he won't touch these numbers....
I have no pro-Putin views. Only the truth matters. I do not support an American ground war in Europe and I don't support an American ground war in the Middle East either. We aren't ready for it and we can't afford it.
Lol...bullshit.
Where have I ever said I wanted him to win? Show me. All I have done is point out the lies being fed to the American people by a war-mongering press and deep state and the fantasy of winning a ground war with the biggest nuclear power in Europe. All we've done is facilitate the destruction of Ukraine as a functioning state.
NATO is not divided on Ukraine.
NATO Divided: Global Perspectives on the Vilnius Summit
Of course when you focus on amount rather than allocations per GDP, you would be an idiotNATO Divided: Global Perspectives on the Vilnius Summit
Global Memo by PISM, IAI, and SVOP
Jul 14, 2023
https://www.cfr.org/councilofcouncils/global-memos/nato-divided-global-perspectives-vilnius-summit
ARTICLES
The Divide Within NATO
It has become a truism that the Ukraine War has created a NATO more united and, with the addition of Finland and impending addition of Sweden, more militarily capable than ever.
Thursday, May 18, 2023 2 min readBy: Seth Cropsey
"Through a combination of Ukrainian strategic skill and resolve, Western—primarily American—military aid, and Russian failures, Putin’s gambit has morphed into a war for imperial survival, a war directly against NATO. Yet now, just as in February 2022, the Western European powers show no desire to accelerate or expand military assistance to Ukraine. Nor have the Western European powers, particularly Germany given its vaunted manufacturing capacity, expanded their defense industrial production, despite Olaf Scholz’s much-trumpeted Zeitenwende. Germany still stalls, waffling over whether to permit other countries to transfer German-made Leopard tanks to Ukraine—as of this writing, Germany may shift policy, but only after months of cajoling and concerted NATO-wide pressure. The overwhelming majority of military assistance to Ukraine comes from the United States. And even that has been hesitant, sporadic, and more enthusiastic in word than deed. But even the poorer Eastern European NATO powers, including the Baltics and Poland, have provided proportionally and, in some metrics, absolutely more capabilities to Ukraine than France and Germany.?
Do read the rest of the article here: https://www.hoover.org/research/divide-within-nato
JANUARY 17, 2023
Understanding Germany’s half-hearted support of Ukraine
KARL-PETER SCHWARZ
Pro-Russian views are popular in former East Germany as a gulf remains between Germans and their eastern neighbors over how to respond to the Kremlin threat.
https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/germany-russia-ukraine/
Why Germany is struggling to stomach the idea of sending tanks to Ukraine
Analysis by Luke McGee, CNN
7 minute read
Updated 7:58 AM EST, Sat January 21, 2023
Scholz has insisted that any such plan would need to be fully coordinated with the whole of the Western alliance, and German officials have indicated they won’t approve the transfer of Leopards unless the US also agrees to send some of its tanks to Kyiv.
On Friday, a key meeting of Western allies in Germany broke up without a wider agreement on sending tanks to Ukraine, after the country’s new defense minister Boris Pistorius said no decision had yet been made by his government.
Pistorius rebuffed claims that Germany has been “standing in the way” of a “united coalition” of countries in favor of the plan. “There are good reasons for the delivery and there are good reasons against it … all the pros and cons have to be weighed very carefully, and that assessment is explicitly shared by many allies,” he added.
Germany’s decision to dig in on sending tanks will likely go down badly with its allies, both in the immediate and long-term.
Whole article here: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/21/europe/germany-tanks-ukraine-intl/index.html
You really need to be better informed on the issue.
https://www.hoover.org/profiles/seth-cropsey
LMFAO, your link proves everything II74 said. How fucking stupid are you really??? OMFG
Not only that, they are also out of date, and even state NATO is not divided, but actually more cohesive since the Russian invasion....
it's always the same old tap dance with wrongway.
Go ahead nd live in ignorance. Let me know when Ukraine prevails.
Ukraine has a right to defend itself against the invaders. They should not capitulate to the aggressors.
I never said they didn't have a right to defend themselves, ever. I have said or implied that at this point they have no choice but to negotiate or be defeated. In my opinion, they are now past that point where they might have negotiated an agreement that leaves them with a semblance of national dignity. I know you don't agree, but at this point, Russia will dictate the terms of a ceasefire to Ukraine. This is Joe Biden's fault, make no mistake.
When did I say I wanted them to surrender? I've only stated the military facts on the ground in Ukraine. They have been strategically defeated on the field. Hundreds of thousands have been killed and wounded. It's all over but the shouting. The weapons we're providing are not going to affect the outcome. Only the politicians and political soldiers who are trying to save their own asses and reputations are saying any different. The Ukrainians will never recover from the disaster that has been inflicted on their population in their lifetimes. Almost 20 million have left the country never to return because there is nothing left to return to.
Your said a ceasefire would be made on Russia's terms. Russia invaded Ukraine. Surrender is the correct term for that.
Yes, that is not the same as a surrender. Because the Ukrainians were coaxed into not negotiating earlier in the war now that they have been decimated beyond repair, their negotiating position is much weaker and the Russians know it and could likely achieve a ceasefire on their terms. That is all I meant by what I said. The Ukrainians can fight to the last man if they choose, but in the end, they won't. They will negotiate.
It is the same thing as surrender. If Ukraine capitulates, that is surrendering
I'm supportive still.
Putin continues to appreciate your support
Putin doesn't have my support. I don't support funding corruption and wholesale slaughter as you do. We haven't done a thing except help slaughter hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, and lay waste in their country, in an impossible quest that leaves the eastern Russian-speaking part of Ukraine in the hands of a Russian force that is bigger in size and lethality and more of a threat to Europe than we've seen in 40 years. Good job.I'm supportive still.
Putin continues to appreciate your support
Sure he doesn't.
