Internationalism: Where can I find some?

[Politruk]

To the extent there is any difference, the CCP are acting like nationalists. Racists would want, rather, to kill the Uighurs, or sterilize them, or expel them from Chinese territory -- anything to keep their DNA from tainting the Han gene pool.

In the U.S. there used to be boarding schools for young Native Americans, with the motto, "Kill the Indian, save the man." In other words, assimilate them culturally. That's nationalist thinking.

 

[Politruk]

Nationalist put the nation states interest above all else.

A nation is not a state, not a country. A nation is a people, with a shared language and culture (and, in some versions of nationalism, blood kinship), which might or might not be associated with some particular territory.

 

[UltraChad]

To the extent there is any difference,

Nation =/= race. They aren't the same thing, that's the difference.

the CCP are acting like nationalists.

Only if you consider the CCP itself a nation. Otherwise they are just self centered commies....standard issue.

Racists would want, rather, to kill the Uighurs, or sterilize them, or expel them from Chinese territory -- anything to keep their DNA from tainting the Han gene pool.

Sure.

In the U.S. there used to be boarding schools for young Native Americans, with the motto, "Kill the Indian, save the man." In other words, assimilate them culturally. That's nationalist thinking.

Yup....especailly important for an ideological nation like the USA.

 

[Politruk]

Nation =/= race. They aren't the same thing, that's the difference.

In some versions of nationalism, race and nation are exactly the same. (Nazism, for instance -- but even today, German law bases citizenship on jus sanguinis, right of blood, not jus soli, right of soil -- which is why Turkish guest-workers whose ancestors have been born in Germany for the past three generations are still not citizens.)

In other versions, nationality is defined culturally rather than genetically. (That's the only form that could work in a country like the U.S. that has been multiracial since before independence.)

 

[Politruk]

Only if you consider the CCP itself a nation. Otherwise they are just self centered commies....standard issue.

No, the CCP considers China a nation -- and that matters a lot more to them than Communism does, now.

 

[UltraChad]

In some versions of nationalism, race and nation are exactly the same.

Ethnic nations exist, yes.

In other versions, nationality is defined culturally rather than genetically. (That's the only form that could work in a country like the U.S. that has been multiracial since before independence.)

Yup.

No, the CCP considers China a nation -- and that matters a lot more to them than Communism does, now.

No, they are China in their minds.

Neither matters to them, they just want power/money. Standard lefties.

 

[Politruk]

Also, what exactly is this New World Order?

And why does anybody have anything against it?