" Hair Metal" vs Grunge

Grunge or Hair Metal?

  • Hair Metal

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • Grunge

    Votes: 12 57.1%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .
I don't have to apologize for KANSAS. They were awesome.

I don't think Head East ever made it offshore.



Lawrence Rocks (chalk Jayhawk)!
 
Check out these documentaries. I agree with Lita Ford..there is NO real kick ass music scene anymore !! WTF ??
It's all kiddie POP. At that time the "M" in MTV actually meant something, I loved MTV back then. Now it's just a politically-driven machine. A way to poison teenager's minds against Conservatism. "Hey, we're MTV!! Be cool and join us as a liberal, or be a POS, and have no friends!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUrHVWa3s2Y&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTpba2FDrSs

It's too bad you've not found you musical niche.

Do us all a favour and quit complaining. Fucks sake.
 
Check out these documentaries. I agree with Lita Ford..there is NO real kick ass music scene anymore !! WTF ??
I'll disagree with that. There's a shitload of very heavy metal, progressive rock and symphony rock out there that puts some of the 70s and 80s stuff to shame.

Now it's just a politically-driven machine. A way to poison teenager's minds against Conservatism. "Hey, we're MTV!! Be cool and join us as a liberal, or be a POS, and have no friends!"

But since you're a worthless BB .....
 
Hair metal or grunge blah blah blah. They are both fucking great and both fucking rocknroll. What happened? MTV stopped spoon feeding folks music and now they dont want to go search for it because they are fat lazy fucks. Or maybe they just died. Go watch Fox news or Vanderplump Rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_iHc_z-G8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exm5hFRo1P0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F5xdpeE1Kw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHpV08wI-bw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2oJ4vOftR8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1cRSpSk5D4

How many guys could hit those extreme high notes.
Mark Slaughter, Tom Keifer, and Sabastian Bach comes to mind. Who else ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZj3ljodlZs
 
I'll probably check the other posts later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_BxbATErEs THIS SONG REALLY ROCKS!!! I remember when this song hit MTV in 1992, these guys were so awesome now no one from my generation even remembers Hardline. This song was the last great single of the hair band era, struggling to breathe under the weight of the depressing and un-melodic thuds of grunge. The record companies pushed grunge on us.
Sounds like the Scorpions: another band that I wasn't into. Nothing specific to criticise—just not into it. Sorry.

I remember being instantly hooked on to the song when I first heard it. How these guys did not rise to the top I will never know. Incredible musicians, with great songs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=A2vG-zlvvk0
I thought it was going to be a cover of Alphaville. :D

Again, they're competent, nice hair, and it sounds a bit, intense(?), but again, I was listening to other suff. (Thanks for trying. :))



Have the folks down under yet to properly apologize for Midnight Oil and INXS?



:devil: :D
Leave it be. They were in the long, long, ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLm3Khusq_8

3 songs from Australia I like a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugA5bLqivkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_UCks8O0FA

Australia has them, Canada has Tragically Hip, and US has R.E.M (back when Stipe could have qualified for a hair band).

It'd post the original video, but it seems Thomas Ellard's being a bit of a prick.

All Saints Day 2015 USA Tour Severed Heads
4:27

No Silverchair. I cannot in good conscience inflict such on you good people.

Another valuable Australian export:
Nicole Kidman - ULTIMATE ASS CUMPILATION (2017
05:20



[size=+1]presumably Byron Bay, presumably in Australia[/size]

(for bigger pic)
https://66.media.tumblr.com/97b34dcc6040709cb9e74d9ec6b65641/tumblr_pjaesxl8IQ1xj1y6uo1_1280.png

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【ナンダコーレ】111 BOADRUM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XcDBLJaN08
3:00 ...



Hair metal or grunge blah blah blah. ...,
names.
descriptions, perhaps.
particularly if there are many.

I clicked your first link and the first few 10s of seconds sound at least okay.



I don't have to apologize for KANSAS. They were awesome.
SpeareChucker, we rarely agree, but this is one of the times we do.

Nothing equals the splendor.



How many guys could hit those extreme high notes.
Mark Slaughter, Tom Keifer, and Sabastian Bach comes to mind. Who else ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZj3ljodlZs
not bad.

(David Coverdale and Ian Gillan, at least in their prime)



Range is overrated. If you like range listen to Ween.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnoNuWRDGRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PAzqBUNlCs :D












Before there was grunge (though a bit concurrent to it too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tzFR6qITMc




[size=+2]What I currently prefer to most grunge and hair metal:[/size]


YouTube comments:

[size=-2]poetryjesus
I need to find out how she rigged that giant sheet of metal into an instrument its blowing my mind

Al Quinn
lol, guy at 8:53, i would have needed to change my pants

TheAnalPunisher
half angel, half demon

Jurkass2
oh man that one guy headbanging at the end

Jose Mourinho
is she grimes on steroid?

Logan Wendt
Steroids? Nah. More like heroin.

No soy gay amigos lo juro
Grimes on Cocaine

Old Heart Records
I LOVE how she is definitely screaming through a slowly dying voice.... I hope she has some tea after the show...

PolichinelaAzul. s.XIX
Wow!!! xpectacular live...brutal

Davi T
Dude, this is amazing!

ihopethisworks34
lol I like how some of the hipsters are bobbing their heads to it like it's some rock music, different kind of listening experience I think[/size]


(click pic to hear performance)

 
Sounds like the Scorpions: another band that I wasn't into. Nothing specific to criticise—just not into it. Sorry.


I thought it was going to be a cover of Alphaville. :D

Again, they're competent, nice hair, and it sounds a bit, intense(?), but again, I was listening to other suff. (Thanks for trying. :))




Leave it be. They were in the long, long, ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLm3Khusq_8

3 songs from Australia I like a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugA5bLqivkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_UCks8O0FA

Australia has them, Canada has Tragically Hip, and US has R.E.M (back when Stipe could have qualified for a hair band).

It'd post the original video, but it seems Thomas Ellard's being a bit of a prick.

All Saints Day 2015 USA Tour Severed Heads
4:27

No Silverchair. I cannot in good conscience inflict such on you good people.

Another valuable Australian export:
Nicole Kidman - ULTIMATE ASS CUMPILATION (2017
05:20



[size=+1]presumably Byron Bay, presumably in Australia[/size]






names.
descriptions, perhaps.
particularly if there are many.

I clicked your first link and the first few 10s of seconds sound at least okay.




SpeareChucker, we rarely agree, but this is one of the times we do.

Nothing equals the splendor.




not bad.

(David Coverdale and Ian Gillan, at least in their prime)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PAzqBUNlCs :D












Before there was grunge (though a bit concurrent to it too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tzFR6qITMc




[size=+2]What I currently prefer to most grunge and hair metal:[/size]



YouTube comments:

[size=-2]poetryjesus
I need to find out how she rigged that giant sheet of metal into an instrument its blowing my mind

Al Quinn
lol, guy at 8:53, i would have needed to change my pants

TheAnalPunisher
half angel, half demon

Jurkass2
oh man that one guy headbanging at the end

Jose Mourinho
is she grimes on steroid?

Logan Wendt
Steroids? Nah. More like heroin.

No soy gay amigos lo juro
Grimes on Cocaine

Old Heart Records
I LOVE how she is definitely screaming through a slowly dying voice.... I hope she has some tea after the show...

PolichinelaAzul. s.XIX
Wow!!! xpectacular live...brutal

Davi T
Dude, this is amazing!

ihopethisworks34
lol I like how some of the hipsters are bobbing their heads to it like it's some rock music, different kind of listening experience I think[/size]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=-qBg1cWpaEE Vince Neil , my future husband at age 15. He was so sexy back then.
 
When grunge came in, rather than it being more about the music, it became even more about "the look". Musicianship and musicality went totally down the toilet. I admit that i miss the 80's/early90's with a passion! I was a teen in this era LATE80S/EARLY90S. Everyone was happy.....the music was happy and upbeat.....and the occasional power ballad to get over you first boyfriend. Great music not to remind you of your problems.....but to make you feel good, laugh, and enjoy life! Teen Spirit hit in the fall of 1991. It wasn't an overnight thing, but 1992 saw a quick rise in the grunge bands. I remember noticing how depressing music became around that time. Around 1994, I remember Korn, Wu Tang Clan, Dr Dre, Tool, and Nine Inch Nails on heavy rotation on MTV. The 90s became an angry time, and many of those grungies died of heroin overdoses. Go to a bar today and what do you hear? Poison, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue etc. Party songs. You won't be hearing Nirvana covers. And everyone wore flannels and wallowed in self pity back then.

How do we go from bands like Guns N Roses, Metallica, Iron Maiden, Motley Crue doing sold out stadium gigs of tens of thousands to not even finding a mention of metal in popular culture? A lot of modern metal has just gotten too radio unfriendly to get a lot of mainstream attention and air-time. Screaming vocals turn a lot of people off.
80's/early90's were golden age of metal? There were a ton of good metal bands in the 80's. Abundance of bands were releasing almost consistently awesome albums. The 80's/early 90's was the best time for metal because it was everywhere, the age was metal. Stadium tours, albums in the charts, the era of high sales, magazines, fan clubs. So many amazing underground bands were still out there. Iron Maiden, Motley Crue, Poison, Def Leppard, Guns n Roses, Metallica, Bon Jovi, Dio and Ozzy were kings! .

I resent that Nirvana were practically overnight anointed the teacher's pet of MTV and the music industry, at the expense of a lot of other Heavy Metal bands who were instantly blackballed. This was a major change from the 80's/early 90s where MTV catered to all different audiences a little bit with their programming and specialty shows like Yo MTV Raps and Headbangers Ball. Then MTV instantly threw that all away when they crowned Nirvana. God, they still make the emergence of Nirvana seem like the Beatles appearing on Ed Sullivan or some shit and sorry folks I just do not see it. I hated the way the situation was handled and the way the band was managed and propped up and I always will.And so many bands followed the Nirvana formula. Guitar starts off clean, the singer sounds like he just woke up and has a hangover, then the distortion kicks in and all you hear is screaming screaming and more screaming. The only guitar solo sounds like someone is castrating a bull, and you can't understand a word the singer is saying. Weird Al did a perfect video of smells like Nirvana. Even tho he has just joking around like he always does he was telling the truth in that video. After grunge exploded it carried over into post grunge then to nu metal. And because of that that's why we have rap,pop,and indie style of music are on the charts. Glam metal musicians were honest. At least they could play guitar. What's the last song that even resembles a Rock anthem?

I disagree with grunge being enamored by "a look". I won't argue that grunge busted dad's old flannels and tattered jeans. But, that was only a byproduct of the the overall package. Now I'm not saying KC was the musical talented person in the world, but he could write some lyrics. That, to me, is the single most important part of the song. Musicality, of course, is the other most important part of the song. Hand and hand. I mean come on, 'UN skinny bop' 'girls girls girls'?? They played music to fucking garbage lyrics. That is one reason grunge music bitch slapped hair metal. I'm not saying all the bands wrote shit lyrics, but they all had shit lyric songs. So did grunge, but not as thought out and executed like hair bands.
 
Good Iord, am I the only poster on this board who has heard of Greta Van Fleet????
 
Sounds like the Scorpions: another band that I wasn't into. Nothing specific to criticise—just not into it. Sorry.


I thought it was going to be a cover of Alphaville. :D

Again, they're competent, nice hair, and it sounds a bit, intense(?), but again, I was listening to other suff. (Thanks for trying. :))




Leave it be. They were in the long, long, ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLm3Khusq_8

3 songs from Australia I like a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugA5bLqivkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_UCks8O0FA

Australia has them, Canada has Tragically Hip, and US has R.E.M (back when Stipe could have qualified for a hair band).

It'd post the original video, but it seems Thomas Ellard's being a bit of a prick.

All Saints Day 2015 USA Tour Severed Heads
4:27

No Silverchair. I cannot in good conscience inflict such on you good people.

Another valuable Australian export:
Nicole Kidman - ULTIMATE ASS CUMPILATION (2017
05:20



[size=+1]presumably Byron Bay, presumably in Australia[/size]






names.
descriptions, perhaps.
particularly if there are many.

I clicked your first link and the first few 10s of seconds sound at least okay.




SpeareChucker, we rarely agree, but this is one of the times we do.

Nothing equals the splendor.




not bad.

(David Coverdale and Ian Gillan, at least in their prime)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PAzqBUNlCs :D












Before there was grunge (though a bit concurrent to it too):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tzFR6qITMc




[size=+2]What I currently prefer to most grunge and hair metal:[/size]



YouTube comments:

[size=-2]poetryjesus
I need to find out how she rigged that giant sheet of metal into an instrument its blowing my mind

Al Quinn
lol, guy at 8:53, i would have needed to change my pants

TheAnalPunisher
half angel, half demon

Jurkass2
oh man that one guy headbanging at the end

Jose Mourinho
is she grimes on steroid?

Logan Wendt
Steroids? Nah. More like heroin.

No soy gay amigos lo juro
Grimes on Cocaine

Old Heart Records
I LOVE how she is definitely screaming through a slowly dying voice.... I hope she has some tea after the show...

PolichinelaAzul. s.XIX
Wow!!! xpectacular live...brutal

Davi T
Dude, this is amazing!

ihopethisworks34
lol I like how some of the hipsters are bobbing their heads to it like it's some rock music, different kind of listening experience I think[/size]

Check out this one. What Sebastian Bach did here was a tribute and he did it in his own style...which absolutely rocks! The way he rocks that last chorus is electric and everyone there was lucky to hear it. I love Bach. One of best rock vocalists you'll ever hear. You can see that the entire band was having a blast while playing with Seb. Sebastian was so damn beautiful! Sebastian was hot! He still got it going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=auFu8hqwF0A
 
Texas Grunge....




I also think Grunge and Hair both helped spawn Nu-Metal.....which was better than both it's predecessors.



Hair was also directly responsible for groove....which is practically a national treasure.



Which has progressed into Djent which contains arguably some of the most incredible guitar work of ALL FUCKING TIME.



And these varieties of metal....thrash, hair, groove, Numetal, Metalcore, Djent....all that shit can be run back to 1 man in 1977 who forever changed the face of rock n' roll.

Edward Lodewijk Van Halen


Thank you Eddie for inspiring generations of the greatest shredders to ever live!!
 
I'm still waiting (perhaps in vain) for Eddie to put out an instrumental-only album where he can let his guitar do the talking and not have to worry about whatever lead singer is part of the band.

Edward Lodewijk Van Halen


Thank you Eddie for inspiring generations of the greatest shredders to ever live!!
 
I'm still waiting (perhaps in vain) for Eddie to put out an instrumental-only album where he can let his guitar do the talking and not have to worry about whatever lead singer is part of the band.

An instrumental VH album would be sick....IDK if it will ever happen though.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=-qBg1cWpaEE Vince Neil , my future husband at age 15. He was so sexy back then.
I'm not particularly into hair metal, but I admire your passion. :)



I disagree with grunge being enamored by "a look". I won't argue that grunge busted dad's old flannels and tattered jeans. But, that was only a byproduct of the the overall package. Now I'm not saying KC was the musical talented person in the world, but he could write some lyrics. That, to me, is the single most important part of the song. Musicality, of course, is the other most important part of the song. Hand and hand. I mean come on, 'UN skinny bop' 'girls girls girls'?? They played music to fucking garbage lyrics. That is one reason grunge music bitch slapped hair metal. I'm not saying all the bands wrote shit lyrics, but they all had shit lyric songs. So did grunge, but not as thought out and executed like hair bands.
I'm not so sure. Hair metal had a good run. I suppose a lot of women liked it. Grunge had a shorter run.

My tastes can be pretty idiosyncratic. I never liked Smells like Teen Spirit (at least their studio version and most covers), yet I like this.



I honestly thought it was a chick singing at first.

[size=+2]Lez Zeppelin[/size]

...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lez_Zeppelin

Lez Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love - live Cologne 2007 - by b-light.tv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKe5_GXsxj4
11:18
274,603 views

Lez Zeppelin performing "Whole Lotta Love"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YxObEPlR-U
9:02
189,460 views

Lez Zeppelin performing 'Whole Lotta Love'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAjkrO9NeQ
5:42
18,854 views

Lez Zeppelin "Going To California" Live at J&R Music World NYC (4/16/2011)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBMggTvxbw
4:37
111,918 views



[size=+2]Zepparella[/size]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zepparella

(she uses a bow during part of the song)

【Zepparella】 Dazed And Confused (Sweetwater Music Hall - 6/23/18)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmoimRsbJZ0
12:58
6,951 views

Zepparella Dazed and Confused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CfoloqtFhI
11:17
952,751 views

Zepparella 2012 - Dazed And Confused
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVvSfVQqT_M
11:17
190,639 views

Zepparella - Ramble On (Bing Lounge)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-EakzxmO-o
5:03
700,886 views

Zepparella - Ramble On - 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmn0wWTtNQw
5:53
298,798 views

...
:D :D :D



Good Iord, am I the only poster on this board who has heard of Greta Van Fleet????
Nope.

Best rock band. I'm obsessed with them.

Greta Van Fleet

https://youtu.be/aJg4OJxp-co Highway Tune

https://youtu.be/86_vnQc1oBE When The Curtain Falls

Be prepared.
The video's kinda neat—the face and the halo.



I've read the name of this band, but never got around to checking them out until now. They do sound very much like Led Zeppelin—carrying the baton and running with it well.

I already have a songs that make you think of Joni Mitchell (mostly besides songs by Joni herself) thread. I was thinking of similar for Björk, but I might make the next thread: "songs that make you think of Led Zeppelin (mostly besides songs by the group itself or solo members)"—though in this one, I might have covers particularly as I have a lot of women covering Zeppelin songs in my pronoun thread.
...

The Nazi also created a thread about them:
These new Led Zeppelin songs are great!



[size=+1]Here's a sufficiently weird cover of a Zeppelin song (and one I like a lot):[/size]

(click pic to hear song)





Check out this one. What Sebastian Bach did here was a tribute and he did it in his own style...which absolutely rocks! The way he rocks that last chorus is electric and everyone there was lucky to hear it. I love Bach. One of best rock vocalists you'll ever hear. You can see that the entire band was having a blast while playing with Seb. Sebastian was so damn beautiful! Sebastian was hot! He still got it going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=auFu8hqwF0A
For a long time I regarded SB as a jerk, especially with his "If you think you stink," comment. He singing is at least adquate and yes, he was quite attractive (speaking as a het male). Yes, the screaming 3:32 to (about) 3:48 is good.

Now for some comparisons if anyone cares. :D

Alice In Chains - Man in the Box (Official Video)
4:31
81,966,821 views

Man In The Box - Gabriela Gunčíková - Alice In Chains-COVER-Layne Staley - Ken Tamplin Vocal Academy
4:14
363,650 views



Texas Grunge....

The lyrics sound dumb, but the music's great. :D



I'll comment on the others later.
 
Texas Grunge....




I also think Grunge and Hair both helped spawn Nu-Metal.....which was better than both it's predecessors.



Hair was also directly responsible for groove....which is practically a national treasure.



Which has progressed into Djent which contains arguably some of the most incredible guitar work of ALL FUCKING TIME.



And these varieties of metal....thrash, hair, groove, Numetal, Metalcore, Djent....all that shit can be run back to 1 man in 1977 who forever changed the face of rock n' roll.

Edward Lodewijk Van Halen


Thank you Eddie for inspiring generations of the greatest shredders to ever live!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=VvyBiHGr2b8 This is my favorite DOKKEN song. I love this song! Dokken rocks!
 
I disagree with grunge being enamored by "a look". I won't argue that grunge busted dad's old flannels and tattered jeans. But, that was only a byproduct of the the overall package. Now I'm not saying KC was the musical talented person in the world, but he could write some lyrics. That, to me, is the single most important part of the song. Musicality, of course, is the other most important part of the song. Hand and hand. I mean come on, 'UN skinny bop' 'girls girls girls'?? They played music to fucking garbage lyrics. That is one reason grunge music bitch slapped hair metal. I'm not saying all the bands wrote shit lyrics, but they all had shit lyric songs. So did grunge, but not as thought out and executed like hair bands.

Critics always focused way too much on how "pretty" the band members were, bands like Cinderella, Warrant, Poison, they basically forgot the music. I don't exactly hear teens today listening to "Hair" metal music which kinda saddens me. I think more teens today should be more appreciative of good old rock/heavy metal bands. If it wasn't for def leppard, warrant, bon jovi, ratt, quiet riot, white snake, ozzy, kiss, and even Micheal Jackson mtv would have never made it, so what does mtv do to all those bands, they shit on all of them, mtv sucks What bothers me about a channel like MTV is that when something is popular they regard it as being 'good,' but then they'll marginalize that same stuff they made a fortune off of when its no longer considered cool. Hypocrisy and unfairness in the mainstream media bothers me more than the music I don't like.
 
I was 15 year old in 1992 grunge broke big and can remember listening to it on the radio and seeing the videos on mtv and thinking "why do so many of these people only want to talk about being depressed and hating life?", then I remember the day kurt cobain committed suicide and the massive overreaction it got as if it was somehow this unexpected event despite the fact he'd tried to off himself two or three times in the previous year or so (all of which had been widely reported on) yet my peers all expected me to care as if it mattered to me in the slightest regardless of the fact I hated his music and didn't care for the grunge fad at alll. All those "alternative / Grunge Bands" also copied each other & a lot of my friends were even selling out to them. Im like WOW you guys were putting down Poison & Slaughter & THEN talk highly of Nirvana & Pearl Jam!? WTF? That's how I felt about the 90's. Just a bunch of bands cloning each other and a majority having boring, annoying whiny vocalists. Glam metal bands still had plenty of fans, but the industry embraced the whole alternative/grunge scene at that time, and milked that dry too. What annoys me is how people don't take 80s Heavy Metal seriously because of how the bands looked. If you go back and look, there was some KILLER hard rock/metal that came out in the early to mid 90's that largely went unnoticed. Skid Row's "Slave to The Grind" was amazing! The Coverdale/Page album, I still play to this day! Brother Kane put out some amazing stuff! Badlands was great! Poison put out a criminally underrated album in "Native Tongue." Warrant was doing great stuff. Winger was great! I could go on and on. The 90's" bands didn't last that long. After 1995 "grunge" died faster than hair metal. Think about it. During grunge Aerosmith, Def Leppard,The Scorpions, Bon Jovi just name a few had massive hits and sold a ton of records.
 
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