For those who assume supporting a Trump presidency over a Biden one means being a MAGA Trumper....

[JohnEngelman]

The moment you erase the Divine and then reinterpret the Divine Book through a humanist worldview. It is not dealing honestly with the text or claims because you aren't taking the text at fac e value and judging it on that. You are judging based on your opinions ABOUT the text you have barely read.

Genesis 1:1 says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

When did this happen? My copy of the Scofield Reference Bible (which I have read from cover to cover, by the way) says the beginning was B.C. 4004. If this is true, the light from most of the stars one can see on a cloudless night began coming to earth before the universe existed.

By the way, have you read the entire Bible, including the Apocrypha, like I have?

 

[JohnEngelman]

They actually called democracy Mobocracy (their term) and considered it toxic and dangerous to any free society.

Can you quote one of them using the word "Mobocracy." If so, quote the Founder and where he wrote that.

 

[JohnEngelman]

Every one of those statements are false and long disproven. Every culture on the planet has a version of the flood story, most of them global, and many of them, utterly disconnected from each other, mention a Noah or some version of him. The United Kingdom of Israel is recorded in several nations' records. There is tons of evidence of Israel in Egypt (posted one of the links for that data in an earlier claim you made to that effect). There were SEVERAL Herods. That was a title, not a name. And there is in fact very solid evidence and record of that census in question. And the Bible, while not being scientific, is 100% accurate in what it says about science, and there is NOT ONE internal contradiction.

The earliest Greek writers whose writings have come down to us were Homer and Hesiod. Both wrote in roughly the eighth century B.C. Homer wrote the Iliad and the Odyssey. Hesiod wrote the Theogony and Works and Days. I have read these four in several English translations. Neither of them mentions a flood. To the bet of my knowledge no ancient Roman writer mentions a flood. Do you know of any?

The oldest work of Chinese literature is The Book of Songs. Confucious quotes it a few times in his Analects. The Book of Songs makes no mention of a flood.

The oldest Japanese writings are The Kojiki and Nihongi. They make no mention of a flood.

 

[Politruk]

Every one of those statements are false and long disproven. Every culture on the planet has a version of the flood story, most of them global, and many of them, utterly disconnected from each other, mention a Noah or some version of him. The United Kingdom of Israel is recorded in several nations' records. There is tons of evidence of Israel in Egypt (posted one of the links for that data in an earlier claim you made to that effect). There were SEVERAL Herods. That was a title, not a name. And there is in fact very solid evidence and record of that census in question. And the Bible, while not being scientific, is 100% accurate in what it says about science, and there is NOT ONE internal contradiction.

Many cultures have flood myths because many regions have floods, but there is no possibility whatsoever that a global flood ever happened at any time that our species has existed.

The Israelites were never in Egypt and there was never a united kingdom.

Herod was a name, not a title -- there were several Herods because it was a family name. The Herod named in the story of the Massacre of the Innocents very definitely was ten years dead when the first Roman census of Judea was taken.

There are also scientific errors and internal contradictions.

 

[Politruk]

Can you quote one of them using the word "Mobocracy." If so, quote the Founder and where he wrote that.

The FFs more likely would have used the word "ochlocracy." Means the same, but it's better Greek.

 

[Politruk]

The earliest Greek writers whose writings have come down to us were Homer and Hesiod. Both wrote in roughly the eighth century B.C. Homer wrote the Iliad and the Odyssey. Hesiod wrote the Theogony and Works and Days. I have read these four in several English translations. Neither of them mentions a flood. To the bet of my knowledge no ancient Roman writer mentions a flood. Do you know of any?

Ovid does mention Deucalion -- but, as with everything else in the Metamorphoses, he was only rendering a Greek story into Latin verse.

 

[Politruk]

If I don't have financial investment in your company, should I be allowed to vote in your board meetings to vote as a consumer on your company practices?

Well, come to think of it . . .