For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Fuzzy1975]

Fuck off with the "boss" shit.

LOL he signs your pay cheques doesn't he? What else would you call him, besides comrade? No one else would post shit like you do, unless they were getting paid.

I told you this would happen.

You didn't tell anyone anything, you posted other peoples op-eds and opinion pieces, which are NOT YOUR WORDS>>>>lol

I can't help it if you have no education or geographical awareness in Europe.

Most Americans don't, but you seem to, so I assume it's because your education wasn't in the USA.

Putin has no desire to govern western Ukraine. He will no doubt insist on keeping Crimea, and the Donbas east of the Dnieper. He might go ahead and accept the status quo as it is today, or he may yet go after Kharkov and Odessa as they were in his mind traditionally Russian cities.

Ahn the bold, the little truth buried in all your bullshit....btw, how would you know "whats in his mind"?

The fact is, thanks to Joe Biden Putin would hold the upper hand in any negotiation going forward.

Putin's on borrowed time. His army's modern military equipment is decimated,he can't supply his troops with the most basic of equipment ( as documented by many thousands of drone video's or selfies from Russians), he can't manufacture enough munitions so he is buying from North Korea and China and Iran.Yes he has a near limitless draw down of combatants to enlist, but soon they will just be issued axes and pitchforks.

How long do you think Putin can keep artificially bolstering his economy, most economic experts give him till sometime near the end of 2024,maybe middle of 2025 at best, then the wheels fall off the cart.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fuck off with the "boss" shit. I told you this would happen. I can't help it if you have no education or geographical awareness in Europe. Putin has no desire to govern western Ukraine. He will no doubt insist on keeping Crimea, and the Donbas east of the Dnieper. He might go ahead and accept the status quo as it is today, or he may yet go after Kharkov and Odessa as they were in his mind traditionally Russian cities. The fact is, thanks to Joe Biden Putin would hold the upper hand in any negotiation going forward.

Thanks to Biden we have a damn good negotiating point. What are you smoking? I would really wants some and I would love to see when you said this would happen because I'm calling absolute bullshit on that. None of us expected this. NO ONE.

Besides that doesn't change the fact that your Boss hates democracy and so do you and so does the Right. I hate this conflict but I get that to the American Right it is an extension of our personal politics most notably J6.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You predicted this would be won by Russia in the first week.

I know you like to be "military expert" boy
...but you suck at this.

Not gonna lie, I predicted no more than twelve weeks. At this point I'm just searching for enough rags to get all this fucking egg off.

 

[Rightguide]

You predicted this would be won by Russia in the first week.

I know you like to be "military expert" boy
...but you suck at this.

Show me. I might have predicted the end of the war in week one, but I doubt I predicted the war would only last one week.

I'm right about most of everything. I was right about the fairytale of "Russian collusion" you literally worshipped at the feet of for years. The Mueller Investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, the FISA abuses, FBI corruption, that both impeachments would fail to bring down Trump. It goes on and on.

 

[Rightguide]

Thanks to Biden we have a damn good negotiating point. What are you smoking? I would really wants some and I would love to see when you said this would happen because I'm calling absolute bullshit on that. None of us expected this. NO ONE.

Besides that doesn't change the fact that your Boss hates democracy and so do you and so does the Right. I hate this conflict but I get that to the American Right it is an extension of our personal politics most notably J6.

Fuck off dipshit. Tell us in detail about that strong negotiating point.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Show me. I might have predicted the end of the war in week one, but I doubt I predicted the war would only last one week.

I'm right about most of everything. I was right about the fairytale of "Russian collusion" you literally worshipped at the feet of for years. The Mueller Investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, the FISA abuses, FBI corruption, that both impeachments would fail to bring down Trump. It goes on and on.

But you'd have to be daft not to believe in the Russian collusion after the Mueller Investigation. I forget Crossfire Hurricane tbh, there were no FISA abuses, no FBI corruption and nobody expected Republicans to put country before party and bring down Trump.

What is telling is the number of Republicans retiring and Chris Christie literally running as a spoiler just to drag votes from Trump. How fucked do you have to be for that to be your legacy? And I'm a strong believer that Paul Ryan never wanted to be speaker but someone bribed him and he did it for a bit saw Trump and what few morals he has wouldn't let him participate in the end of America.

 

[ll74]

Show me. I might have predicted the end of the war in week one, but I doubt I predicted the war would only last one week.

Lol

I'm right about most of everything. I was right about the fairytale of "Russian collusion" you literally worshipped at the feet of for years. The Mueller Investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, the FISA abuses, FBI corruption, that both impeachments would fail to bring down Trump. It goes on and on.

Lol...the narcissism is fun to watch....along with the ascription.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fuck off dipshit. Tell us in detail about that strong negotiating point.

Two new members of Nato is huge. Russia is being starved of resources and can barely supply their own troops at this point. Sure we're suffering high prices at the pump and grocery store to this but it's not helping them and collectively we can hold out a helluva lot longer than they can.

China has too many problems of its own to offer much in a conflict. Lets ignore their aging population is worse than ours (and ours sucks so that's saying something but I blame you fucking ignorant boomers on that) Lets talk about all the corporations jumping ship to India and Mexico which might take a while but they aren't ignorant they know how devastating this will be to their economy.

Which leaves you with Iran I guess. They have a good military. I don't think we could just roll them like we did Iraq. I think Saddam MOSTLY ruled out of fear but nobody liked him or his party. The Iranians would likely dig in and actually fight until it became a waste of resources not to mention a humanitarian disaster of the relics we would destroy trying to bomb them out. But they can't fight a two front war.

Russia's only leverage is the American Conservatives would rather be Commies than Democrats.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Lol

Lol...the narcissism is fun to watch....along with the ascription.

Hey! I'm a narcissist! I can still admit the times when I goofed. I spent four long years away from this promised land because I underestimated how evil our right is and how stupid our independents are.

 

[ll74]

Hey! I'm a narcissist! I can still admit the times when I goofed. I spent four long years away from this promised land because I underestimated how evil our right is and how stupid our independents are.

ReichGad continually ejaculates all over the forum with his delusions of military prowess.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Show me. I might have predicted the end of the war in week one, but I doubt I predicted the war would only last one week.

No you didn't predict it would last a week,but you did predict it would be over shortly....Since you were absent from the end of February 2022 until sometime in April 2022 it would have been hard for you to post any predictions....

I'm going to say it. This war is all but over, Ukraine has lost this war and no amount of new gear will change things. Joe Biden has failed. The Russians currently have 500,000-700,000 surrounding Ukraine, about 300,000 ready to invade. The Russians are able to launch 60,000 strikes a day in artillery, missiles, and air strikes to Ukraine's 10,000 a day. Ukraine is going to be destroyed. There's no way they can prevail against what they are facing. That's why there's no more hype, no news, no questions of the President by the press. NATO is about to implode over what is happening.

Note the above post is from April 25th 2022.

I'm right about most of everything.

No you were wrong about the above,nothing you said happened, shall I go grab some more of your failed predictions. You are lots of things wrongway, but being Kreskin isn't one of them...*chuckles*

 

[Fuzzy1975]

ReichGad continually ejaculates all over the forum with his delusions of military prowess.

You should grab that post of his, and reply with it to wrongway, since he keeps me on ignore most of the time. That way he will get to see his own embarrassment. Not that it matters, he's a paid shill anyhow.

 

[ll74]

You should grab that post of his, and reply with it to wrongway, since he keeps me on ignore most of the time. That way he will get to see his own embarrassment. Not that it matters, he's a paid shill anyhow.

He suffers from delusions of grandeur

 

[Fuzzy1975]

He suffers from delusions of grandeur

Yes he thinks he is pretty self impotent...and no that not spelled wrong.....*chuckles*

 

[ll74]

ReichGad will be so happy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721474959716045018

 

[Fuzzy1975]

There is much more on corruption. Read it for yourself. For all practical purposes Ukraine has lost this war.

Not yet they haven't you dumb fucking Russian shill.

 

[ll74]

Actually it was lost before it started. Anyone with a map should have been able to figure that out.

Buuuuutttt we moved a lotta product and that’s what we’re all about!

Yah, not talking to you. Hence why I quoted someone else.

 

[ll74]

You say something in a public forum and you never know who might chime in!

The interweb is funny like that!

How exciting for you

 

[TJX]

There are a few here who don't understand what the purpose of war is. They seem to think it is about territory or body count. If that were the case the United States wound have won in Viet Nam. The Soviets would have won in Afghanistan. Again, the United States would have won in Afghanistan. Territory gained and body count are matrix from a bygone era used to measure the progress of war. During WW2, despite the territory gained and lost, despite the horrific loss of life, it took the death of a leader and the use of atomic bombs to win the war.

The purpose of war is to destroy the enemies will to fight. Germany lost the will to fight when it's leader committed suicide, Japan lost it's will to fight when the nuclear bombs were dropped on it's cities.

Russia has failed to destroy Ukraine's will to fight.

Some on this board never had the will to oppose the second most brutal dictatorship of the 20th century. Why is that? Some on this board consistently take positions that benefits Russia the most. Why is that? I believe it's obvious who the Russian sympathizers and assets are.

 

[ll74]

There are a few here who don't understand what the purpose of war is. They seem to think it is about territory or body count. If that were the case the United States wound have won in Viet Nam. The Soviets would have won in Afghanistan. Again, the United States would have won in Afghanistan. Territory gained and body count are matrix from a bygone era used to measure the progress of war. During WW2, despite the territory gained and lost, despite the horrific loss of life, it took the death of a leader and the use of atomic bombs to win the war.

The purpose of war is to destroy the enemies will to fight. Germany lost the will to fight when it's leader committed suicide, Japan lost it's will to fight when the nuclear bombs were dropped on it's cities.

Russia has failed to destroy Ukraine's will to fight.

Some on this board never had the will to oppose the second most brutal dictatorship of the 20th century. Why is that? Some on this board consistently take positions that benefits Russia the most. Why is that? I believe it's obvious who the Russian sympathizers and assets are.

Agreed....that's evident by the answer "how many deaths are enough" that I seem to see from multiple people.

This is why it sucks when diplomacy fails or if parties involved fail to keep stability.

 

[Lazaran]

There are a few here who don't understand what the purpose of war is. They seem to think it is about territory or body count. If that were the case the United States wound have won in Viet Nam. The Soviets would have won in Afghanistan. Again, the United States would have won in Afghanistan. Territory gained and body count are matrix from a bygone era used to measure the progress of war. During WW2, despite the territory gained and lost, despite the horrific loss of life, it took the death of a leader and the use of atomic bombs to win the war.

The purpose of war is to destroy the enemies will to fight. Germany lost the will to fight when it's leader committed suicide, Japan lost it's will to fight when the nuclear bombs were dropped on it's cities.

Russia has failed to destroy Ukraine's will to fight.

Some on this board never had the will to oppose the second most brutal dictatorship of the 20th century. Why is that? Some on this board consistently take positions that benefits Russia the most. Why is that? I believe it's obvious who the Russian sympathizers and assets are.

Perfectly stated.

The one thing I would add: Beyond being Russian sympathizers and assets, they are traitors -(If they’re even American)

*nods*

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The purpose of war is to destroy the enemies will to fight. Germany lost the will to fight when it's leader committed suicide, Japan lost it's will to fight when the nuclear bombs were dropped on it's cities.

Just a minor correction, to your otherwise dead on post.

Japan didn't lose the will to fight after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

It was Stalin's agreement with the US and Britain to prosecute a war against Japan that caused the Japanese military to admit to defeat, and agree to sue for peace.

If you study the Japanese war cabinet records, you can clearly see they were fully prepared to defend against the up coming US lead invasion. Those meetings were held after Nagasaki.

 

[Rightguide]

Two new members of Nato is huge.

Might as well start right there. 31 members of NATO all with different national interests will be like herding cats. NATO is not united as we speak. None of them want a ground war in Europe. This is how united Europe is on Ukraine at present.

EU Foreign Policy Summit Sees Demands to Limit Ukraine Involvement​

The European Council continues to struggle over a unified foreign policy.

• Thomas O'Reilly
• — October 27, 2023

As a sure sign of shifting rhetoric among European leaders on the migration issue, Viktor Orbán linked the issue of mass migration to spiralling crime rates in an interview shortly before the summit.The Hungarian prime minister’s non-confrontational approach to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was helped by the presence of the new Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico, who was elected on a NATO-critical platform earlier this month.

The emergence of a pro-peace bloc at the Council poses serious questions about the EU’s continued resolve to fund the Ukrainian war effort, with Council President Charles Michel keen to gloss over growing factionalism in the EU’s foreign policy.

Both Hungary and Slovakia are opposing new funds for Ukraine as part of the EU budget, with the newly installed Slovakian government, itself a NATO member, announcing the cessation of arms supplies to Kyiv motivated by the impact of the war on its domestic economy, which is heavily exposed to Russian sanctions.

In his remarks at the summit, Fico emphasised that additional armaments to Ukraine were both futile and a hard sell to his electorate at home, as he warned that EU money was already being wasted due to corruption in Kyiv.

More from Europe here: https://europeanconservative.com/ar...it-sees-demands-to-limit-ukraine-involvement/

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

It’s wild that anyone believes anything either “side” says. I’m sure our government is always telling the truth.

 

[Shaglus_Ziegler]

The Russian supporters who have been attacking the country since 2014?

Right.

Zelensky is not responsible for something that Putin initiated.

You might win the biggest idiot on lit award! Way to go!!