For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Rightguide]

Rightguide, in one of my last post's I stated 6 Russian ships and one submarine. Later I discovered it is 4 Russian ships and the submarine headed towards Cuba. Apparently the formation is off the coast of Florida at the present. I'm betting this is a brandishing of weaponry... sort of the middle finger to o'l two scoops...

My understanding is they are either in port in Cuba or in the vicinity.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-cuba-ships-military-exercises-caribbean-what-to-expect/

 

[Rightguide]

Lindsey Graham just said the quiet part out loud and it doesn't have anything to do with the freedom or survivability of the Ukrainian people:

“If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of, that $10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let’s help them win a war we can’t afford to lose. Let’s find a solution to this war. But they’re sitting on a gold mine to give Putin $10 or $12 trillion dollars of critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous.”

The truth is Russia doesn't need those minerals, their country is running over with them. The West would like to control them though, folks like Blackrock.

 

[Lazaran]

Lindsey Graham just said the quiet part out loud and it doesn't have anything to do with the freedom or survivability of the Ukrainian people:

“If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of, that $10 to $12 trillion of critical mineral assets could be used by Ukraine and the West, not given to Putin and China. This is a very big deal how Ukraine ends. Let’s help them win a war we can’t afford to lose. Let’s find a solution to this war. But they’re sitting on a gold mine to give Putin $10 or $12 trillion dollars of critical minerals that he will share with China is ridiculous.”

The truth is Russia doesn't need those minerals, their country is running over with them. The West would like to control them though, folks like Blackrock.

Russiaguide is not only a coward and a traitor, but also, a dumb sonofabitch.



Russia and China are actively trying to corner the market on EVERYTHING through force and intimidation.

Russia and China need to control the mineral resource, etc, in Ukraine, etc, to control the world.

U.S. leaders etc, allowing that ^ to happen would be gross negligence and dereliction of office.

Only an ignorant traitor and coward (Russiaguide) would oppose the U.S., etc, standing up to Russian and Chinese efforts to achieve world domination.



Russiaguide

 

[Rightguide]

Biden Regime Lifts Ban on Arming Ukraine’s Neo-Nazi Azov Battallion​

By Jim Hoft Jun. 11, 2024 5:20 pm

Photo: Russia-insider.com
The Ukrainian military’s Azov Division is famous for promoting Nazism and Nazi symbols.
Back in 2019, 40 Democrats signed a letter saying they condemned the Nazi Azov Battalion in Ukraine.
Kanekoa The Great dug up this letter from 2019.

On October 16, 2019, the top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee’s counterterrorism subpanel, Rep. Max Rose (NY), led a letter signed by forty Democrats asking the State Department why they had not placed Ukraine’s Azov Battalion on the U.S. list of “foreign terrorist organizations” (FTOs).

In the letter, the lawmakers compared the Azov Battalion to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and discussed how, Brenton Tarrant, the Christchurch, New Zealand mosque shooter, who massacred fifty-one people in 2019, had been radicalized by the “ultranationalist militia organization” which “openly welcomes neo-Nazis into its ranks”.

“For Example, the Azov Battalion is a well-known ultranationalist militia organization in Ukraine that openly welcomes neo-Nazis into its ranks. The group is so well-known, in fact, that the 115th Congress of the United States stated in its 2018 omnibus spending bill that ‘none of the funds made available by this act may be used to provide arms, training or other assistance to the Azov Battalion.’ The United Nations has chronicled human rights abuses and incidents of torture in this group’s relatively short history. Despite these facts, Azov has been recruiting, radicalizing, and training American citizens for years according to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

The rest here including letter signed by Democrats:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/biden-regime-lifts-ban-arming-ukraines-neo-nazi/

 

[Lazaran]

Biden Regime Lifts Ban on Arming Ukraine’s Neo-Nazi Azov Battallion

ANOTHER LIE from Russiaguide.

The U.S. lifted a ban on the Azov BRIGADE after a thorough review of its CURRENT members and its actions:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1vv6p9k1z1o.amp

Russiaguide and Putin are super-sadsies.



Russiaguide and Putin

 

[ll74]

Oh look....Russia starved civilians. What a shocker

Assholes

Russia accused of ‘deliberate’ starvation tactics in Mariupol in submission to ICC​

 

[jomar]

Dear Mr. @Rightguide, the PB folk don’t necessarily disavow the GP root data. What the PB folk on not your side object to is having to wade through all the partisan spin and misinformation. We’ve been through this before. Find a Hill article that supports your points. Otherwise, you’re links are ignored and derided.

 

[ll74]

This is the most laughable offer of "peace" I've ever seen. Basically he expects Ukraine to hand over land Russia hasn't even controlled (or has previously lost) . This isn't a serious offer.

Putin offers truce if Ukraine exits Russian-claimed areas and drops NATO bid. Kyiv rejects it​

 

[Rightguide]

Dear Mr. @Rightguide, the PB folk don’t necessarily disavow the GP root data. What the PB folk on not your side object to is having to wade through all the partisan spin and misinformation. We’ve been through this before. Find a Hill article that supports your points. Otherwise, you’re links are ignored and derided.

Have at it. I'll just ignore you as well for thinking your sources contain no spin of their own.

 

[jomar]

Have at it. I'll just ignore you as well for thinking your sources contain no spin of their own.

You actually missed the point.

 

[ll74]

Haha.....fucker

Russia halts currency buys as rouble tumbles​

 

[Rightguide]

Haha.....fucker

Russia halts currency buys as rouble tumbles​

This from Business Insider on June 4:
https://www.businessinsider.com/rus...y-and-strongly-overheated-sberbank-ceo-2024-6

 

[Rightguide]

This is the most laughable offer of "peace" I've ever seen. Basically he expects Ukraine to hand over land Russia hasn't even controlled (or has previously lost) . This isn't a serious offer.

Putin offers truce if Ukraine exits Russian-claimed areas and drops NATO bid. Kyiv rejects it​

Zelensky expects Russia to hand over all territory it has taken. Russia will suggest they keep the Eastern provinces in exchange for a ceasefire. They now have Zelensky on the ropes with little to bargain with. It's the West that drives this war but they have little to offer as well. NATO says they have 300,000 troops on alert, but at what level of readiness? They are scattered all over the place, they have no unity of command and what war stocks we have left are in Germany far from the front. The US, the prime supplier of those weapons and stocks, is at the tail of its logistical chain and supply capability. We have big problems right here at home. The last war the Russians lost was the Russo-Japanese War in 1904-05, they beat Napoleon in 1812, and prevailed in both World Wars. It's a mistake to underestimate them for how far they will go to secure their state. Currently they have warships one of which has a nuclear capability in Havana Harbor less than 100 miles for Florida.

 

[ll74]

Zelensky expects Russia to hand over all territory it has taken. Russia will suggest they keep the Eastern provinces in exchange for a ceasefire. They now have Zelensky on the ropes with little to bargain with. It's the West that drives this war but they have little to offer as well. NATO says they have 300,000 troops on alert, but at what level of readiness? They are scattered all over the place, they have no unity of command and what war stocks we have left are in Germany far from the front. The US, the prime supplier of those weapons and stocks, is at the tail of its logistical chain and supply capability. We have big problems right here at home. The last war the Russians lost was the Russo-Japanese War in 1904-05, they beat Napoleon in 1812, and prevailed in both World Wars. It's a mistake to underestimate them for how far they will go to secure their state. Currently they have warships one of which has a nuclear capability in Havana Harbor less than 100 miles for Florida.

Putin's peace plan is ludicrous. Your response is deflection.

 

[Rightguide]

Putin's peace plan is ludicrous. Your response is deflection.

So is Zelensky's was my point.

 

[Rightguide]

MSM Tries To Put a Positive Spin on Ukraine’s Old Soldiers and the Social Chaos Caused by Forced Mobilization (VIDEOS)​

By Paul Serran Jun. 15, 2024 3:40 pm

As the geopolitical world moves towards the possibility of negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, the Mainstream Media doubles down on its mission to look with rosy-colored glasses on the dire situation the Kiev regime finds itself in.

To begin with, it’s necessary to whitewash the situation regarding the lack of troops and the fact that the average age of the defenders has reached the middle forties.

And they are facing the bigger and better equipped Russian Federation forces.

Ukraine is under constant pressure to forcibly conscript troops in the third year of the war and there are no volunteers anymore

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/06/msm-tries-put-positive-spin-ukraines-old-soldiers/

 

[ll74]

So is Zelensky's was my point.

His initial plan was ludicrous. His ten point plan is a starting point
Putin's has no runway to develop.

 

[dkovic77]

Zelensky expects Russia to hand over all territory it has taken. Russia will suggest they keep the Eastern provinces in exchange for a ceasefire. They now have Zelensky on the ropes with little to bargain with. It's the West that drives this war but they have little to offer as well. NATO says they have 300,000 troops on alert, but at what level of readiness? They are scattered all over the place, they have no unity of command and what war stocks we have left are in Germany far from the front. The US, the prime supplier of those weapons and stocks, is at the tail of its logistical chain and supply capability. We have big problems right here at home.

Those big problems are brought to you by the letters M A G (and throw in another A). It would be so much more functional if there was a single interest in governing. And that’s not even just my opinion, pretty sure that’s what Chip thinks too. (But if you didn’t get to see his speech on the house floor a bit ago since it wasn’t something your basement bloggers wanted to elevate because it only hurt the brand…here you go)

The last war the Russians lost was the Russo-Japanese War in 1904-05, they beat Napoleon in 1812, and prevailed in both World Wars. It's a mistake to underestimate them for how far they will go to secure their state. Currently they have warships one of which has a nuclear capability in Havana Harbor less than 100 miles for Florida.

So tell your Daddy Vlady to back down. I’m sure he saw the US and Canada move some Navy assets into the bay as well.

@BabyBoomer50s Is your Nazi boy going to stand up the Florida guard? (Look wrong guide, you brought up Florida… whine about me not staying on topic…small brain) Or is he still more worried about spending millions to move 50 people to another place from another place? Or is Nazi Ron too busy saving Bibles since his over reaching legislation put those on the chopping block in schools too. Have you heard some of those passages in there? Filthy! No way should that be near kids…even a local pastor agreed.

Do they celebrate Father’s Day in Mother Russia as well? Is that why your trip is planned now?

Are you showing Daddy Vlady how much you appreciate him? (It’s clear you underestimate your Daddy… he doesn’t break up with folks, you just have an accident. On the plus side, it’s fewer garbage posts here…but I’m sure the fry guy @icanhelp1 will step up his “work” and pick up the stupid slack)

 

[Rightguide]

His initial plan was ludicrous. His ten point plan is a starting point
Putin's has no runway to develop.

Ukraine rejected Putin"s offer for a cease-fire. Putin replied he was looking forward to a "final solution." I don't know what that means but it doesn't sound good for Ukraine. Zelensky ought to stop listening to Blinken's buttercups and understand his country's capitol is on the abyss of total destruction and there isn't a whole lot that NATO can do about it and survive untouched themselves. That's the reality.

 

[ll74]

Ukraine rejected Putin"s offer for a cease-fire.

Because It involved unreasonable demands, like giving up regions Ukraine occupied.

Putin replied he was looking forward to a "final solution." I don't know what that means but it doesn't sound good for Ukraine. Zelensky ought to stop listening to Blinken's buttercups and understand his country's capitol is on the abyss of total destruction and there isn't a whole lot that NATO can do about it and survive untouched themselves. That's the reality.

Yes, the right seems to have shifted to all our destruction of Ukraine to force them to capitulate. What a peaceful guy.

Russia gains nothing by this invasion.

 

[Rightguide]

Because It involved unreasonable demands, like giving up regions Ukraine occupied.


Yes, the right seems to have shifted to all our destruction of Ukraine to force them to capitulate. What a peaceful guy.

Russia gains nothing by this invasion.

Putin said a day or two ago that he now has 700,000 men on the Ukrainian front. That is almost twice the size of our entire army. Yes they have taken huge casualties and the Ukrainians have taken just as many. The difference as I've maintained from the beginning is that Russia has four times the number to lose and they aren't afraid of doing so as their history shows, manpower and Russia's superior industrial base are the reason why the Ukrainians have all but lost this war. It's all a matter of time before the Russians have had enough and decide to flatten Kiev. In the end, Ukraine will either be a flattened no man's land, a rump state of Russia, or a neutral country with no NATO presence.

If NATO puts ground troops in Ukraine I think we're going to see a nuclear demonstration in Ukraine or in Europe. When and if that happens Russia will be roundly condemned worldwide, teeth will grind, hands will wring, but nobody will want to see it repeated on their territory. It's called Escalate to Deescalate which has been documented in Russian military doctrine for years and it could actually play out in real-time if we decide to get out over our skis in an attempt to occupy territory on their southern border. Wars are won twenty years before they happen. What's left of the ground warfare weaponry we have stored in Germany, Italy, and Turkey, was designed in the 70s, and 80s for use in the 90s. Here we are 24 years later with about 151,000 "troops" in Europe. 129,000 of those are Air Force personnel, about 21,000 are Army personnel, and 480 Marines (mostly Embassy Security), and maybe another 80 or 90,000 in the logistical pipeline 5 to 7000 miles distant over what might very well be contested airspace and ocean. NATO as a combined combat force today is a joke and we are 90 percent of that joke.

 

[ll74]

Putin said a day or two ago that he now has 700,000 men on the Ukrainian front. That is almost twice the size of our entire army. Yes they have taken huge casualties and the Ukrainians have taken just as many. The difference as I've maintained from the beginning is that Russia has four times the number to lose and they aren't afraid of doing so as their history shows, manpower and Russia's superior industrial base are the reason why the Ukrainians have all but lost this war. It's all a matter of time before the Russians have had enough and decide to flatten Kiev. In the end, Ukraine will either be a flattened no man's land, a rump state of Russia, or a neutral country with no NATO presence.

And?

If NATO puts ground troops in Ukraine I think we're going to see a nuclear demonstration in Ukraine or in Europe. When and if that happens Russia will be roundly condemned worldwide, teeth will grind, hands will wring, but nobody will want to see it repeated on their territory. It's called Escalate to Deescalate which has been documented in Russian military doctrine for years and it could actually play out in real-time if we decide to get out over our skis in an attempt to occupy territory on their southern border. Wars are won twenty years before they happen. What's left of the ground warfare weaponry we have stored in Germany, Italy, and Turkey, was designed in the 70s, and 80s for use in the 90s. Here we are 24 years later with about 151,000 "troops" in Europe. 129,000 of those are Air Force personnel, about 21,000 are Army personnel, and 480 Marines (mostly Embassy Security), and maybe another 80 or 90,000 in the logistical pipeline 5 to 7000 miles distant over what might very well be contested airspace and ocean. NATO as a combined combat force today is a joke and we are 90 percent of that joke.

Sounds like yove been playing your Putin war simulator game a bit too much lately.

 

[Rightguide]

And?


Sounds like yove been playing your Putin war simulator game a bit too much lately.

That's not it at all. I study the issue from credible sources and you believe the very same media who has been lying to you for years. Take the DOD's own numbers and tell me how we can push a credible force into Europe before it can be targeted as it moves the final thousand miles to the front. When we go to war I want us to win. I don't want to see us fail like we have consistently since WWII. Some things aren't worth another half a million American lives, like Ukraine.

We need to find a way to keep Russia in the European fold and away from China. if that means Putin has to go then so be it, but the Russian people have to be on board. Nobody but a handful of billionaire donors want to chance war in Europe to secure the mineral wealth of Ukraine and that is the bottom line motivator for the elite driving this war. It certainly isn't about the Ukrainian people.

 

[ll74]

That's not it at all. I study the issue from credible sources and you believe the very same media who has been lying to you for years. Take the DOD's own numbers and tell me how we can push a credible force into Europe before it can be targeted as it moves the final thousand miles to the front. When we go to war I want us to win. I don't want to see us fail like we have consistently since WWII. Some things aren't worth another half a million American lives, like Ukraine.

You support complete capitulation of Ukraine and every "source" you find supports that view

World war 3 is not almost beginning. Putin wants you to think it is and you're gullible.

We need to find a way to keep Russia in the European fold and away from China. if that means Putin has to go then so be it, but the Russian people have to be on board. Nobody but a handful of billionaire donors want to chance war in Europe to secure the mineral wealth of Ukraine and that is the bottom line motivator for the elite driving this war. It certainly isn't about the Ukrainian people.

This is an internal political thing in Russia. The problem is that autocratic dictators don't leave their post. Every Russian who has gone against that has been removed.

 

[Rightguide]

You support complete capitulation of Ukraine and every "source" you find supports that view

World war 3 is not almost beginning. Putin wants you to think it is and you're gullible.


This is an internal political thing in Russia. The problem is that autocratic dictators don't leave their post. Every Russian who has gone against that has been removed.

The trouble with that is he is popular with the majority of Russians. They support what he is doing. I'm not hearing about any mobs climbing the walls of the Kremlin to get at him.