What ever happened to Communism?

Communism was never truly attempted.

OH BULLSHIT!!! Yes it was.

It was often given that name but it was a lie and it was really authoritarian or dictatorships.

It's not a lie, that's the inevitable outcome of socialism. The only way you can take everything form everyone and force them to slave for the collective is at the end of a gun barrel.....The THEORY is wrong, socialism doesn't result in the communist utopia, it results in an authoritarian/totalitarian hell.
 
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A low poverty rate is more important than just about anything else.

No, a low oppression/authoritarian fuckhead rate is more important.
The social democracies are not poor.

Well the USA finances their defense and warmongering, no shit.

Could you imagine how rich the US would be if we didn't have to pay for the world police?? So far reich wing and isolationist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
There isn't any downside to it.

Not for the parasite class there isn't, until you kill the host.
 
Not for the parasite class there isn't, until you kill the host.
The host is the working class -- and in the social democracies, they are in no danger at all. And there isn't any parasite class, either. Or at least not one as all-powerful and exploitative as the American plutocracy.
 
That's certainly not a problem in the social democracies. They're free countries.

LOL lie to someone else....anywhere you can go to jail and get prosecuted as a criminal for telling offensive jokes, defend oneself against attack, think the wrong things or trying to verify paternity?? Is not free.

You're an absolute lunatic to think they are.

The host is the working class --

Yes all those garbage deplorable working class people that lefties HATE so much.

and in the social democracies, they are in no danger at all.

Lies. They are getting crushed as we speak in several social demookraciez.

And there isn't any parasite class, either.

Of course there is, everyone who depends on government wealth redistribution scams (theft) that provide poor or no value to the nation.

Or at least not one as all-powerful and exploitative as the American plutocracy.

Another fantasy.
 
Of course there is, everyone who depends on government wealth redistribution scams (theft) that provide poor or no value to the nation.
There is no country in the whole world where the poor are a parasite class. There never was.
 
The social democracies are superior to the U.S. in results -- in broadly shared prosperity, in lower rates of poverty and homelessness. They are superior in happiness. They are even superior in democracy.
I disagree.
Being stripped of one's wealth, labor and production to redistribute it to those who don't produce, strips the incentive of those who do.
 
I disagree.
Being stripped of one's wealth, labor and production to redistribute it to those who don't produce, strips the incentive of those who do.
Apparently not, because the production keeps on happening. The social democracies are not in the situation of the late USSR, where "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us."
 
Apparently not, because the production keeps on happening. The social democracies are not in the situation of the late USSR, where "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us."
...yes, production continues, as Chad stated earlier "At the barrel of a gun."
 
...yes, production continues, as Chad stated earlier "At the barrel of a gun."
Nobody is pointing a gun. Workers in the social democracies simply work for money, like here -- only they have unions strong enough to get them a fair deal.
 
Nobody is pointing a gun.
Stop paying all of your multiple taxes, licensing, permits etc... ignore the Govt threats, letters, liens, etc...
THEN, get back to me and tell me how many men with guns showed up.... I'll wait.
 
Stop paying all of your multiple taxes, licensing, permits etc... ignore the Govt threats, letters, liens, etc...
THEN, get back to me and tell me how many men with guns showed up.... I'll wait.
None of that is any different in the social democracies than it is here in the heartland of capitalism.
 
Nobody is pointing a gun. Workers in the social democracies simply work for money, like here -- only they have unions strong enough to get them a fair deal.
My profession is the last bastion of the maritime industry that's non-union...
If it was union, you'd be lucky to get gasoline for $10 per gallon.
 
"Nobody is pointing a gun."
Your words, not mine...
...I'm still waiting.
None of this detracts from my point: That things in general go better in the social democracies than here, and therefore they are models the U.S. should imitate -- regardless of whether what they have counts as socialism, and regardless of whether what we have counts as capitalism.

Certainly we have no good reason at all to think a purer form of capitalism would produce better results.
 
You're a prostitute?
Yep, an oilfield prostitute... my day rate is higher than the day rate of the union Chief Engineer who left his ship and came to my OSV.
My insurance, Medicare, Optical, and Dental is $42 every 2 weeks.
 
The American plutocracy is no fantasy.

It is, you can't name a SINGLE plutocrat. NOT ONE.

That is fantasy.

Nope, England has all but fallen, France is collapsing, the Scandies other than Finland are like terrified school girls who have no idea what's going on but they are scared, Germany is falling apart, Italy is having a political crisis.

It's not good.

There is no country in the whole world where the poor are a parasite class. There never was.

Then they have no need to be reaching into other people pockets via the government???

Oh wait they are a parasite class.

None of that is any different in the social democracies than it is here in the heartland of capitalism.

We don't have capitalism. Why are you SOOOOOOO profoundly fucking retarded??

: That things in general go better in the social democracies than here,

Certainly we have no good reason at all to think a purer form of capitalism would produce better results.

No they don't.

Yes we do, because it's been better with it. No other system has actually produced better results......
 
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