For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

That's absolutely ridiculous. What is "freedom". Perhaps you should explain to me what that is, and how current wars in Gaza, Ukraine, Yemen etc. bring us "freedom" instead of increasing disasters.
Again, you are living in the society shaped by a past generation who's youth put their live son the line. Many died, and never returned home so you can type your irrelevant bullshit today.

Don't disparage those who sacrificed everything they were, or ever could be, by pretending you don't understand "freedom" you fucking ignorant selfish cunt!!
 
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Russia was ridiculed at the start of the war. Two years on, it has reasons to be confident​

PUBLISHED FRI, FEB 23 20241:11 AM ESTUPDATED FRI, FEB 23 20249:36 AM EST
Holly Ellyatt@HOLLYELLYATT

When Russia invaded Ukraine two years ago, the stout resistance mounted by the country’s armed forces and overwhelming Western support for Kyiv — along with some obvious military overreach by Moscow — raised hopes that Ukraine’s outnumbered and outgunned army could beat back the invading forces.

Fast forward two years and hopes of a Ukrainian victory look diminished and increasingly hollow, as do Western pledges to support Ukraine “for as long as it takes.”

As it stands, billions of dollars worth of American military aid remains unapproved with further struggles likely ahead, as war and funding fatigue grow in the run-up to the U.S. presidential election — a vote that could see an administration installed that’s less sympathetic to Ukraine’s war needs.

On the battlefield in Ukraine, meanwhile, the front lines have been broadly static for months, save for recent gains that have been made by Russian forces in the east of the country.

Much more here: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/23/rus...-in-ukraine-looking-confident-amid-gains.html

Even NBC gets it.

Somebody once said “It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.” The truth is that is exactly what has happened to the Biden administration and its forever clapping peanut gallery of trained seals like our own 1174 &co. All of whom so absolutely ignore it in the case of Ukraine.
 
POLITICS

Russia was ridiculed at the start of the war. Two years on, it has reasons to be confident​

LOL of course Russia has been ridiculed, a three day operation now entering it's third year....Russia launched an invasion with 150,000 troops. They have lost those, and since have had not one but two additional call ups of troops of 100,000. If you do the math, that is now 350,000 troops involved in the war for Russia. They lost 30,000 to take Bakmhut, and around the same for Avdiivka. Not to mention the 14,300 or so pieces of equipment.

Sure Russia can press on, another 5 months and another 30,000 lost. How many towns and cities till Russia achieves their goals? How much more will North Korea send in supplies, or China, or....because Russia cannot replace the over 60 Billion they have currently lost in equipment. It all ends if NK or China or Iran bails on supporting Putin.
 
Again, you are living in the society shaped by a past generation who's youth put their live son the line. Many died, and never returned home so you can type your irrelevant bullshit today.
Those wars (WW2 aside) were about profiteering for the richest. And in WW2, who played a huge role in winning it? The Soviet Red Army and the Yugoslav Partisans in Europe, and the Chinese PLA played a big part in the Far East, i.e. basically Communists, the USA's allies in WW2 who the capitalists under Truman turned against viciously after the war, leading to wars like Korea (a total disaster!).

Don't disparage those who sacrificed everything they were, or ever could be, by pretending you don't understand "freedom" you fucking ignorant selfish cunt!!
Resorting to personal attacks like you do usually means that you don't have political arguments left.

you should move to Russia
LOL.
 
Resorting to personal attacks like you do usually means that you don't have political arguments left.
You claimed to not know what freedom means. That is not political that is stupidity, your stupidity, fuck off you selfish worthless cunt. People died for your freedom. Give them the respect they deserve!!
 
Those wars (WW2 aside) were about profiteering for the richest. And in WW2, who played a huge role in winning it? The Soviet Red Army and the Yugoslav Partisans in Europe, and the Chinese PLA played a big part in the Far East, i.e. basically Communists, the USA's allies in WW2 who the capitalists under Truman turned against viciously after the war, leading to wars like Korea (a total disaster!).


Resorting to personal attacks like you do usually means that you don't have political arguments left.


LOL.
In World War II, both the Soviets and the Chinese were heavily dependent on American arms to wage war. They were able to supply the manpower, but communism failed when it came to production and logistics.

The capitalist United States basically won the war in the Pacific all by itself. The British were knocked out early and the Soviets only attacked Japan a week before they surrendered. The Communist Chinese spent as much time fighting the Nationalists as they spent fighting the Japanese.

And let's not forget the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The Soviets were quite happy to ally with the fascists to carve up eastern Europe. They only turned on the Nazis when Hitler stabbed them in the back and invaded.
 
In World War II, both the Soviets and the Chinese were heavily dependent on American arms to wage war.
It played a part, but the main part was the nationalized planned economy that the Soviets had. The Soviets lost 27 million people in WW2 and smashed the Nazi war machine. The US lost about 650,000 or so, Britain about 600,000, China somewhere near 20 million. The US were the only ones of these four without war being waged on the mainland, the key to its replacement of Great Britain as the biggest imperialist power in the world, getting other countries in the debt of the US.

They were able to supply the manpower, but communism failed when it came to production and logistics.
The Soviets massively outproduced the German Wehrmacht in equipment after the opening months, and the Germans occupied nearly all of Europe at the time. This was possible because of the nationalized planned economy in the Soviet Union, which was capable of shipping whole industries east, even east of the Ural mountains if necessary and out of danger. Ask yourself how Russia in 1917 was a country with 70% of its population as illiterate peasants, do very poorly in WW1, and how the Soviet Union was able to lose 27 million people in WW2, smash the German war machine and then be a world superpower in competition with the US in the Cold War, without receiving any Marshall Aid. Using your logic, it's magic. No capitalist system could do it.

The capitalist United States basically won the war in the Pacific all by itself.
Stalin wouldn't commit to the Pacific until the threat in Europe was over. Churchill was trying to stall out opening a second front in Europe, to Roosevelt's frustration. Churchill was thinking of the British Empire of course, the Red Sea route to India and the Mediterranean, hence his obsession with Italy and North Africa and his reluctance for some time to open a second front in Western Europe.

The British were knocked out early and the Soviets only attacked Japan a week before they surrendered.
The British beat back the Germans in the Battle of Britain, the only real setback that the Germans had in WW2 before the Soviets stopped the Germans at the gates of Moscow around 7-8 December 1941.

The Communist Chinese spent as much time fighting the Nationalists as they spent fighting the Japanese.
Not really in the WW2 years. The Japanese were the more immediate threat from the Chinese Communist point of view, and any Chinese Nationalist who wanted a future in a post-occupation China had to reject collaborating with the Japanese occupiers.

And let's not forget the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. The Soviets were quite happy to ally with the fascists to carve up eastern Europe. They only turned on the Nazis when Hitler stabbed them in the back and invaded.
Stalin's huge crime against the world working class right there, following on from his betrayal of the Spanish Revolution.

By the way, in 1938, Stalin offered Chamberlain and Daladier (the then rulers of Britain and France) an anti-fascist alliance against Germany. Chamberlain refused, and instead showed naked class interest in appeasing the Nazis by offering them to invade the Sudetenland (a then German speaking part of Czechoslovakia). This rejection of an anti-fascist alliance by Chamberlain, in favor of appeasing rich capitalists in Germany, basically made WW2 inevitable, and tens of millions of deaths. Stalin, being the bureaucrat he was, could see by August 1939 that Britain and France were urging Germany ever closer to the Soviet borders, so Stalin chose to do a deal with Hitler.
 
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You claimed to not know what freedom means.
Do tell us all what you think "freedom" is. We have freedom to starve, freedom to live in poverty etc.

Russia can't afford to win or lose the war, according to Asia Times. It will eventually end, but letting it drag on for a while may serve some interests.
The main point is the land that Russia already holds, especially as it's nearly all the Black Sea coast. Russia will be aiming at landlocking Ukraine completely and having land direct from Russia proper to Moldova. The fools who think Russia taking the whole of Ukraine is the only Russian victory missed the real picture. The fact of the matter is that holding down a hostile population is no fun, and that's what Russia would get in Western Ukraine. Russia will be happy with the land they already have (i.e. all the Black Sea coast east of the Dnieper river) and will seek to bridge to Moldova, and take much Russian speaking areas in Eastern Ukraine up to the Kharkov area. That would landlock Ukraine and leave Ukraine's far-right crazies in Kiev for the EU to deal with, which would be a massive headache for the EU. The European leaders will probably claim that Russia not taking the whole of Ukraine is "victory" for NATO, they are that delusional.

Now, had Ukraine respected the Minsk Accords, and had Boris Johnson not told Ukraine to fight Russia to the end, Russia today would only have Crimea and a commitment from the Ukrainians not to attack the Donbass Republics. Ukraine now have lost a lot more land, and will lose more. Yes, Russia made terrible mistakes early in the war and failed to cause a capitulation and collapse of the Kiev government, but the Russians have mostly learned from those mistakes.
 
Do tell us all what you think "freedom" is. We have freedom to starve, freedom to live in poverty etc.
So now you understand freedom. You're correct we have the choice.

Unlike those countries where you're forced into starvation and poverty because you have no freedom.

Just fuck off, you're as stupid as they come.
 
You claimed to not know what freedom means. That is not political that is stupidity, your stupidity, fuck off you selfish worthless cunt. People died for your freedom. Give them the respect they deserve!!

For the record I don't know what freedom means either and I suspect your ridicule is because you can't define either.
 
It played a part, but the main part was the nationalized planned economy that the Soviets had. The Soviets lost 27 million people in WW2 and smashed the Nazi war machine. The US lost about 650,000 or so, Britain about 600,000, China somewhere near 20 million. The US were the only ones of these four without war being waged on the mainland, the key to its replacement of Great Britain as the biggest imperialist power in the world, getting other countries in the debt of the US.


The Soviets massively outproduced the German Wehrmacht in equipment after the opening months, and the Germans occupied nearly all of Europe at the time. This was possible because of the nationalized planned economy in the Soviet Union, which was capable of shipping whole industries east, even east of the Ural mountains if necessary and out of danger. Ask yourself how Russia in 1917 was a country with 70% of its population as illiterate peasants, do very poorly in WW1, and how the Soviet Union was able to lose 27 million people in WW2, smash the German war machine and then be a world superpower in competition with the US in the Cold War, without receiving any Marshall Aid. Using your logic, it's magic. No capitalist system could do it.


Stalin wouldn't commit to the Pacific until the threat in Europe was over. Churchill was trying to stall out opening a second front in Europe, to Roosevelt's frustration. Churchill was thinking of the British Empire of course, the Red Sea route to India and the Mediterranean, hence his obsession with Italy and North Africa and his reluctance for some time to open a second front in Western Europe.


The British beat back the Germans in the Battle of Britain, the only real setback that the Germans had in WW2 before the Soviets stopped the Germans at the gates of Moscow around 7-8 December 1941.


Not really in the WW2 years. The Japanese were the more immediate threat from the Chinese Communist point of view, and any Chinese Nationalist who wanted a future in a post-occupation China had to reject collaborating with the Japanese occupiers.


Stalin's huge crime against the world working class right there, following on from his betrayal of the Spanish Revolution.

By the way, in 1938, Stalin offered Chamberlain and Daladier (the then rulers of Britain and France) an anti-fascist alliance against Germany. Chamberlain refused, and instead showed naked class interest in appeasing the Nazis by offering them to invade the Sudetenland (a then German speaking part of Czechoslovakia). This rejection of an anti-fascist alliance by Chamberlain, in favor of appeasing rich capitalists in Germany, basically made WW2 inevitable, and tens of millions of deaths. Stalin, being the bureaucrat he was, could see by August 1939 that Britain and France were urging Germany ever closer to the Soviet borders, so Stalin chose to do a deal with Hitler.
The Soviets certainly fought heroically in World War II, but their victory was due more to their massive population advantage over Germany than to the superiority of their economic system. The capitalist United States beat Japan in the Pacific virtually single-handed while simultaneously shipping massive amounts of food and war material to the USSR. It's estimated at the height of the war 1/3 of the trucks used by the Red Army were built in the United States.
 
For the record I don't know what freedom means either and I suspect your ridicule is because you can't define either.
I have no problem defining freedom. It is the ability to make choices for yourself, within the legal bounds of the society you live in. As opposed to having no choices and forced into being what the rulers of your society choose.

See? Its not very hard to define freedom. Maybe go live somewhere else for a while. My favourite place to point out to try is Serria Leone.
 
So now you understand freedom. You're correct we have the choice.
Ah yes. The choice to starve or work as a wage slave.

The Soviets certainly fought heroically in World War II, but their victory was due more to their massive population advantage over Germany than to the superiority of their economic system.
Please explain why Germany largely dominated the Russians in WW1 then, and why the opposite was mostly true in WW2.

The capitalist United States beat Japan in the Pacific virtually single-handed while simultaneously shipping massive amounts of food and war material to the USSR. It's estimated at the height of the war 1/3 of the trucks used by the Red Army were built in the United States.
There's no way it was that many, and your post certainly doesn't explain how Russia in a few decades goes from a 70% illiterate peasant population battered by Germany in WW1 to losing 27 million people in WW2 and smashing Germany, to then rebuilding to become a world superpower without any Marshall Aid. Of course it was the nationalized planned economy, and also why they outproduced the Germans in WW2. The US, Britain and Germany all thought the Soviets would collapse in weeks to months after the German invasion.

I have no problem defining freedom. It is the ability to make choices for yourself, within the legal bounds of the society you live in. As opposed to having no choices and forced into being what the rulers of your society choose.

See? Its not very hard to define freedom. Maybe go live somewhere else for a while. My favourite place to point out to try is Serria Leone.
In Cuba, their citizens have free healthcare for all, free education for all, affordable housing for all and now a higher life expectancy than here in the US. Is that not more free? In US politics, we can't get anywhere unless we have big (and I mean, big) money behind us.
 
There's no way it was that many, and your post certainly doesn't explain how Russia in a few decades goes from a 70% illiterate peasant population battered by Germany in WW1 to losing 27 million people in WW2 and smashing Germany, to then rebuilding to become a world superpower without any Marshall Aid. Of course it was the nationalized planned economy, and also why they outproduced the Germans in WW2. The US, Britain and Germany all thought the Soviets would collapse in weeks to months after the German invasion.
I'm not talking about the Marshall plan, I'm talking about Lend-Lease, which the US gave to the USSR throughout WWII.
 
Ah yes. The choice to starve or work as a wage slave.
The key word is choice. Not forced.
In Cuba, their citizens have free healthcare for all, free education for all, affordable housing for all and now a higher life expectancy than here in the US. Is that not more free? In US politics, we can't get anywhere unless we have big (and I mean, big) money behind us.
No it's not, fuck you're dumb.
 
I'm not talking about the Marshall plan, I'm talking about Lend-Lease, which the US gave to the USSR throughout WWII.
The Soviets lost 27 million people in WW2, smashed the German war machine and then rebuilt without Marshall Aid to become a world superpower in the Cold War against the United States. How is it possible on a capitalist basis? It isn't. Overstating the impact of Lend Lease doesn't change that.

And think, as recently as when the Soviet Union was formalized in 1922, they were a country with a very high illiterate peasant population that had been devastated by WW1 and then the Russian Civil War. Also, prior to WW2, Stalin had been carrying out the Great Purge against the Old Bolsheviks and the Red Army officers. And then he spent the early part of WW2 desperately appeasing Nazis in an attempt to make them look westwards and southwards instead of eastwards. Stalin basically deserted in the early weeks of the German invasion, and there were months of terrible setbacks. The Soviets still recovered and eventually smashed the German army completely and rebuilt to become a world superpower. It frightened the Truman administration enough to start the Cold War, a very different strategy from the FDR/Wallace administration who actually saw the Soviets as allies.
 
I have no problem defining freedom. It is the ability to make choices for yourself, within the legal bounds of the society you live in. As opposed to having no choices and forced into being what the rulers of your society choose.

See? Its not very hard to define freedom. Maybe go live somewhere else for a while. My favourite place to point out to try is Serria Leone.

If we use this definition "freedom" is whatever the government says it is. Not as opposed to having no choices and forced into being anything. These are the exact same thing. I've never been to Sierra Leone but I suspect they don't care if you have turkey on rye, ham on wheat or beef tongue on sourdough.

By your definition that is freedom. Maybe try again with something more concise?
 
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