been dreaming of doing something like this for a very long time.

It was all about Miss, and as She is a sadomasochist, it was Her desire to impact upon me. I'm more than OK with that, as I love empowering Women. And it was this very thing that powered me through the session. I caught a glimpse of Her in a side mirror, and She looked so powerful, and so masterful. Then Miss told me off a little and said "Focus! Face forward"... I must admit, though Miss is not my Wife, it was a great feeling (liberating to know/realize my place) telling Her I'll wear my cage for the rest of the event as a sign of respect to Her. Miss was willing to key hold in Her bra, but we got distracted as other people wanted to use the room.

Miss has provisionally agreed to play with me again at the next month's event. But as it was the case previously, it really depends how She feels on the day. As we've gotten to know each other rather well, of the next event, She's told me She'd like Her boots waxed and polished. I respect this may sound like a chore to some of you, but it floats my boat, as meanwhile I'd also be sat naked at Her feet.

This was my first play session, almost a year to the day, when I became a part of the local kink community. Miss is encouraging me to expand my social circles, in order to increase my odds of finding other Women to play with. It's going to be tough, as it takes me a long time to feel I can trust someone.

I'm literally counting the days until Miss and I possibly play again next month. I am so stoked, I cannot wait...
 
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