Gun play?

[WriterDom]

I was 12 when I got my first real gun. Or maybe 13. A twenty guage double barrel. A friend who wasn't raised with guns pointed one at someone at a party during high school. We all chewed his ass out.

 

[Sayyid]

If someone was able to get their hands on a gun during a party, they're doing it wrong.

 

[Homburg]

I was 12 when I got my first real gun. Or maybe 13. A twenty guage double barrel. A friend who wasn't raised with guns pointed one at someone at a party during high school. We all chewed his ass out.

A friend once came out of his bedroom with an old break-open style single barrel shotgun and pointed it at me. He made some stupid-ass comment and asked what was I going to do now? I asked him if it was loaded, and he made non-committal noises. I told him it might be better for him if it was loaded, as otherwise he had about five seconds to leave the area before I took that gun away and beat the fuck out of him with it.

Sounds like typical puffery, but I don't make casual threats, and the people that know me know this. I don't play around with things like that, and another friend of ours quickly reminded him of this fact. When he came back sans gun, I bitched him out good and solid. Then apologised to the rest of our friends and left the house.

Stupid people are the reason why normal, decent, intelligent folk have unreasoning fears of firearms.

 

[WriterDom]

If someone was able to get their hands on a gun during a party, they're doing it wrong.

Probably. But this was back in the 70s when school shootings were inconceivable. I don't think my dad even knew what a trigger lock was.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

The Gun Thing - Eddie Izzard

 

[YourCaptor]

I'm sure its possible to find replicas with the same weight and feel, but no functional parts.

However I think it would get boring fast, after the, suck on my gun, and the, I'm fucking your holes with a loaded gun, what next.

Although doing that and then setting of a fire cracker or something would be damn amusing.

 

[MisterSir]

I'm sure its possible to find replicas with the same weight and feel, but no functional parts.

However I think it would get boring fast, after the, suck on my gun, and the, I'm fucking your holes with a loaded gun, what next.

Although doing that and then setting of a fire cracker or something would be damn amusing.

Only if you're using the damn thing as a prop in of itself, and if you're doing that with a real gun you've got bigger problems than I can help you with.

 

[ZRT]

Brandon Lee was the son of Bruce Lee, and he died making what would've been his first break-out movie as the lead. The movie is "The Crow."

When close-ups are done of revolvers, fake bullets are put in the revolver's chambers so that the camera does not see light shining through, and the gun looks more realistic. The propmaster is supposed to remove these bullets after the shot. In this case, he did not. When the squib (a round with no shell, or a wad of cloth at most, designed to make it look like the gun went off) was loaded for a later scene where the gun must be discharged, it still had the bullets in the chamber.

The scene involved the bad guy shooting Brandon Lee's character int he chest. He gets up, as his character is already dead and not too bothered by bullets. The squib went off behind the bullet, causing the bullet to exit the gun just like a real one would. It impacted his chest and acted like a real bullet, killing him.

That this sort of accident does not happen more often is a testament to the safety standards most films operate under. Keroin could probably speak much more eloquently on this, and bear in mind that I'm going off of memory. This happened many years ago, and my details may be a little shakey as a result.

From what I understand, what happened with Brandon Lee is that they actually fired their professional gun wrangler, and a prop guy with no firearm experience loaded the piece both times.

First time, it was a primer, no powder, bullet on the cartridge. Primer goes off, shoves the bullet into the barrel. He unloads the piece, next day he loads it with a blank. Blank charge fires into barrel, pushes it out with enough velocity to kill Lee.

Either way the story goes, it's damn tragic.

As for the OP, I'd say that there are plenty of toys that -look- like firearms but are easily differentiated when you go to do your thing. Just for Christ's sake it shouldn't be anything (pellet gun, BB gun or whatever) that discharges some sort of actual projectile, given that it's probably going to be waved around in somebody's face.

Not my bag either, but I can see where people get an erotic fear thing off of it by using their imagination.

 

[Homburg]

First time, it was a primer, no powder, bullet on the cartridge. Primer goes off, shoves the bullet into the barrel. He unloads the piece, next day he loads it with a blank. Blank charge fires into barrel, pushes it out with enough velocity to kill Lee.
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I figured someone would come by with a correction. Thanks.

 

[ZRT]

I figured someone would come by with a correction. Thanks.

Object lesson in why you should have people who know what they're doing when you're messing about with this kind of stuff. When you're talking about a production where you're actually pointing a weapon at somebody, you need a pro signing off on things.

Speaking of, it was mentioned earlier in the thread, but it can't be repeated enough.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE GUN IS LOADED OR UNLOADED.

You do NOT point it at anything you can't afford to put a bullet into. That includes your big screen TV, the family pet, or your bound and gagged lover.

 

[Netzach]

i don't understand gun "play." but then, i don't understand rape "play" either. the way my brain works, these things would be utterly pointless and silly to me without being absolutely real. so, while i can understand the use of a gun as a tool to create fear, trust, power, and many other things...i cannot understand the use of a fake gun that cannot be loaded as a tool to create what...sexual excitement??

but again that's just my weirdness. have no desire to stare down the barrel of a gun personally, but if someone were to subject me to this, it would have to very much be real and serious and not at all fun and kink and games.

Who said you'd know anything about this process? (you generic, my bottom who's expressed OMG, pointing a gun in my face SOOO hot)

I'm very good at making my business my business. And letting the bottom think I'm capable of anything.

However, I'm so not into manslaughter/murder II prison play. So I've cooked up the contingencies that would make this workable for me. What the other participant knows or doesn't could vary a lot.

None of the people I personally have to deal with read this, so, I posted.

 

[neci]

back when i was a teenager, i had a friend who almost lost his balls due to gun play. stupid mother fucker though it would be cool. that's all i'm saying on this one.

 

[Lobo_8]

I'm all for doing what your partner wants as long as it can be done safely. In this instance that means NOT using a real firearm. I'm in the Army and I only point a weapon in 2 directions. Safe directions and at the thing I'm gona kill. If you lover falls into this category there are bigger issues you need to deal with.

That said, airsoft weapons were mentioned earlier. I think those are a great idea. Even if one goes of at point blank, in the eye, the damage isn't permanent. Your eye will swell, and it will be almost impossible to see, but no permanent damage and maybe you learned something about safety of firearms.

-Burns

 

[Cattypuss]

The Gun Thing - Eddie Izzard

 

[popcorn2721]

I thank all of you for your information. I agree with the idea of making the weapon unusable. Removing the firing pin, caulk in the magazine well, good ideas. What about prop weapons. Toy guns painted to resemble real firearms? Is that a practical practice or would that not create the fear required due to weight, look, and feel? I guess the biggest reason I'm opposed to this is because about a year ago I had a Negligent Discharge of my pistol. Fortunately no one was hurt due to the round type being a hollow point.

Thank you all again for the information.

-Burns

you could buy an airsoft pistol (which looks real even though its plastic). I would place some steel in the grip to add some weight to it.

I never had an accidental discharge but I don't play with my guns either. I can see how someone can get off on the danger factor. I treat unloaded guns like they are loaded @ all times (unloaded guns are the ones that accidentally kill people).

 

[nh23]

I've only did this once. However I was raised around guns and took my first gun safety course when I was a child. So did my partner. He or I neither one are dumb enough to do something totally unsafe.

With that being said the comments in this thread are why I rarely post the more hard core things we've been known to do. It's why I never post my fantasy's. I can understand stressing safety. But everyone is not a bloody idiot.

On the other hand like I said I only did it once, and I could care less if I ever did it again.

 

[Homburg]

I don't think someone is stupid if they do this. _I_ won't do it. Different idea. I draw the line hard and heavy at two things: lack of informed consent, and leaving someone bound alone. Everything else is arguable.

 

[nh23]

I don't think someone is stupid if they do this. _I_ won't do it. Different idea. I draw the line hard and heavy at two things: lack of informed consent, and leaving someone bound alone. Everything else is arguable.

I know with you silly goose!

 

[ZRT]

I've only did this once. However I was raised around guns and took my first gun safety course when I was a child. So did my partner. He or I neither one are dumb enough to do something totally unsafe.

With that being said the comments in this thread are why I rarely post the more hard core things we've been known to do. It's why I never post my fantasy's. I can understand stressing safety. But everyone is not a bloody idiot.

On the other hand like I said I only did it once, and I could care less if I ever did it again.

Well, the reason I'm so avid about it is that using a real gun violates the fundamental laws of gun safety that I learned from about the age of three onward- always treat every weapon like it's loaded, and hence never point it at anything you mind shooting.

That's as fundamental to me as breathing. BDSM is something I obviously got into later than three (six was where I first started getting that interest), and so Rules of Safe Gunhandling > than BDSM fun in my mind.

It's a very serious gut thing.

 

[neci]

I've only did this once. However I was raised around guns and took my first gun safety course when I was a child. So did my partner. He or I neither one are dumb enough to do something totally unsafe.

With that being said the comments in this thread are why I rarely post the more hard core things we've been known to do. It's why I never post my fantasy's. I can understand stressing safety. But everyone is not a bloody idiot.

On the other hand like I said I only did it once, and I could care less if I ever did it again.

i'm glad you posted. the guy i know who shot the other guy was an idiot. i think that there is a big difference in being stupid, and playing with different forms of danger in your sex life, when you have taken all of the different elements into consideration. that being said, i enjoy reading your posts and thoughts. as a high "I" on meyers briggs, i like listening to and reading things that make me think.

 

[Lobo_8]

I've only did this once. However I was raised around guns and took my first gun safety course when I was a child. So did my partner. He or I neither one are dumb enough to do something totally unsafe.

With that being said the comments in this thread are why I rarely post the more hard core things we've been known to do. It's why I never post my fantasy's. I can understand stressing safety. But everyone is not a bloody idiot.

On the other hand like I said I only did it once, and I could care less if I ever did it again.

I too am glad you posted, and would like to ask you directly if you feel the same danger element would be there if you new the weapon wasn't real (such as the airsoft idea, or a replica)?

-Burns

 

[nh23]

i'm glad you posted. the guy i know who shot the other guy was an idiot. i think that there is a big difference in being stupid, and playing with different forms of danger in your sex life, when you have taken all of the different elements into consideration. that being said, i enjoy reading your posts and thoughts. as a high "I" on meyers briggs, i like listening to and reading things that make me think.

Thank you. I said this in another thread and I'll say it here too. R.A.C.K.

 

[nh23]

I too am glad you posted, and would like to ask you directly if you feel the same danger element would be there if you new the weapon wasn't real (such as the airsoft idea, or a replica)?

-Burns

Yes, if it's done right. People have actually robbed banks with their finger in their pocket and the threat of a gun. The only important element is that your bottom thinks it's a dangerous situation.

 

[neci]

you could buy an airsoft pistol (which looks real even though its plastic). I would place some steel in the grip to add some weight to it.

how much does it sting and what kind of bruising (if any) does it leave?
hmmmm....

 

[popcorn2721]

how much does it sting and what kind of bruising (if any) does it leave?
hmmmm....

Well, from personal experience it does sting...left a small bruse but nothing that you wont get over. These fire plastic shot at 200ft/second and as you can imagine they will cost you an eye if your not careful with them (even though they are marketed as safe for indoor use Ive seen plenty of ricochets that could cost someone an eye).
I was actually suggesting merely using them as a prop, though.