Happy Easter! Trump Attempts To Recite "The Lord's Prayer"

[Fuzzy1975]

He tries so hard, though

Jay must suffer from constipation. He'll come in and dump a day or two of shit posting, then disappear for a week or two...I can't imagine having bowels like that...writing bowels reminded me of one of our regular rwcj posters who kept spelling it as bowls

 

[JaySecrets]

No, they do not coexist nicely:



LOL, now you've just proved you need to go back and re study, what you claimed to have studied. Fuck I don't think you even know who Friedrich Engels even is.....

Marxist meaning: A Marxist is someone who strongly agrees with the political, economic, and philosophical ideas of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. If you're a Marxist, you're especially critical of capitalism.

socialist meaning: Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership. It describes the economic, political, and social theories and movements associated with the implementation of such systems.

If you have actually studied either, you will see why they do not belong together....

This one is so easy that I have to at least give you a few quotes before I go... So I present to you Karl Marx and Frederick ingalls on capitalism on private property ownership and on public ownership of property. You just said the two do not mix. Let's see what they said, shall we?

Karl Marx...
As a result, Marx argues, a market in private property not only creates industry; it also creates the most oppressive class structure in history. When property is private, the owners do not have to think of their workers as people, not even as inferior people as the feudal aristocrats thought of the peasants.


A quote about Karl Marx belief by the human rights library, a openly socialist organization that pushes for the end of capitalism and so on and so forth...
Marx believed that if all property were owned in common, and each member of society had an equal share, that it would prevent the division of society into two classes: those who produce and those who gain from the sale of those products.

And I bet you respect Yale law because you respect and support very liberal and socialist universities. So hey, let's go with what Yale law says about what Marx believed about private property...

Marx said that private property is theft. In the Marxist vision of reality, to own something is to have stolen it from someone.

And how about this for another quote about what? Marx believed...

Marx wanted freedom without independence. He wanted to take the older notion of freedom to be free from domination, but also to make it compatible with a system in which we are dependent upon one another and upon large-scale social cooperation.


And one more fun quote from Marx...

Marx stated clearly that "the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."


And what about your buddy Frederick Engels?

In his 1884 book The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, Friedrich Engels argued that the family, private property, and the state are social constructs that developed in response to changing economic and social conditions. Engels applied the Marxist notion of Historical Materialism to understand the family as a social institution. He saw the family, in the context of private property and capitalism, as the driving force subjugating women and promoting male dominance.

Seems to me the distinction between communism and Marxism and socialism just got really blurred right there. Not by your theories but by these theories and statements of those you seem to think are so different from socialism. The goals were the same. They said so. You are denying what they said and that's willful ignorance. Now one more quote because let's contrast what they said with what the founders of America had in view for this country. What made America great at least economically. The biggest influence or arguably one of the biggest influences was a guy named John Locke... Let's see what he said about private property....

John Locke proposes his theory of property rights in The Second Treatise of Government (1690). The theory is rooted in laws of nature that Locke identifies, which permit individuals to appropriate, and exercise control rights over, things in the world, like land and other material resources.

So we have a conflict of world views. One worldview says that we should eliminate private property and give everything to the control of the state who will then distribute it as needed to those who need it or however you want to put it. That's communism. That's Marxism. That's socialism. They are one in the same as just demonstrated. On the other hand, you have the philosophy of freedom and individual liberty as proposed by John Locke. I choose freedom and individual liberty. You can choose freedom by social adaptation or put another way, Freedom is found in slavery if we are going to quote 1984.

And with this, I actually have proven that you're fundamental philosophy that drives everything else is flawed and dangerous and therefore I really don't need to say anything else. Have fun with this guys. Hope you can explain away the teachings of your gods.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This one is so easy that I have to at least give you a few quotes before I go...

Again, you need to go back and re read it. Similar with dissimilar ideals is not co existing.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This one is so easy that I have to at least give you a few quotes before I go... So I present to you Karl Marx and Frederick ingalls on capitalism on private property ownership and on public ownership of property. You just said the two do not mix. Let's see what they said, shall we?

Karl Marx...
As a result, Marx argues, a market in private property not only creates industry; it also creates the most oppressive class structure in history. When property is private, the owners do not have to think of their workers as people, not even as inferior people as the feudal aristocrats thought of the peasants.


A quote about Karl Marx belief by the human rights library, a openly socialist organization that pushes for the end of capitalism and so on and so forth...
Marx believed that if all property were owned in common, and each member of society had an equal share, that it would prevent the division of society into two classes: those who produce and those who gain from the sale of those products.

And I bet you respect Yale law because you respect and support very liberal and socialist universities. So hey, let's go with what Yale law says about what Marx believed about private property...

Marx said that private property is theft. In the Marxist vision of reality, to own something is to have stolen it from someone.

And how about this for another quote about what? Marx believed...

Marx wanted freedom without independence. He wanted to take the older notion of freedom to be free from domination, but also to make it compatible with a system in which we are dependent upon one another and upon large-scale social cooperation.


And one more fun quote from Marx...

Marx stated clearly that "the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."


And what about your buddy Frederick Engels?

In his 1884 book The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, Friedrich Engels argued that the family, private property, and the state are social constructs that developed in response to changing economic and social conditions. Engels applied the Marxist notion of Historical Materialism to understand the family as a social institution. He saw the family, in the context of private property and capitalism, as the driving force subjugating women and promoting male dominance.

Seems to me the distinction between communism and Marxism and socialism just got really blurred right there. Not by your theories but by these theories and statements of those you seem to think are so different from socialism. The goals were the same. They said so. You are denying what they said and that's willful ignorance. Now one more quote because let's contrast what they said with what the founders of America had in view for this country. What made America great at least economically. The biggest influence or arguably one of the biggest influences was a guy named John Locke... Let's see what he said about private property....

John Locke proposes his theory of property rights in The Second Treatise of Government (1690). The theory is rooted in laws of nature that Locke identifies, which permit individuals to appropriate, and exercise control rights over, things in the world, like land and other material resources.

So we have a conflict of world views. One worldview says that we should eliminate private property and give everything to the control of the state who will then distribute it as needed to those who need it or however you want to put it. That's communism. That's Marxism. That's socialism. They are one in the same as just demonstrated. On the other hand, you have the philosophy of freedom and individual liberty as proposed by John Locke. I choose freedom and individual liberty. You can choose freedom by social adaptation or put another way, Freedom is found in slavery if we are going to quote 1984.

And with this, I actually have proven that you're fundamental philosophy that drives everything else is flawed and dangerous and therefore I really don't need to say anything else. Have fun with this guys. Hope you can explain away the teachings of your gods.

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Showing you never went to College or University, without using those words....

 

[Fuzzy1975]

before I go...

Yall don't come back soon!!!

 

[stxjimmy]

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Showing you never went to College or University, without using those words....

Coming here to educate members about Marx and ingalls, so heroic.
Might be best to actually read them though.

 

[Lazaran]

We have in Wisconsin a very very liberal supreme Court and it has not been willing to handle a lot of things that don't go along with their ideology.

You are a liar, an idiot, or both.

Guess which one of those three choices my money is on…



FACT:

Wisconsin’s Supreme Court had been under the radical far right conservative’s control for the past 15 YEARS before Janet Protaciewicz swung the balance back to a nonpartisan majority in the fall of 2023.

The radical far right conservatives on the Wisconsin Supreme Court were in charge for the 2020 election, and, among other heinous acts, they approved the radical right wing conservative legislature’s farcically gerrymandered maps which made a mockery of representative government.



JFC

SAD!!!

 

[butters]

fox host calls out tim burchett (TN) for making a comment that transgenderism is a mental illness:

Representative Tim Burchett of Tennessee appeared on Mornings with Maria Bartiromo on Monday, where he was asked about the backlash against Joe Biden's celebration of the Transgender Day of Visibility on Easter Sunday.

Discussing the issue further, he then said: "See military recruitment down because of this, this movement. They're pushing through the budget, continuation of surgeries on transgenders.

"You know, this thing is, it's, it's a mental illness. We just gotta address it. It's it's not a, it's not a normal type lifestyle, and, I can't be more against what the president did.

"And I don't know what you're saying in terms of mental illness. I have no idea what you're talking about in that regard," Bartiromo said.

shit, when even she steps in to contradict—well, ok, she doesn't actually contradict, it wasn't a strong 'it's not mental illness'—to weakly deny knowledge of his premise, you know fox is wary of being sued again

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...p&cvid=bd3fa1da40fa4447b2eff9e4b1019776&ei=67