I thought we'd risen above this. I guess I was wrong.

[MechaBlade]

We all live in this community of ours. Our diversity making the soup all that much more delicious. It is the human condition to try to categorize and explain the variety we see around us. Any system of sorting and labeling is going to be biased by the creators of said list. Normal? Abnormal? The DSM is a book written by men. A flawed document useful only in that it can qualify you for some financial benefits from the welfare state, and possible for some laughs... I have read it... we all seem to have a number in there.

We can try to have it as accurate as possible. The only question I have is: Do homosexuality and other atypical (but very prevalent) human orientations qualify as a "disorder"?

Pointing no fingers at anyone other than the girl in the mirror... I cannot help but wonder if the "abnormality" of some of the kinky stuff makes it all that much more delicious. The "bad", the "forbidden", the "nasty", (feel free to add your favorite "naughty" word to the list.) all these things appeal to this girl. Thank god for societal labels and norms... flouting them is such a turn on.

If they made it all acceptable and normal it would be so much more boring. Netzach, you practice your art left handed, it must be all that much more enjoyable.

It doesn't, for me. I didn't like feeling shame for my fetishes (when I felt shame for them). I wish everyone shared my fetishes. Imagine what a beautiful world that would be.

 

[YourCaptor]

That's what I have been saying all along.

Aww, poor DB, talking to walls is no fun, and tends to make you go crazy too.

So, in light of crazyness, and just for kicks, here’s a list of mental disorders that do not need treatment.

the Job
Marriage
Kids
Crazy drivers
School
Everyone else
Gravity
Volcanoes
Video games
And of course, president Bush

Yes I know I'm and ass

 

[the_pet]

Ah, just what this thread needed: religion! Thank God I'm an atheist.

amen (snicker)

 

[rooky2]

If being natural is "in order"...

Posted by Mechablade: "Do homosexuality and other atypical (but very prevalent) human orientations qualify as a "disorder"?

... In 2001, I was doing my research when I was approached by a logger who said that he has lost respect for the PhDs? Smiling, I asked for the reason, and he said, " if a government or a wood based industry gives them the money, they will write and prove that the logging is good for the environment, give money to other PhDs (say by the environmentalists), and they will prove that logging is hazardous...so who to believe? Right and wrong is still decided by the money or powerful lobby...". The logger in his simplicity was right and wrong, right if we read the titles of the articles only, wrong if we read the full text, as text in detail would explain when the logging is good or bad for the environment based on numerous factors. Yes, alliance to a particular lobby makes some of them misconstrue the facts at times for the public, which an informative person would come to know immediately...as to where they are not revealing the whole truth!

Coming back to the qs above...answer is Yes, (homosexuality…a disorder) if you look from the perspective of nature course. The answer would be No, if you look from an individual's "freedom" perspective. Nature is evolved from Male and female and depends on the same for its continuation; society comes in and makes rules saying who should mate or should not such as it’s a no-no between parents and children or siblings. And offcourse, two individuals from the same sex cannot add to the nature's on-going cycle - thus a disorder!

Similarly, male and female organs those when “meet” and result into a reproduction are natural – all other means of “satisfaction” adopted are unnatural and have been actually used in previous times only to punish or humiliate...I remember Robert Deniro in his movie “Analyze this” made a simple but strong statement “how can I expect or ask my wife to do something like that …she kisses with her mouth my children”.

A program by Jerry reflected the same a daughter-father marriage was not accepted and thereby not attended by even their closest friends forget about the family members. Another form of disorder - in another episode, a black boy transformed a white girlfriend of a white racist boy (member of a white gang that used to hit on the black gangs) into his collared leashed bitch (on 4) and made a video of her saying and doing things he commanded her to say and do, and showed it on the Jerry’s show. The bouncers kept on restraining the white boy from attacking his girlfriend and the black boy as the video rolled on. At the end of the program all the white participants were saying that the white boy was a disgrace to the white race, the blacks made it light by saying, “once gone black you never look back”. I felt some thing missing, part of it was finally said by a white lady, and she said “not only the white boy but the white girl was also a disgrace to the white race”…and for the first time I saw embarrassment on the face of the white girl. However, what finally I wanted to listen was never said, “the black boy was also a disgrace to the black race for making the white girl do which was not human, and as a cost to the deeds of her bf.” Now videos of mostly white girls as bottom for the blacks and now even the Asian Indians are out…it hurts why only the white girls or why not the vice versa...are we racists against white females?

Individuals are educated enough to know what they want, more so in the developed world, so some create logging right lobby, and some nature conservation...some fight for gay/lesbian, BDMS rights and some for the preservation of traditional societal values. Deep down we all (mostly) know what is right and what is wrong, and we choose what we like, not necessarily always the right (coke/beer or a glass of milk or a juice ask a teenage s/he will tell you!), I would only say to be a "man" enough to accept in saying, yes we know its not the norm, but we choose so, because we want to. So choose whatever you want and stand by it with a sense of responsibility not impunity!