Major Mindfucks

wow...very interesting reading. for the one who said she has no limits, i wonder what happens when you get into a situation where you don't really know the person and they end up 'raping' you, not PLAY rape, really really rape, because you don't say 'no'. i don't understand the concept of NO LIMITS and no boundaries. seems like without limits and boundaries you'd be being mind fucked all the time as your Dom really doesn't know what's going to set you off or emotionally scar you for good. ya know?
 
lil_slave_rose said:
wow...very interesting reading. for the one who said she has no limits, i wonder what happens when you get into a situation where you don't really know the person and they end up 'raping' you, not PLAY rape, really really rape, because you don't say 'no'. i don't understand the concept of NO LIMITS and no boundaries. seems like without limits and boundaries you'd be being mind fucked all the time as your Dom really doesn't know what's going to set you off or emotionally scar you for good. ya know?
Don't forget, "no limits" only counts within the arranged relationship. Anybody who says "oh, I have no limits, do whatever with me" to somebody they've just met is asking for trouble! So it's highly unlikely that somebody would be in such a situation. "No limits" only works when the sub implicitly trusts the dom, and when the dom knows the sub well enough. You can't have "no limits" or "no boundaries" in a recently-established relationship...as with all partnerships, the people have to get to know each other first.

It was nice for me to re-read over this thread too.
 
Etoile said:
Don't forget, "no limits" only counts within the arranged relationship. Anybody who says "oh, I have no limits, do whatever with me" to somebody they've just met is asking for trouble! So it's highly unlikely that somebody would be in such a situation. "No limits" only works when the sub implicitly trusts the dom, and when the dom knows the sub well enough. You can't have "no limits" or "no boundaries" in a recently-established relationship...as with all partnerships, the people have to get to know each other first.

It was nice for me to re-read over this thread too.

\right, but in the posts i read from the one in question, she said she did not know the man that well that she was playing with and that she does not 'negotiate' before a scene, that she knows she will do whatever they ask of her because she has NO limits. that's the concept i could not understand.
 
lil_slave_rose said:
\right, but in the posts i read from the one in question, she said she did not know the man that well that she was playing with and that she does not 'negotiate' before a scene, that she knows she will do whatever they ask of her because she has NO limits. that's the concept i could not understand.
Erm, well, osg operates a bit different to the rest of us. She's a very unique young lady.

But for most, "no limits" only applies within the confines of an established relationship.
 
P. B. Walker said:
Some people are easier to mind fuck than others. Some just don't respond to it at all, whereas others will completely fall apart because of it.

Rejection, humiliation, and jealousy seem to be the most popular themes to the mindfuck.


The mindfuck is a favorite subject of mine as well.



Shaq sends his regards.
 
Etoile said:
Erm, well, osg operates a bit different to the rest of us. She's a very unique young lady.

But for most, "no limits" only applies within the confines of an established relationship.

right, and that is the type i can understand more, though i DO have limits and boundaries, anymore, they are few ;)
 
lil_slave_rose said:
wow...very interesting reading. for the one who said she has no limits, i wonder what happens when you get into a situation where you don't really know the person and they end up 'raping' you, not PLAY rape, really really rape, because you don't say 'no'. i don't understand the concept of NO LIMITS and no boundaries. seems like without limits and boundaries you'd be being mind fucked all the time as your Dom really doesn't know what's going to set you off or emotionally scar you for good. ya know?

Etoile is right in that most who speak of having no limits, mean that they have no limits within the confines of their consensual relationship. but yes i do "operate" a bit differently. some of us have no limits not by choice, but simply by nature. for some of us our submission isn't a decision, a gift, or a pleasure, but simply something that just IS. we can't fight, we can't say no, we just submit, period. i am one of these. because of the submissive personality i've always had, i've certainly gotten into a heap of trouble and been damaged/hurt more times than i care to remember.
but fortunately for me i am no longer the lost, broken little submissive that i was when i had the experience recounted in this thread. i am now someone's precious, valuable property, and with him i am protected, even from myself.
 
ownedsubgal said:
Etoile is right in that most who speak of having no limits, mean that they have no limits within the confines of their consensual relationship. but yes i do "operate" a bit differently. some of us have no limits not by choice, but simply by nature. for some of us our submission isn't a decision, a gift, or a pleasure, but simply something that just IS. we can't fight, we can't say no, we just submit, period. i am one of these. because of the submissive personality i've always had, i've certainly gotten into a heap of trouble and been damaged/hurt more times than i care to remember.
but fortunately for me i am no longer the lost, broken little submissive that i was when i had the experience recounted in this thread. i am now someone's precious, valuable property, and with him i am protected, even from myself.

that is a great thing, and i meant no disrespect by my post. i just dont' understand the no limits thing, is all, though i do respect that you are different from me :) no limits just sounds like a very scary dangerous thing, but it's great that you have someone who understands and protects you....
 
I think the 'no limits' concept is also often minimised as being OK because it is done with someone you know. That is true in part, but it also infers there is still a degree of consent for the sub/slave in question in that certain things have been agreed to and because they know each other, there will be a list of things which are understood will never be asked, and which many in such a described relationship will openly say they will walk if those things are introduced. I don't quantify that with the type 'no limits' relationship we have because when I did offer to accept that defining feature to our relationship, I meant I had no limits, and anything he may introduce to the relationship would not provide me with grounds for walking...and I was aware he might go into areas he or I had previously said we would not or did not want to explore, and he has.

That is why I often caution those who say they are looking for a no limits relationship because almost without fail it only takes 5-10 minutes to find something they will not consider doing or accepting in a relationship and foolishly believe that will be understood, often without any discussion. Does it mean I am always happy? Nope, and I am often quite vocal about how I feel about it, but I also hate hearing him remind me this is what I agreed to despite his cautioning me and insisting I think carefuly before he accepted my promise. Grrr, I really hate his 'I told you so' looks or speeches....and I know it does not signal a softening and preparation to let me of the hook, quite the opposite actually as he usally ups the pressure and might even add one or two more unwanted acts as a reminder I am not in the position to negotiate.

Catalina :catroar:
 
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