FoxyForestFire
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Foxy,
I reguarly fist my SO, testing how far I can go - what her pain limits are. And we too go the whole way dilating the cervix.
The first time we did this and I went in upto the wrist, we both heard the notch of her pelvic bone "crack" as it parted. Afterwards, because we did it reguarly the notch never fully closed.
As Ownedsubgal has told you everything goes tight afterwards. I am not sure if this is entirely accurate or it may be that internally the vagina is swollen and bruised.
Finally safety - I have read in Pat Califa's SM that gloves should be worn for fisting. I do not wear gloves a choice we jointly made - but I am very carefull to cut and file my fingernails down to the Quick (this hurts first time). I allow my SO to check my nails so she too feels confident that she will not get scratched.
I would say that some of Ownedsubgal's mail worried me - IMHO and experience (I have fisted five women over the last 35 years) Never should the hand be pounded into the vagina, nor should it be pulled out fast - if the cervix has been dilated this could cause a Prolapse.
I recommend plenty of lube, Lube the vagina itself, open the Vagina with a large vibrator, then lube the hand and use a slow steady push to insert the hand. In my book the Dom has a tremendous duty of care to the Sub especially when doing anything invassive which if they go wrong could cause major medical problems.
Also Foxy take a look at the Chain Trick thread since we tried it my SO reckons it is fantastic!
jon
I reguarly fist my SO, testing how far I can go - what her pain limits are. And we too go the whole way dilating the cervix.
The first time we did this and I went in upto the wrist, we both heard the notch of her pelvic bone "crack" as it parted. Afterwards, because we did it reguarly the notch never fully closed.
As Ownedsubgal has told you everything goes tight afterwards. I am not sure if this is entirely accurate or it may be that internally the vagina is swollen and bruised.
Finally safety - I have read in Pat Califa's SM that gloves should be worn for fisting. I do not wear gloves a choice we jointly made - but I am very carefull to cut and file my fingernails down to the Quick (this hurts first time). I allow my SO to check my nails so she too feels confident that she will not get scratched.
I would say that some of Ownedsubgal's mail worried me - IMHO and experience (I have fisted five women over the last 35 years) Never should the hand be pounded into the vagina, nor should it be pulled out fast - if the cervix has been dilated this could cause a Prolapse.
I recommend plenty of lube, Lube the vagina itself, open the Vagina with a large vibrator, then lube the hand and use a slow steady push to insert the hand. In my book the Dom has a tremendous duty of care to the Sub especially when doing anything invassive which if they go wrong could cause major medical problems.
Also Foxy take a look at the Chain Trick thread since we tried it my SO reckons it is fantastic!
jon
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Two Cocks At Once
I routinely use a light flogger on my slut's pussy, forcing her to position herself so that her labia are parted. Being hit on the interior makes her squirm and gasp, and she says that the pain level is more intense that simply being lashed on the outside.
Concerning stretching, I enjoy having another dom (M) join me in fucking the slut Given that I larger than the fellow who usually joins us (seven inches v. about five for him) I get inside her cunt first, with her sitting atop me and leaning forward. He kneels behind the slut and works his cock into her pussy, so that it is alongside mine. He has to use lubrication (KY is good) and the initial entry sometimes requires some forceful pushing. But the slut eventually relaxes enough to accomodate both cocks.
I happen to be bi (as if my slut) so I gain extra pleasure from the sensation of my cock rubbing against another man's shaft. About half the time we manage to have our ejaculations coincide.
As most of you have probably discovered in yur own sex play, a slut's pussy is highly flexible and stretchable. For my slut to take two cocks is really no more challenging than using a large dildo on her.
When my slut has done something to earn herself a treat, I enjoy putting a clothes pin on each labia before we go to the supermarket. I normally apply them in the parking lot just before we enter the store. I sit in the driver;'s seat and she stands outside the car, facing me, skirt pulled up to expose her cunt (no panties, of course). I use pins that are strong enough to stay in place for half an hour or so with slipping off, even though she is moving about.
I routinely use a light flogger on my slut's pussy, forcing her to position herself so that her labia are parted. Being hit on the interior makes her squirm and gasp, and she says that the pain level is more intense that simply being lashed on the outside.
Concerning stretching, I enjoy having another dom (M) join me in fucking the slut Given that I larger than the fellow who usually joins us (seven inches v. about five for him) I get inside her cunt first, with her sitting atop me and leaning forward. He kneels behind the slut and works his cock into her pussy, so that it is alongside mine. He has to use lubrication (KY is good) and the initial entry sometimes requires some forceful pushing. But the slut eventually relaxes enough to accomodate both cocks.
I happen to be bi (as if my slut) so I gain extra pleasure from the sensation of my cock rubbing against another man's shaft. About half the time we manage to have our ejaculations coincide.
As most of you have probably discovered in yur own sex play, a slut's pussy is highly flexible and stretchable. For my slut to take two cocks is really no more challenging than using a large dildo on her.
When my slut has done something to earn herself a treat, I enjoy putting a clothes pin on each labia before we go to the supermarket. I normally apply them in the parking lot just before we enter the store. I sit in the driver;'s seat and she stands outside the car, facing me, skirt pulled up to expose her cunt (no panties, of course). I use pins that are strong enough to stay in place for half an hour or so with slipping off, even though she is moving about.
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Alright, this is my first post to literotica so if this fucks up you can blame my boredom with reading the FAQs.
I've found that rapidly repeated light slaps with my fingers on my sub's pussy, right over the clit, can often induce a good orgasm and when it can't the stimulation and extra blood flow makes her far more sensetive and reactive to other stimuli.
Light flogging with a short leather cat or a bungi nylon cat gives her delicious pain and the same increase in sensitivity, but wont usually induce orgasm.
Violet wand set on or below medium and used on the hooded clit ranges from agony to ecstasy. I find this works well if one starts high and winds down, then finnishing off on the exposed clit on lowest power can give an orgasm. The screams are sublime.
I love stretching her. I love to be able to see into her gaping vagina after she's been stretched and she enjoys both the sensation and the humiliation of this.
Nothing is as much fun as a giving a good fisting, but I find that for generally stretching her and increasing the size she can stretch to, the best thing is an enormous inflatable dildo. This can be inserted whilst deflated and even folded, then inflated to her capacity (these things are about $90au so they'd be about $30us).
I've found that after she's been fisted, if the hand is reinserted open (ie not a closed fist) one can feel around the cervix area with the finger tips and find several small bumps and ridges (as in half a pea sized). I'm not talking about the cervix itself, but textural features of the deep frontal (distal anterior) vaginal wall. Moderately paced, rhythmic stimulation of these with the finger tips always induces a very deep and strong orgasm that does not leave her oversensetive and requiring a few minutes down time before stimulation can continue. She describes this type of orgasm as being different from that achieved by clittoral or G-spot stimulation and says that it is to a G-spot O what a G-spot O is to a clittoral O.
Anyway, that's my first diatribe here and I hope some of you find it worth the effort.
I've found that rapidly repeated light slaps with my fingers on my sub's pussy, right over the clit, can often induce a good orgasm and when it can't the stimulation and extra blood flow makes her far more sensetive and reactive to other stimuli.
Light flogging with a short leather cat or a bungi nylon cat gives her delicious pain and the same increase in sensitivity, but wont usually induce orgasm.
Violet wand set on or below medium and used on the hooded clit ranges from agony to ecstasy. I find this works well if one starts high and winds down, then finnishing off on the exposed clit on lowest power can give an orgasm. The screams are sublime.
I love stretching her. I love to be able to see into her gaping vagina after she's been stretched and she enjoys both the sensation and the humiliation of this.
Nothing is as much fun as a giving a good fisting, but I find that for generally stretching her and increasing the size she can stretch to, the best thing is an enormous inflatable dildo. This can be inserted whilst deflated and even folded, then inflated to her capacity (these things are about $90au so they'd be about $30us).
I've found that after she's been fisted, if the hand is reinserted open (ie not a closed fist) one can feel around the cervix area with the finger tips and find several small bumps and ridges (as in half a pea sized). I'm not talking about the cervix itself, but textural features of the deep frontal (distal anterior) vaginal wall. Moderately paced, rhythmic stimulation of these with the finger tips always induces a very deep and strong orgasm that does not leave her oversensetive and requiring a few minutes down time before stimulation can continue. She describes this type of orgasm as being different from that achieved by clittoral or G-spot stimulation and says that it is to a G-spot O what a G-spot O is to a clittoral O.
Anyway, that's my first diatribe here and I hope some of you find it worth the effort.
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Hi Incubus Dark,
I appreciate your contribution. You appear to have a well developed (and practiced) sexual sadism, and I applaud your candor and shamelessness.
As a woman you can best appreciate certain humiliative forms of pussy torture.
//I love stretching her. I love to be able to see into her gaping vagina after she's been stretched and she enjoys both the sensation and the humiliation of this. //
Wouldn't it be great to have video camera showing this to your assembled friends. Suppose that stretched vagina was dripping cum? Suppose the assembled ones peed into this cavernous goblet and....
Keep up the postings.
J.
I appreciate your contribution. You appear to have a well developed (and practiced) sexual sadism, and I applaud your candor and shamelessness.
As a woman you can best appreciate certain humiliative forms of pussy torture.
//I love stretching her. I love to be able to see into her gaping vagina after she's been stretched and she enjoys both the sensation and the humiliation of this. //
Wouldn't it be great to have video camera showing this to your assembled friends. Suppose that stretched vagina was dripping cum? Suppose the assembled ones peed into this cavernous goblet and....
Keep up the postings.
J.
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Dear Pure,
Your concepts have merit
In fact I purchased a nice little digital video camera only last week, with this purpose and others in mind.
At the moment I'm trying to envisage a position by which she can display herself quickly and easily to others on command. Initially I thought that she may be able to bend over forward at the hip, reach over her back and insert the tips of four fingers into herself, then pull upwards to display her gaping vaginal cavity. This idea had the merit of being fast and easily done in public whilst wearing a skirt. Unfortunately, she proved insuficiently flexiable to carry this out with any degree of success or grace; a lack for which I have decreed her two hours of dancing lessons per week.
Nonetheless, I would still like to determine an easy method by which she might display her interesting body modification, and I would appreciate any suggestions you or others might have in this regard.
Your concepts have merit
In fact I purchased a nice little digital video camera only last week, with this purpose and others in mind.
At the moment I'm trying to envisage a position by which she can display herself quickly and easily to others on command. Initially I thought that she may be able to bend over forward at the hip, reach over her back and insert the tips of four fingers into herself, then pull upwards to display her gaping vaginal cavity. This idea had the merit of being fast and easily done in public whilst wearing a skirt. Unfortunately, she proved insuficiently flexiable to carry this out with any degree of success or grace; a lack for which I have decreed her two hours of dancing lessons per week.
Nonetheless, I would still like to determine an easy method by which she might display her interesting body modification, and I would appreciate any suggestions you or others might have in this regard.
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If I had a Labia
I should love for it to be coated with clothes spins. Oh ahh, the very thought of it makes me hard
I should love for it to be coated with clothes spins. Oh ahh, the very thought of it makes me hard
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I hate clothespins, but I love having my pussy whipped spanked and slapped.I enjoyed these things when I was 10yrs. Coupled with verbal abuse and it just takes me to another plain. My orgasm are more intense after my pussy is abused like that.-Sara
I hate clothespins, but I love having my pussy whipped spanked and slapped.I enjoyed these things when I was 10yrs. Coupled with verbal abuse and it just takes me to another plain. My orgasm are more intense after my pussy is abused like that.-Sara
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Re: Needles?
Yep, My first needle play experiance included having 35x 25 gauge needles through my mons, my labia , vaginal walls and one into my clit, at 45 and 90 degree angles ( straight in!) When the tops of the needles were tweeked after insertion, it resulted in the most exquisite pleasure/pain. Was also aggessively digitally probed with them in. Awesome to the extreme. Endorphin rush and buzzed for hours afterwards. Beware tho, the genitals must be cleaned thoroughly before hand. And gloves and a skilled technician is essential.I have a deep hood piercing and a clamp over the thick clitoral nerve,( above clit) is yummy also, clothes pegs are too grippy, a surgical sponge clamp is better, direct pressure where you want it most, then it can be lifted, twisted, pulled etc.... ah shit I will try anything.....L&L LCG
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Yep, My first needle play experiance included having 35x 25 gauge needles through my mons, my labia , vaginal walls and one into my clit, at 45 and 90 degree angles ( straight in!) When the tops of the needles were tweeked after insertion, it resulted in the most exquisite pleasure/pain. Was also aggessively digitally probed with them in. Awesome to the extreme. Endorphin rush and buzzed for hours afterwards. Beware tho, the genitals must be cleaned thoroughly before hand. And gloves and a skilled technician is essential.I have a deep hood piercing and a clamp over the thick clitoral nerve,( above clit) is yummy also, clothes pegs are too grippy, a surgical sponge clamp is better, direct pressure where you want it most, then it can be lifted, twisted, pulled etc.... ah shit I will try anything.....L&L LCG
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Note for Landcruisergirl
Dear, if you are ever in San Francisco, check out a club called The Power Exchange (they have a web site). Several times we have seen prolonged needle play between F/F couples there, including one in which the dom actually sewed her sub's cleft shut. Kitsy got a bit nervous watching because they did not seem to take sterilization precautions but the drill there is that you just watch and keep your mouths shut.
By the way, the Exchange is sexually ecumenical, with something for about everyone. We get our kicks from a simulated camp ground, where people crawl from tent to tent, fucking whoever comes into reach. Some of the gay BD/SM dungeon scenes get pretty far-out. But most of the B&D scenarios are quite inventive. Ah, San Francisco!!
Dear, if you are ever in San Francisco, check out a club called The Power Exchange (they have a web site). Several times we have seen prolonged needle play between F/F couples there, including one in which the dom actually sewed her sub's cleft shut. Kitsy got a bit nervous watching because they did not seem to take sterilization precautions but the drill there is that you just watch and keep your mouths shut.
By the way, the Exchange is sexually ecumenical, with something for about everyone. We get our kicks from a simulated camp ground, where people crawl from tent to tent, fucking whoever comes into reach. Some of the gay BD/SM dungeon scenes get pretty far-out. But most of the B&D scenarios are quite inventive. Ah, San Francisco!!
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I have to add that my experiance was purely for my own selfish sensationalism. It wasnt to please anyone else. I didnt do it as an act of submission, tho the piercer is a dominant, he is not my master. And as a nurse I was confident in his skills, and technique. Was like trying a drug for the first time.Curious creature I am. I have a hood ring and my master takes full advantage of it, though I got it 2 years before I became active in bdsm. chains, weights, etc...thats a different head set tho... Thanks for the info,
L&L LCG
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Note for Pink Orchard
PO, if you wish to try pussy whipping, I suggest that your dom seek out a multi-tailed flail -- essentially, a handle with about a dozen think leather straps. This spreads around the sensation and lets him flog your tummy as well as your labia. A simple whip does concentrate the sensation/pain, but several sluts have told me that the flail is much more erotic.
Try it first by simply putting your hands under your knees and pulling up your legs, as if you are inviting your dom to fuck you. A good variant, though, is to get on your hands and knees, legs spread about as far as you can, and let your dom hit your cunt from the rear. (A swat or two will also land on your ass hole, which you should enjoy as well.)
So, my dear, come over here and spread. WHACK WHACK WHACK! -- right on your lovely cunt.
PO, if you wish to try pussy whipping, I suggest that your dom seek out a multi-tailed flail -- essentially, a handle with about a dozen think leather straps. This spreads around the sensation and lets him flog your tummy as well as your labia. A simple whip does concentrate the sensation/pain, but several sluts have told me that the flail is much more erotic.
Try it first by simply putting your hands under your knees and pulling up your legs, as if you are inviting your dom to fuck you. A good variant, though, is to get on your hands and knees, legs spread about as far as you can, and let your dom hit your cunt from the rear. (A swat or two will also land on your ass hole, which you should enjoy as well.)
So, my dear, come over here and spread. WHACK WHACK WHACK! -- right on your lovely cunt.
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my partner and i have explored fisting, my pussy being the one recieving the torture...
she can slide her hand into me as far as the bottom joint of her thumb, at which point i have to use my safe word, begrudgingly.
the sensation is absolutely fantastic.
words of safety: lube, and rubber gloves are required. go gently, and slowly, this probably won't happen on the first try and believe me it's better that it doesn't. move the hand gently, stretching your fingers apart, and watch your partner shake...
while your partner is trying to slide their hand inside you, breathe deep... in and out... don't forget to breathe or this will become painful in the unbearable way.
good luck. *wicked smile*
she can slide her hand into me as far as the bottom joint of her thumb, at which point i have to use my safe word, begrudgingly.
the sensation is absolutely fantastic.
words of safety: lube, and rubber gloves are required. go gently, and slowly, this probably won't happen on the first try and believe me it's better that it doesn't. move the hand gently, stretching your fingers apart, and watch your partner shake...
while your partner is trying to slide their hand inside you, breathe deep... in and out... don't forget to breathe or this will become painful in the unbearable way.
good luck. *wicked smile*
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I would be interested in the streching of my wifes pussy. We have been together for about 20 years and during sex I usually play with two or three fingers. How long should we play with multiple fingers before we try more? and is this something that I can do gradually and it will just happen? This isn't a topic that we would openly discuss but if it is enjoyable for her I would love to do it, in other words could it just happen one night?
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Stretching Her Pussy
Dear Cardinal: The capacity of a cunt to admit fingers varies widely from woman to woman, and has nothing to do with her physical size (i. e., weight, etc). There is a woman in her swing group who is 5-1 and weighs a tad more than 100 pounds, yet her pussy is flexible enough that she can take two cocks at the same time -- one of her favored "party stunts."
You write that you now put two fingers in your wife's pussy, and you suggest that she is comfortable with that. I would suggest that you simply start adding a finger at a time and see what happens. But by all means do alert her before you try to push your entire hand up her cunt, because she is going to have to do some major relaxing to let it in. It might turn out that taking a fist is beyond her comfort level. If so, let it be, for involuntary fisting is something that you do not wish to inflict on someone you love.
Give the disparity in hand sizes, many women find it more agreeable to be fisted by another female rather than by a man. My Kitsy has a gal pal who she fists while being fisted in turn.
Keep at it, and give us a report from time to time, eh?
Joe
Dear Cardinal: The capacity of a cunt to admit fingers varies widely from woman to woman, and has nothing to do with her physical size (i. e., weight, etc). There is a woman in her swing group who is 5-1 and weighs a tad more than 100 pounds, yet her pussy is flexible enough that she can take two cocks at the same time -- one of her favored "party stunts."
You write that you now put two fingers in your wife's pussy, and you suggest that she is comfortable with that. I would suggest that you simply start adding a finger at a time and see what happens. But by all means do alert her before you try to push your entire hand up her cunt, because she is going to have to do some major relaxing to let it in. It might turn out that taking a fist is beyond her comfort level. If so, let it be, for involuntary fisting is something that you do not wish to inflict on someone you love.
Give the disparity in hand sizes, many women find it more agreeable to be fisted by another female rather than by a man. My Kitsy has a gal pal who she fists while being fisted in turn.
Keep at it, and give us a report from time to time, eh?
Joe
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Cardinal,
Safe, sane and consensual The keywords in any Dom Sub relationship.
To be SAFE doing a full hand fisting you really must - (i) clip and manicure your fingernails only hours beforehand; (ii) wear gloves.
Even assuming for a matter of argument your wife has a naturally large cunt I do not see how you can do this and work-up to just slipping your whole hand in without your wife realising you were doing something different.
SANE - is it sane to even try this without prior warning - if you got in successfully without her realising. When she did realise your hand was right inside she might panic try to push you out and tear herself in the process.
CONSENSUAL This my friend is your biggest problem - you are going to do something without her consent.
According to the two women I have fisted, the pain they experienced as my knuckle went through "The Ring of Fire", both going in and coming out was only marginally less than the pain they had experienced during childbirth.
One said, "I cum like a running tap (fawcet) because it feels like I am going to die cumming!"
Now having said that, an admission. I had a relationship where my sub enjoyed being drugged and awakening to whatever I was doing to her. We tried a wide range of things tit whipping so she only awakened after her tits were bleeding. Pussy whipping, and inevitably we tried fisting. If I had not anticipated she might struggle and had not taken the precaution of tying her down beforehand she would have done some damage to herself, as soon as the drug began to wear off she began to try and expel my hand. That said the act was still safe sane and consensual because it was the loss of all control that she enjoyed. She said she never had to feel guilty no matter how kinky things got because she had not been a conscious participant. - Catholic Theology pushed to the limits!
Have fun Cardinal but bare in mind this is an act that pushes safety for the woman to the limit - apart from tears it is easy to cause a prolapse. Once your knuckle is in do not pull out quickly - if she is panicking she has to calm down and relax before you start to remove your hand.
Hope all this helps
jon
Safe, sane and consensual The keywords in any Dom Sub relationship.
To be SAFE doing a full hand fisting you really must - (i) clip and manicure your fingernails only hours beforehand; (ii) wear gloves.
Even assuming for a matter of argument your wife has a naturally large cunt I do not see how you can do this and work-up to just slipping your whole hand in without your wife realising you were doing something different.
SANE - is it sane to even try this without prior warning - if you got in successfully without her realising. When she did realise your hand was right inside she might panic try to push you out and tear herself in the process.
CONSENSUAL This my friend is your biggest problem - you are going to do something without her consent.
According to the two women I have fisted, the pain they experienced as my knuckle went through "The Ring of Fire", both going in and coming out was only marginally less than the pain they had experienced during childbirth.
One said, "I cum like a running tap (fawcet) because it feels like I am going to die cumming!"
Now having said that, an admission. I had a relationship where my sub enjoyed being drugged and awakening to whatever I was doing to her. We tried a wide range of things tit whipping so she only awakened after her tits were bleeding. Pussy whipping, and inevitably we tried fisting. If I had not anticipated she might struggle and had not taken the precaution of tying her down beforehand she would have done some damage to herself, as soon as the drug began to wear off she began to try and expel my hand. That said the act was still safe sane and consensual because it was the loss of all control that she enjoyed. She said she never had to feel guilty no matter how kinky things got because she had not been a conscious participant. - Catholic Theology pushed to the limits!
Have fun Cardinal but bare in mind this is an act that pushes safety for the woman to the limit - apart from tears it is easy to cause a prolapse. Once your knuckle is in do not pull out quickly - if she is panicking she has to calm down and relax before you start to remove your hand.
Hope all this helps
jon
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I love pussy whipping we use a riding crop, combined with the clothespins which sends me over the edge. Clothespins are used in many different places and it it a rush. I love it when he uses the riding crop on my pussy it is a fantastic sensation and gets all the juices flowing. It is a wonderful feeling have also tried with flogger and that is aa different arousal feeling too.
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I'm so turned on... lol...
I've got to say - I have not yet learned to push myself to accept the pain of anything clamping my clit for any length of time - usually start begging to have it off the minute it shuts down. But I think this thread is suitable motivation.
I have thoroughly enjoyed having my legs spread wide and my clit and pussy spanked hard. I definitely want to try more of that... starts thinking, what with all the tack shops around here, i should keep in mind a riding crop as a gift.
I've got to say - I have not yet learned to push myself to accept the pain of anything clamping my clit for any length of time - usually start begging to have it off the minute it shuts down. But I think this thread is suitable motivation.
I have thoroughly enjoyed having my legs spread wide and my clit and pussy spanked hard. I definitely want to try more of that... starts thinking, what with all the tack shops around here, i should keep in mind a riding crop as a gift.
