Going to extremes

Pure said:
everyone likes adrenaline, gracie!

:devil:

abstract person. :nana:

I don't. It literally makes me ill to my stomach.

Well . . . I don't like adrenaline rushes. Things that make adrenaline HIT me, I hate. I'm a chicken, I admit it. lol

And me? Abstract? You must be speaking of someone else. lol
 
graceanne said:
The first person, who NEEDS to act out the scene, is not in the control of his adrenaline addiction. The need to act out the scene controls him, he's not in control of himself. The other would be the opposite, he enjoys the scene, but it's not a NEED. If he were to get sick he'd know he's still a dom, that domination comes from the soul, not from the action.

That he's in control. Not just of me, but of himself.

I like how you used the phrase "that dominantion", almost as if you are describing something that is completely different from other types or forms of domination.

A domination that comes from the soul and not the action. Very interesting to think on indeed.

So for you, when a Dom shows that he is in control of himself, that is a part of what allows you to view him differently than others. I imagine that would take some time to know that person and see how they react to many different things.

Again thank you Grace. :rose:
 
do you like excitement, gracie? sights and experiences that get your heart beating a bit more strongly? parades? jillin?

cum'on 'fess up!

:nana:

i remain,

very abstract. :devil:

--
what's all this sole stuff? wouldn't you rather be spanked with a flounder?
 
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A Desert Rose said:
graceanne said:
... If he were to get sick he'd know he's still a dom, that domination comes from the soul, not from the action...QUOTE]

I know several Dominants that fit this description.

*Puts an alkzeltzer tablet between ADR toes under water and listens to her laugh and scream from the bubbles.
:D
 
RJMasters said:
... I imagine that would take some time to know that person and see how they react to many different things.

Again thank you Grace. :rose:

Yea... more time than like say... 2 months.

LOL
 
Pure said:
do you like excitement, gracie? sights and experiences that get your heart beating a bit more strongly?
Well, I like sex, and it gets my heart beating more strongly. Otherwise . . . no.
not really - they're boring. I like to take my kids though, cause they love parades.
jillin?

cum'on 'fess up!

:nana:

i remain,

very abstract. :devil:

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what's all this sole stuff? wouldn't you rather be spanked with a flounder?

I'm not kidding. Until I'd been married I'd never drank even a wine cooler. I've never been to a party, I won't go on most rides at the amusement parks, I hate it when K drives fast or deliberately swerves. I won't go 4X4ing, and motercycles terrify me. I won't put my face under water, I detest bridges, and I'm afraid of the dark. I'm a scardey cat. I always have been. To tell the truth I'm a lot less a fraidy cat than I used to be. But when it comes to anythign with me, slow and easy is how to do it. I don't make huge changes in myself, I just go a little at a time. I'm like a faithful old dog - boring, faithful and loyal. It's one of the reasons K's so good for me - he's very spontaneous, he keeps me out of a rut.
 
Kajira Callista said:
I have rewritten this three times :eek: lol.
The ability to see under or passed the face presented to the world.

When someone can touch...inside...then they have achieved getting the response they were seeking.
This probably doesn't make much sense but it is not easy to explain.

I think this makes perfect sense and here is why IMO.

It takes time for a person to feel comfortable in showing another person what is past the face which is presented.

When someone can touch inside.... There is alot being said there that isn't be said there. To be able to touch another on the inside carries with it, alot. I think perhaps its what I was talking about when I said taking the time and energy in developing that special connection between two people.

When that connection is developed and exists, just being with that person is extreme in many ways. It allows for even the simple things to matter and be special. Over the period of a relationship, it allows for both extreme acts and simple day to day activities to coexist in harmony and be satisfying.
 
RJMasters said:
I like how you used the phrase "that dominantion", almost as if you are describing something that is completely different from other types or forms of domination.

A domination that comes from the soul and not the action. Very interesting to think on indeed.

So for you, when a Dom shows that he is in control of himself, that is a part of what allows you to view him differently than others. I imagine that would take some time to know that person and see how they react to many different things.

Again thank you Grace. :rose:

I just don't see how someone who can't control himself can adequately control another person. I could be totally wrong, it does happen.

As for 'that' domination, there are many ways to dominate. I was just referring to one specific. Frankly Gil doesn't seem to have any trouble dominating Bandit, and he's in and out of hospitals.
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Who needs the Circus when you know you have the Ringmaster..........smiles :rose:

LMAO

Sorry RJ, I don't mean to keep hijacking this thread... it's just, ya know... me.
 
A Desert Rose said:
LMAO

Sorry RJ, I don't mean to keep hijacking this thread... it's just, ya know... me.

If you ever stop hijacking I'm going to seriously start worrying about you.

Besides I wanna be as good a hijacker as you and KC when I grow up. :kiss:
 
graceanne said:
If you ever stop hijacking I'm going to seriously start worrying about you.

Besides I wanna be as good a hijacker as you and KC when I grow up. :kiss:

Those are lofty goals to aspire to, too. LOL
 
A Desert Rose said:
Those are lofty goals to aspire to, too. LOL

Did I ever tell you, you're my hero
You're everything everything I wish I could be. . . .

:p
 
graceanne said:
Did I ever tell you, you're my hero
You're everything everything I wish I could be. . . .

:p

I can name that tune in 4 notes!!!!

(Bet you're too young to remember that show, aren't you? lol)
 
A Desert Rose said:
I can name that tune in 4 notes!!!!

(Bet you're too young to remember that show, aren't you? lol)

Oddly enough, I'm not. But that's cuase I have cable, and they play it in reruns sometimes. lol
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:

No, their was a game show where they'd play like the first few notes of a song and then you had to guess the song.
 
Etoile said:
I attended a workshop at the 2006 Leather Leadership Conference about whether edgeplay is getting too dangerous. The focus of the workshop was mostly on how-to workshops that get presented - whether it's okay to present something really dangerous and then have newbies in attendance go home and try it. Whether the workshop presenters are at all liable for any problems the attendees might encounter during this.

I do think we're getting edgier. As more vanilla types cross over into the kinky, we kinky folks look for things to make us more distinctive. I think it's all about what individual partnerships want - sexual partners, romantic partners, play partners, etc - what they want for each other, and not what other people think we should be doing to make ourselves distinct.

I remember you saying this a while back and it caught my attention. I think you make a good observation overall.

It seems in some ways easier to present a technique, than say to present philosophical views on things. Namely in agreement with your comment about things being individualistic. Making sure one knows how to properly rig a body harness is basically the same for all people, but relationship issues seem to be a whole different ball game at times.
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Who needs the Circus when you know you have the Ringmaster..........smiles :rose:

Grinz...that makes sense in a Rebecca sort of way. :rose:

Care to expound upon what you said?
 
graceanne said:
I just don't see how someone who can't control himself can adequately control another person. I could be totally wrong, it does happen.

As for 'that' domination, there are many ways to dominate. I was just referring to one specific. Frankly Gil doesn't seem to have any trouble dominating Bandit, and he's in and out of hospitals.

Nods I know exactly what you mean Grace.

:)
 
Given I am still not firing on all cylinders, I might not be reading this right as I skim through, but my thinking is I would prefer someone who NEEDS to rather than someone who just WANTS to. Why? For one, I feel safer and more in tune with someone who does out of need, more so than someone who does out of want as IME the 'want' driven ones are the ones who will go into areas they do not know anything about and without researching first simply because they want to be seen to be edgy and keeping up with the Jones's. The one who needs on the other hand usually is very aware of their need and seeks to find the source of that need, and how to feed it safely and regularly to keep it under control. It doesn't mean they act without control, or if they are ill or their pyl is ill, they go ahead anyway...it means they cannot turn it on and off depending on whether they want to impress, have an audience, seem to be cool etc., but they can take a raincheck when circumstances are not ideal. Need to me demonstrates who a person is, want often demonstrates who they want to appear to be. Guess it is subjective to which angle you look at it from.

Catalina :rose:
 
catalina_francisco said:
Given I am still not firing on all cylinders, I might not be reading this right as I skim through, but my thinking is I would prefer someone who NEEDS to rather than someone who just WANTS to. Why? For one, I feel safer and more in tune with someone who does out of need, more so than someone who does out of want as IME the 'want' driven ones are the ones who will go into areas they do not know anything about and without researching first simply because they want to be seen to be edgy and keeping up with the Jones's. The one who needs on the other hand usually is very aware of their need and seeks to find the source of that need, and how to feed it safely and regularly to keep it under control. It doesn't mean they act without control, or if they are ill or their pyl is ill, they go ahead anyway...it means they cannot turn it on and off depending on whether they want to impress, have an audience, seem to be cool etc., but they can take a raincheck when circumstances are not ideal. Need to me demonstrates who a person is, want often demonstrates who they want to appear to be. Guess it is subjective to which angle you look at it from.

Catalina :rose:

Amen to that. Want/Need is a really important split IMHO.
I'm going to side with Cat. on this one - give me somebody driven to do what they do. I love a Natural Born Pervert!
:kiss: J.
 
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