hate him

well, there is that too. but no, it wasn't pee. just good ol' cunt juice.

(I had plans for pee, but... we parted before that happened.)
 
*raises hand for the prefers soap to pee section of the room*

But the thought of wadding up piss soaked panties for a gag....

I better stick around this thread.
 
FungiUg said:
well, there is that too. but no, it wasn't pee. just good ol' cunt juice.

(I had plans for pee, but... we parted before that happened.)

lol well you probably wouldn't be into kissing someone gagging and coughing from soap in the mouth either.... but it works as reminder for smartness, for the most part. ;)

Pee is a reward, isn't it? giggles
 
There's a lovely bottle of Gewurtztraminer here made at Putahahi Estate, labelled P. No joke. And yes, I have walked into a wine store and said straight faced "I'd like a bottle of P, please." :D
 
lark sparrow said:
lol well you probably wouldn't be into kissing someone gagging and coughing from soap in the mouth either.... but it works as reminder for smartness, for the most part. ;)

Pee is a reward, isn't it? giggles

No, I like to think ahead, so I wouldn't use soap in someone's mouth if I planned on kissing her. I usually have a rough outline of a session planned in my head before it happens, so I can fit in appropriate elements for punishments.

Pee as a reward... you mean allowing her to pee? That was generally a "let me think about it" moment...
 
FungiUg said:
There's a lovely bottle of Gewurtztraminer here made at Putahahi Estate, labelled P. No joke. And yes, I have walked into a wine store and said straight faced "I'd like a bottle of P, please." :D

That's right... and when I feel like a relatively cheap but decent red I ask for "Strong". (Rodney Strong.)
 
FungiUg said:
No, I like to think ahead, so I wouldn't use soap in someone's mouth if I planned on kissing her. I usually have a rough outline of a session planned in my head before it happens, so I can fit in appropriate elements for punishments.

Pee as a reward... you mean allowing her to pee? That was generally a "let me think about it" moment...

Well, do you plan on someone mouthing off?

Soap is good, really not a pleasant taste at all... missed that punishment entirely as a child, but have made up for it as time allows. :D

No, I mean consuming the Dominants pee as a reward.
 
Netzach said:
*raises hand for the prefers soap to pee section of the room*

But the thought of wadding up piss soaked panties for a gag....

I better stick around this thread.

Oooh nice direction... make her pee her pants and then use it as a gag.
 
lark sparrow said:
Well, do you plan on someone mouthing off?

Soap is good, really not a pleasant taste at all... missed that punishment entirely as a child, but have made up for it as time allows. :D

No, I mean consuming the Dominants pee as a reward.

No, I don't plan on someone mouthing off. Hasn't happened during a session though -- so I will have to wait and see what seems appropriate if it does happen during a session.

Soap... well, there are alternatives. I do kinda like 'Zach's idea of making a slut pee her (or his) panties and then wearing them in her mouth... nasty evil 'Zach! I knew I liked her!

Consuming Dominant's pee... again, I didn't get to pee play. Our last submissive was totally vanilla before she met us, so everything was a learning experience for her. I had so much I wanted to do (yes, including pee training), but life's like that...
 
lol well I admit to never having mouthed off during a formal session... sometimes words are difficult to form much less a snappy comeback... but if you are around the person a lot... it's bound to happen at some point even if not directly meant... at least for me until I know better lol.
 
lark sparrow said:
lol well I admit to never having mouthed off during a formal session... sometimes words are difficult to form much less a snappy comeback... but if you are around the person a lot... it's bound to happen at some point even if not directly meant... at least for me until I know better lol.

Yup... and that gives the Dominant time to come up with an appropriate punishment. Admittedly outside of a session, soap in the mouth might be more likely! (Assuming you are in close proximity.)
 
FungiUg said:
Yup... and that gives the Dominant time to come up with an appropriate punishment. Admittedly outside of a session, soap in the mouth might be more likely! (Assuming you are in close proximity.)

Yeah, I can't tell you too much about bars of soap as most of mine is in pumps in the bathroom and shower... but that is still wickedly gagging and coughing medicine lol.
 
wow, I leave for a couple hours and miss a very interesting conversation. I think i would also have to stand on the soap side of the soap vs. pee debate. Problem with anything like that though, I have a strong gag reflex...I don't know if I would be able to handle it without dry heaving...
 
I had some interesting thoughts concerning the first 10-15 posts but I forgot what they were before I reached the end of the thread.

A couple years ago, an ex-girlfriend had tried to explain the love/hate dynamics she was feeling as my submissive. Something clicked in my mind just a couple minutes ago but now I lost my train of thought.

Oh well, back to pee and soap. *shrugs*
 
lark sparrow said:
Yeah, I can't tell you too much about bars of soap as most of mine is in pumps in the bathroom and shower... but that is still wickedly gagging and coughing medicine lol.

Actually, yesterday I went out and bought groceries, including flowing soap for all of the bathrooms and toilets in our new house. So I'm all prepared for you now, lark! :D
 
hurtme said:
wow, I leave for a couple hours and miss a very interesting conversation. I think i would also have to stand on the soap side of the soap vs. pee debate. Problem with anything like that though, I have a strong gag reflex...I don't know if I would be able to handle it without dry heaving...

In a desperate way of trying to link this back to the main topic of conversation...

I think were you being made to gag on the taste of pee or soap, right at that point you would be hating your dominant... while at exactly the same point, you would be loving the fact that he can make you do this, the power and ownership displayed in making you do something you so absolutely loathe.

Love and hate, right there, all in the same moment.
 
I have a question. For both Doms and subs. Has any of you ever experienced the blurted out "i fucking hate you" during a scene...from a sub or if you are sub...wondering where in the hell those words came from and how you actually allowed them to escape from your mouth. Its happened to me more then once, when the Dom has been playing in my head and im lost, then get asked something that in no way i can answer or i am told to do something that my head cant make sense of. The hate you that comes from my mouth is not actually an "i hate you" at all, its kinda an "i love this please push me more" thing. Any Dom that i have been with when this happened sorta understood it and seemed to get a tremedous amount of pleasure from it. So i was just wondering if thats the kind of hate hurt me feels and was experessing at the begining of the thread. :rose:
 
Hmmm... it hasn't happened to me, but I have seem "that look" in a submissive's eyes when I have been tormenting her. "Shooting daggers"...

I think it would make me laugh, and yes I would understand where it was coming from. Of course, it would then become ammunition for further torture and punishment! :devil:
 
FungiUg said:
Hmmm... it hasn't happened to me, but I have seem "that look" in a submissive's eyes when I have been tormenting her. "Shooting daggers"...

I think it would make me laugh, and yes I would understand where it was coming from. Of course, it would then become ammunition for further torture and punishment! :devil:

LOL it always is ammunition,but your head doesnt remember that till about 3 seconds after the words escape your lips !
 
I think that's the whole point though -- the thrill of playing with a submissive's mind is to use her own mind and instincts against her, and to get her into a possition where no matter what she does, she knows it is just going to result in more...

Because that's the point where the inevitability of her doom makes her realise she IS owned, controlled, etc.
 
FungiUg said:
I think that's the whole point though -- the thrill of playing with a submissive's mind is to use her own mind and instincts against her, and to get her into a possition where no matter what she does, she knows it is just going to result in more...

Because that's the point where the inevitability of her doom makes her realise she IS owned, controlled, etc.

Smiles :p Hush now!
 
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