Most Rich & Famous American - Donald Trump?

Elon Musk is a US citizen. He’s less famous than Trump, many, many times wealthier and probably equally as nauseating.
 
Elon Musk is a US citizen. He’s less famous than Trump, many, many times wealthier and probably equally as nauseating.
Barely; he’s south african canadian and later became American.

Strange cat. Trump’s fame is , i think, much deeper…. Everyone knows about trumps wives, kids, houses etc…. Whereas musk is more reclusive like howard hughes.

Musk obviously has the Fortune part well in hand and like Trump, knows how to use contraryism to his PR advantage.

And the Twitter play as a tax loss was fucking brilliant.
 
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Barely; he’s south african canadian and later became American.

Strange cat. Trump’s fame is , i think, much deeper…. Everyone knows about trumps wives, kids, houses etc…. Whereas musk is more reclusive like howard hughes.
He’s an American citizen, that’s all there is to it. He isn’t reclusive. Trumps’s fame is almost certainly much deeper, Musk’s wealth is way, way more significant.
 
He’s an American citizen, that’s all there is to it. He isn’t reclusive. Trumps’s fame is almost certainly much deeper, Musk’s wealth is way, way more significant.
Setting the entry fee at “billionaire” as a measure of Rich is easy enough.

Harder to measure table stakes for Fame…. Any Suggestions anyone?
 
Setting the entry fee at “billionaire” as a measure of Rich is easy enough.

Harder to measure table stakes for Fame…. Any Suggestions anyone?
It’s easy enough and a fairly lame way to try and avoid Musk being far wealthier than Trump because it doesn’t suit your argument. We can also tell you are FOS here because you made no attempt to set the entry fee at billionaire when Taylor Swift was mentioned.

Musk has over 200 million Twitter followers, which is one measure. Trump has less than half that. I’m not saying he’s more famous, I’m saying that’s one way of measuring fame.

I’m done here now because I’ve wasted far too much of my life debating with a Trump fanboy that pretends he isn’t one.
 
I'd like to add Andrew Carnegie, who was worth $310 Billion, adjusted for inflation. However, he wasn't president, but he owned quite a few. He was also a household name, not only in the United States, but around the world. Can we disqualify him because he didn't have a hit T.V. Show? I'm sure if there had been social media, he would have bought a few companies. His wealth spread for generations, I doubt Trumps will see more than 1 or 2.

I agree with you about today's most famous, but Carnegies fame has stood the test of time. Continues to be someone who is still known by many people. He wasnt the most liked or adored, but neither is Trump. Carnegie was an asshole, who stepped on people below him to make his way, treated his workers worse than Trump and probably committed more financial crimes, too. He was soooo big, no one dared to indict or go against him. Carnegie may be the richest AND famous American to ever live.
 
Carnegie was big, but he’s also quite dead.

Amongst Living Americans, who has that magic mix of enduring fame and a billionaire’s fortune?
 
Lance all your political posts should be on the political board. Checking your profile you love Trump. Unless you want to talk about your trump sexual fantasies, like him sticking it in your ass. Why not do us all a favor and post that bs over there.

Can we please stop responding g to this clowns thread so it can disappear off the top of the pages 🥱
 
Lance all your political posts should be on the political board. Checking your profile you love Trump. Unless you want to talk about your trump sexual fantasies, like him sticking it in your ass. Why not do us all a favor and post that bs over there.

Can we please stop responding g to this clowns thread so it can disappear off the top of the pages 🥱
It's a fine line. Talking about how famous a person is isn't necessarily political. I could start a thread about Taylor Swift being the most famous woman in the US and that's not political and I doubt the admin would move it to the politics forum. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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His lovers are always hot, too.

Except the ones who claim he raped them. For some reason, they’re all kind rough looking.
 
Michael Bloomberg—$105B

Bill Gates—$107B

Warren Buffet—$150B

Mark Zuckerberg—$181B

Jeff Bezos—$197B

Elon Musk—$244B

Koch family (Charles)—$67.5B
 
Michael Bloomberg—$105B

Bill Gates—$107B

Warren Buffet—$150B

Mark Zuckerberg—$181B

Jeff Bezos—$197B

Elon Musk—$244B

Koch family (Charles)—$67.5B
From the first post: “There are lots of rich and famous Americans, but when you think about billionaires as table stakes then look at and add up the various categories of what constitutes fame in America..television shows, movie appearances, elected office, scandals, gossip, crime, newspaper headlines, media attention...”

Do you think any of them trump Trump in overall Fame?
 
From the first post: “There are lots of rich and famous Americans, but when you think about billionaires as table stakes then look at and add up the various categories of what constitutes fame in America..television shows, movie appearances, elected office, scandals, gossip, crime, newspaper headlines, media attention...”

Do you think any of them trump Trump in overall Fame?
yes
 
Michael Bloomberg—$105B

Bill Gates—$107B

Warren Buffet—$150B

Mark Zuckerberg—$181B

Jeff Bezos—$197B

Elon Musk—$244B

Koch family (Charles)—$67.5B
Holy crap. At some point you just gotta say I have enough money. Think how much they could accomplish if they used their money for altruistic purposes. Bit sickening really.
 
Lol.

It’s more than money, honey.

E.g. Trump is one of the most googled people of all time. Your others dont even beat that wife-beater johnny depp or old pointy tits madonna.

most people can’t name the children of the other men on your list, their wives and other lovers names, describe their homes….by comparison everyone knows everything about trump.

Sheer public exposure-Has any of them hosted SNL ( twice?) … won an Emmy?… had a top rated tv show…been in any movies?… had nearly 20 best selling books? Trump’s literally a household name.

What about variety of careers? Musk has started or bought a number of cool companies… your other suggestions are mostly reclusive 1 trick ponies…but trump has covered more turf and is more widely known.

Trump is the only convicted criminal and former president, that’s a big range of fame “achievements” compared to your other suggested men.

Musk is arguably the closest. Certainly richer x100 nearly… but not as famous not as well known as trump, i think we’d all have to agree on that but feel free to explain how I’m wrong!
 
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