Long term captivity

I would love to do this. As much as I pride myself on being a well-adjusted, ladylike and properly stable member of society, I have very dark well-planned fantasies about being a captive.

They usually involve a highly dramatic gritty Gotham-like setting where I'm chosen, stalked, hunted and captured by a Dom and must learn his desires quickly or else...well. There are things worse than death, really.

I can picture my tormentor in cravats and lace cuffs, polished shoes and aristocratic laughter. I'm peasantlike, in my rough woolen kirtle and bare feet, my hair undone and tangled.

*sigh*

My dream date, really.

Is your dream date Captain Hook? Sweetie. What have I told you about selling yourself short? ;)

Captivity is hot, I agree. I've never done this long-term, just roughly 24 hours max.

Key elements of my kidnapped sex slave fantasy are the victim's terror, and desperation transforming horrified refusal into wretched "consent." Eliciting proximate responses from an established girlfriend is always a challenge, of course. In this context, a location that genuinely freaks her out always helped me advance the ball.

For example, as a grad student I once borrowed an undergraduate buddy's key and locked my girlfriend du jour in the rec room of a frat house basement. (The boys, at an away game, were out of town.)

Stench of urine and stale beer. Trash everywhere. Drywall punched in at multiple spots, clearly from drunken exertions. Cockroaches in the corner. Giant stains on the only pieces of furniture in the room - a ratty pool table and a filthy couch. Fear that the animals who created this mess could return at any time, and whatnot. Perfect! The idea is that each minute feels like an hour in such a spot.

In addition to the obvious, there are a couple of things I find uniquely entertaining about this type of scenario. First, women confined in solitary, stressful conditions tend to talk to themselves, out loud. The audio show is usually extremely satisfying (from a sadist's perspective), and can be enjoyed simply by relaxing on the other side of the door.

Second, it's remarkable how much easier it is to push limits in this type of environment. Consensual extortion, though it sounds oxymoronic, can be highly effective and a whole helluva lot of fun.

People for whom lying and/or elaborate mindfucks are not out of bounds can take this a lot farther than I ever could. I'd say the most effective tools in my case are creative use of physical environments, and surprise.


[Note for the safety minded: I have never actually left the building in which a partner of mine is confined.]

:eek: You had me until cockroaches. :eek:
 
It doesn't even require a "kidnapping" or a special place, really, if you're creative. Just showing up at an established boyfriend's house one night, even if you know what's coming, can be a study in captivity and terror. I know this from experience. ;)
 
It doesn't even require a "kidnapping" or a special place, really, if you're creative. Just showing up at an established boyfriend's house one night, even if you know what's coming, can be a study in captivity and terror. I know this from experience. ;)

You need to stop dating men who obsess over their ant farms. Just sayin'. ;)
 
I can make them go away.....


;)

That's hot. *thinks to self* Maybe I should date the Orkin man...


Just so I'm not completely hijacking this thread...

The being tied up and just left there scenario was one of my first favorite bdsm fantasies. I like the idea of being tied up somewhere as a punishment, and then left to think about all of the bad things I've done. But would it be hot, or just boring?

I mean, after a while, what do you do?

It's also got the same problem as a rape scene with a trusted partner - you have to make it realistic enough so that it has the desired effect, but not so realistic that the pyl totally goes insane or some other undesired consequence.
 
The being tied up and just left there scenario was one of my first favorite bdsm fantasies. I like the idea of being tied up somewhere as a punishment, and then left to think about all of the bad things I've done. But would it be hot, or just boring?

I mean, after a while, what do you do?
What I typically do is sit outside the door - getting off on the sounds of her fury, fear, and frustration. If & when these subside, and she settles into something like determined incessant pacing, then I might read a book or the news for a while. When I get bored, I head back in the room to stoke the fires some more.

Boredom for the woman is normal, once she calms down. She's just walkin' around an empty room, with no one to talk to and nothing to do! But prolonged boredom usually gets her worked up again, so it works to my advantage.

If she's in there with the primary focus "omg, this is hot, hot, hot!" then (from my perspective) I'm doing something wrong. There's a time and a place for her pleasure, but this just isn't one of them.

It's also got the same problem as a rape scene with a trusted partner - you have to make it realistic enough so that it has the desired effect, but not so realistic that the pyl totally goes insane or some other undesired consequence.
Well, yes. But for me, that's really the point.

The only way I know to approximate non-consent with a consensual partner is to do things for which she has a genuine, intense dislike.
 
What I typically do is sit outside the door - getting off on the sounds of her fury, fear, and frustration. If & when these subside, and she settles into something like determined incessant pacing, then I might read a book or the news for a while. When I get bored, I head back in the room to stoke the fires some more.

Boredom for the woman is normal, once she calms down. She's just walkin' around an empty room, with no one to talk to and nothing to do! But prolonged boredom usually gets her worked up again, so it works to my advantage.

If she's in there with the primary focus "omg, this is hot, hot, hot!" then (from my perspective) I'm doing something wrong. There's a time and a place for her pleasure, but this just isn't one of them.

Well, yes. But for me, that's really the point.

The only way I know to approximate non-consent with a consensual partner is to do things for which she has a genuine, intense dislike.


Right. I guess this is one of those how submissive am I? times. I don't know how I would really react.

Mister Man's fantasy is to have me sit in a corner all day, and serve him if I'm called. Or for a couple of hours. It's true I'm a bit of a brat. Part of me would want to know when it's going to be over. I guess at least I wouldn't be locked up somewhere. Perhaps I should look at it as captivity training.

Anyway - who would get locked up in a room and start jumping up and down about how hot it is? That would be kind of goofy. :)
 
What I typically do is sit outside the door - getting off on the sounds of her fury, fear, and frustration. If & when these subside, and she settles into something like determined incessant pacing, then I might read a book or the news for a while. When I get bored, I head back in the room to stoke the fires some more.

Boredom for the woman is normal, once she calms down. She's just walkin' around an empty room, with no one to talk to and nothing to do! But prolonged boredom usually gets her worked up again, so it works to my advantage.

If she's in there with the primary focus "omg, this is hot, hot, hot!" then (from my perspective) I'm doing something wrong. There's a time and a place for her pleasure, but this just isn't one of them.

Well, yes. But for me, that's really the point.

The only way I know to approximate non-consent with a consensual partner is to do things for which she has a genuine, intense dislike.
Whoa, you are reminding me of H.H. Holmes there...
 
I love the way you handled this.

:rose:

I much prefer the nasty scenario to the gilded cage, personally.

Captivity is hot, I agree. I've never done this long-term, just roughly 24 hours max.

Key elements of my kidnapped sex slave fantasy are the victim's terror, and desperation transforming horrified refusal into wretched "consent." Eliciting proximate responses from an established girlfriend is always a challenge, of course. In this context, a location that genuinely freaks her out always helped me advance the ball.

For example, as a grad student I once borrowed an undergraduate buddy's key and locked my girlfriend du jour in the rec room of a frat house basement. (The boys, at an away game, were out of town.)

Stench of urine and stale beer. Trash everywhere. Drywall punched in at multiple spots, clearly from drunken exertions. Cockroaches in the corner. Giant stains on the only pieces of furniture in the room - a ratty pool table and a filthy couch. Fear that the animals who created this mess could return at any time, and whatnot. Perfect! The idea is that each minute feels like an hour in such a spot.

In addition to the obvious, there are a couple of things I find uniquely entertaining about this type of scenario. First, women confined in solitary, stressful conditions tend to talk to themselves, out loud. The audio show is usually extremely satisfying (from a sadist's perspective), and can be enjoyed simply by relaxing on the other side of the door.

Second, it's remarkable how much easier it is to push limits in this type of environment. Consensual extortion, though it sounds oxymoronic, can be highly effective and a whole helluva lot of fun.

People for whom lying and/or elaborate mindfucks are not out of bounds can take this a lot farther than I ever could. I'd say the most effective tools in my case are creative use of physical environments, and surprise.


[Note for the safety minded: I have never actually left the building in which a partner of mine is confined.]
 
I guess this is one of those how submissive am I? times.
No, I don't see it that way.

intothewoods said:
I don't know how I would really react.
In my view, it would be your partner's job to make an educated guess as to how you would react, and make adjustments on the spot if it became clear that his guess was wide of the mark.
 
Whoa, you are reminding me of H.H. Holmes there...
It's so funny that you mention a serial killer in response to my post, because I was just reading the Identity Politics thread and thinking: if the thread hadn't veered off course, I would have responded to the original topic as follows.

I have always been very open about my ID as control freak and sadist. I don't expect people to see me as normal, but I do work to help them see that being a man of my proclivities does not equate to being a serial killer, abuser, or rapist.
 
It's so funny that you mention a serial killer in response to my post, because I was just reading the Identity Politics thread and thinking: if the thread hadn't veered off course, I would have responded to the original topic as follows.

I have always been very open about my ID as control freak and sadist. I don't expect people to see me as normal, but I do work to help them see that being a man of my proclivities does not equate to being a serial killer, abuser, or rapist.
I agree completely. I think that's the line between sanity and insanity - if you think it is okay to rape and kill, you are basically insane. If you have similar interests but you realize those things are NOT okay, you are basically sane. There's a switch that's flipped in the serial killer's brain that turns off the voice that says "killing people is not OK."

I only mentioned H.H. Holmes because of how you described listening to the victim grow anxious inside her locked room...I just read Devil in the White City recently and that's exactly what he did for some of his victims - liked to sit outside and listen to them cry out in horror as they realized their fate.
 
Mister Man's fantasy is to have me sit in a corner all day, and serve him if I'm called. Or for a couple of hours. It's true I'm a bit of a brat. Part of me would want to know when it's going to be over.

This would drive me absolutely nuts. I have a need to be at least acknowledged at all times, and sitting there waiting to be noticed would have me fidgeting like crazy.

On the other hand, finally being called would have me at his feet in a flash. :)
 
I agree completely. I think that's the line between sanity and insanity - if you think it is okay to rape and kill, you are basically insane. If you have similar interests but you realize those things are NOT okay, you are basically sane. There's a switch that's flipped in the serial killer's brain that turns off the voice that says "killing people is not OK."
Yes, exactly. It's not the sexual proclivity, but the malfunctioning superego that's key.

Etoile said:
I only mentioned H.H. Holmes because of how you described listening to the victim grow anxious inside her locked room...I just read Devil in the White City recently and that's exactly what he did for some of his victims - liked to sit outside and listen to them cry out in horror as they realized their fate.
This is the old-fashioned way to enjoy a captive's struggles!

These days, I hear of people using things like baby monitors or tiny cameras hooked up to TVs.
 


This would drive me absolutely nuts. I have a need to be at least acknowledged at all times, and sitting there waiting to be noticed would have me fidgeting like crazy.

On the other hand, finally being called would have me at his feet in a flash. :)

Eh. I get enough of his attention that I don't think that would bother me. I think I would just get bored. But I guess it would just be quiet time. Not too much of a problem, really.

Ha, I just asked if I'd be in a comfortable spot. He said "maybe."
 
Nice idea

Here is how I want to do this thing.

Have him in a hotel room in a high end place.

Throw clothing out window.

Have his ID in the lockbox, the key with me. All keycards with me.

Tell maid/housekeeping not to clean and pay the bill make it clear to the mgmt there is to be NO cleaning and NO disturbance.

If the place burns down or something, obviously you can get out with a slight loss of dignity. Yes it's escape-able, but very annoying to escape. Don't have to tie him up, really. Has to wait around not knowing when or who I'd let in or what would happen.

I think this would get unnerving for most people.

So, I guess I'd say a gilded cage and saving dough for it, would be neat.

I have to concur, this is one heck of an idea. I think the mystery and, "who's coming in" idea is what is truly the mindfuck.

Maybe instead of taking all of his clothes, leave a thong and corset hanging in the closet for him to wear all day.
 
I agree completely. I think that's the line between sanity and insanity - if you think it is okay to rape and kill, you are basically insane. If you have similar interests but you realize those things are NOT okay, you are basically sane. There's a switch that's flipped in the serial killer's brain that turns off the voice that says "killing people is not OK."

I only mentioned H.H. Holmes because of how you described listening to the victim grow anxious inside her locked room...I just read Devil in the White City recently and that's exactly what he did for some of his victims - liked to sit outside and listen to them cry out in horror as they realized their fate.

*shudder*

Yes, exactly. It's not the sexual proclivity, but the malfunctioning superego that's key.

Er. I think the fact you wouldn't do it to a non-consenting stranger helps.

Do any of you watch Dexter?
 
What I typically do is sit outside the door - getting off on the sounds of her fury, fear, and frustration. If & when these subside, and she settles into something like determined incessant pacing, then I might read a book or the news for a while. When I get bored, I head back in the room to stoke the fires some more.

Boredom for the woman is normal, once she calms down. She's just walkin' around an empty room, with no one to talk to and nothing to do! But prolonged boredom usually gets her worked up again, so it works to my advantage.

If she's in there with the primary focus "omg, this is hot, hot, hot!" then (from my perspective) I'm doing something wrong. There's a time and a place for her pleasure, but this just isn't one of them.

Well, yes. But for me, that's really the point.

The only way I know to approximate non-consent with a consensual partner is to do things for which she has a genuine, intense dislike.

just curious, but in the scenario you mentioned with locking an ex-gf in a frathouse, what was the primary purpose of the experience? was it a punishment for her, fulfillment of a perversion for you, what?

i ask because i think this idea can be very effectively used as punishment or a disciplinary tool. my first major punishment, my Master beat me, bound me, beat me some more, then surprised and scared the snot outta me by just leaving me alone like that for a while. we were in a hotel room, i was hogtied, gagged with a butt plug and blindfolded on the middle of the bed. and i hear the door opening and closing, and his footsteps walking away. at first i waited, thinking he was just messing with my mind and would be right back. then after a few minutes i thought he was just giving me some time to think about what i had done, meditate on how to avoid ever doing such a thing again, etc. then after maybe 20 minutes i basically flipped the heck out, positive that he was never going to come back and that the maid would find my body in the morning. i tried to spit out the gag (it just lodged itself in deeper), i struggled against the bonds, i tried to scream. then after a few minutes of that, the despair sunk in. yep, he definitely wasn't coming back, i had really flocked up and my sin was not forgiveable. i was going to die there and never see him or anyone else again. the tears fell. then they dried up, i became almost calm. accepting of my fate. ready to die. confident that i deserved such a fate, feeling very understanding of my Master and why he had to dump me. i thought, at least he allowed me to experience some joy in life, and know what it was like to be truly loved. then all of a sudden it was like a switch flipped in my brain, and i started struggling like crazy again. then again the despair and acceptance.

and then he did the thing i least expected at that point...He came back. untied me, took the gag out, took off the blindfold, and just held me for a bit. He asked if i had anything to say, and immediately i said "i'm sorry Daddy," then started crying and he held me some more. He forgave me, and then told me to eat. He had brought a yummy meal for me back with him, that's what he'd been out doing. and how long had he be gone, putting me through such hell on earth, such a whirlwind of crazy emotions? an hour and a half, tops. suffice to say, that was one lesson thoroughly learned and a mistake never repeated.
 
just curious, but in the scenario you mentioned with locking an ex-gf in a frathouse, what was the primary purpose of the experience? was it a punishment for her, fulfillment of a perversion for you, what?

i ask because i think this idea can be very effectively used as punishment or a disciplinary tool. my first major punishment, my Master beat me, bound me, beat me some more, then surprised and scared the snot outta me by just leaving me alone like that for a while. we were in a hotel room, i was hogtied, gagged with a butt plug and blindfolded on the middle of the bed. and i hear the door opening and closing, and his footsteps walking away. at first i waited, thinking he was just messing with my mind and would be right back. then after a few minutes i thought he was just giving me some time to think about what i had done, meditate on how to avoid ever doing such a thing again, etc. then after maybe 20 minutes i basically flipped the heck out, positive that he was never going to come back and that the maid would find my body in the morning. i tried to spit out the gag (it just lodged itself in deeper), i struggled against the bonds, i tried to scream. then after a few minutes of that, the despair sunk in. yep, he definitely wasn't coming back, i had really flocked up and my sin was not forgiveable. i was going to die there and never see him or anyone else again. the tears fell. then they dried up, i became almost calm. accepting of my fate. ready to die. confident that i deserved such a fate, feeling very understanding of my Master and why he had to dump me. i thought, at least he allowed me to experience some joy in life, and know what it was like to be truly loved. then all of a sudden it was like a switch flipped in my brain, and i started struggling like crazy again. then again the despair and acceptance.

and then he did the thing i least expected at that point...He came back. untied me, took the gag out, took off the blindfold, and just held me for a bit. He asked if i had anything to say, and immediately i said "i'm sorry Daddy," then started crying and he held me some more. He forgave me, and then told me to eat. He had brought a yummy meal for me back with him, that's what he'd been out doing. and how long had he be gone, putting me through such hell on earth, such a whirlwind of crazy emotions? an hour and a half, tops. suffice to say, that was one lesson thoroughly learned and a mistake never repeated.

Yeah, and if you'd bitten through the gag and choked to death, what then? For starters, your "punishment" then turns into at least a manslaughter charge for Master. :rolleyes:

This kind of discussion disturbs me on so many levels it's difficult to articulate, and goes against everything I believe any kind of healthy relationship (even one based on BDSM and lived 24/7) should be.

Your mileage, obviously, may vary.
 
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