Need feedback on this idea...

[sr71plt]

It won't be an insult just because some authors won't get mentioned. An insult to you probably because most people won't see it fit to mention honourable "Pilot" in the list. Raw nerves, me dear?

Yes, I thought you would get around to posting that. You're the one trying to set yourself up as an arbitrator of best quality here, not me. And on the basis of what? Raw chutzpah? Your high regard for yourself? Obviously. You exude that.

You obviously weren't really interested in discussion on this thread--just back stroking.

 

[Sammael Bard]

I say that if you really want to see this thread, post it with the caption "Great Reads" and begin it with "I've read stories on Lit, here are a name of few authors you might want to check out and some other stories. Thanks to the people of this thread that contributed into this. If you feel that an author has been left out, please post your suggestion here."

The call will be yours. Despite how much you say that readers voted this and this, it's going to be your favourites.

It is going to be unfair to other authors to a certain extent, only if you put it up there into a sticky. It's an unfair advertisement .You haven't read every single story on Lit. Post a normal thread, and I feel that'll be a better option.

Now calm down and cheer up.

I like the idea, though I think it'd work best if it's packaged as "The Soulful Bard's Story Picks" or similar (even if it's open to other reviewers too) rather than just "The Best Stories". The latter is probably going to lead to arguments.

Agreed. All around. It has already led to an argument here. I'll trash the "best part". That definitely sounds more reasonable.

 

[Sammael Bard]

Yes, I thought you would get around to posting that. You're the one trying to set yourself up as an arbitrator of best quality here, not me. And on the basis of what? Raw chutzpah? Your high regard for yourself? Obviously. You exude that.

You obviously weren't really interested in discussion on this thread--just back stroking.

Nah, it's you all the way down here. You can't participate in a discussion without you denigrating others and proclaiming that your opinion is what that matters.

I just give opinions, and am open to receive suggestions to get a better perception on the topic. I try to learn as I go.

You, on the other hand, give opinions, disregard others', denigrate people who disagree and then call it an adult conversation. Like I've said before, it's your nature to be condescending. And narcissistic. You just can't help your nature from spilling over onto your keyboard.

 

[sr71plt]

After just about everyone else responding here gave the same reaction I did--gently at first until you had become purposely blinders on about what I was advising.

Just you misusing your role of Mod again if you make it a sticky.

 

[sr71plt]

Nah, it's you all the way down here. You can't participate in a discussion without you denigrating others and proclaiming that your opinion is what that matters.

Again, this wasn't me making a grab at being the arbitrator of "best writing" here (on the basis of nothing to show yourself in that regard). It was--once again, misusing your Moderator role--you.

 

[TxRad]

A few for your consideration:

Selena Kitt

dr_mabeuse

DG Hear

Evil Alpaca

L.A. Wicker

RedHairedandFriendly

 

[JKendallDane]

Even though I highly question any justification of this being a sticky, it sounds as if you are going to go with the basic idea anyway, so I'll nominate the following for the GM category:

robcub32

reddirtwriter

kitten2010

DWSimon

Quite honestly, I would be a lot more excited about this idea if it was about having a thread to post "found gems in the rough" (ie: a single story or series that is pretty exceptional, but has never gotten attaboys on the top lists or due to the author being a pretty much unknown) rather than having a subjectively created, partial foggy mirror image of the HOF listings.

Maybe something along the lines of a Lit version of the old K-Tel 'One Hit Wonders' albums would be more appropriate and far less contentious.

 

[Sammael Bard]

Again, this wasn't me making a grab at being the arbitrator of "best writing" here (on the basis of nothing to show yourself in that regard). It was--once again, misusing your Moderator role--you.

Now there's a rule against mods opening threads asking for suggestions?

The idea's not even fixed. I'm not even sure if I'd want to open this thread. I'm not even sure if I'd want to make it a sticky. I haven't even decided if I'd even want to maintain it in the long run.

Oh Pilot the far-seer, you must've missed your medications.

Go get it.

 

[Sammael Bard]

A few for your consideration:

Selena Kitt

dr_mabeuse

DG Hear

Evil Alpaca

L.A. Wicker

RedHairedandFriendly

All great suggestions, Tx!

I'm just not familiar with L.A. Wicker. I'll check that author out.

Thanks.

 

[Sammael Bard]

I don't read GM category, so I'll trust your suggestion on that.

THAT is a great suggestion. I agree with all of your points. I definitely won't like to post something here that is contentious.

Thanks.

 

[Sammael Bard]

So....

Gathering the various erm...thoughts, I've changed the idea to this:

> It won't be a sticky.

Mostly because sticky threads are for posting rules and advertisement for stories in a forum. I'll be misusing it if I do that, so no sticky. I primarily thought about this because that thread would take time to get updated, and I compared the idea to the story advertisement thread here.

Anyhow, sticky it won't be.

> Title would be something like: "The Soulful Bard's Story picks" or something like this. No "Best Stories" or similar crap. That would be just plain...wrong, as a user put it in the PM.

> Stories and Author suggestion are welcome, as always, in this thread.

I never claimed to read every work here, but I want to read everything that's great, however fractional it might be as compared to the vast amount of stories here.

Thanks again to all who suggested authors and stories alike!

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Pompous turds like you piss on themselves.

And what you want is to hijack the board for a personal bully pulpit where you can anoint and appoint what you like.

 

[TxRad]

And what you want is to hijack the board for a personal bully pulpit where you can anoint and appoint what you like.

If you weren't such a clown I'd put you on ignore where you belong. You talking about someone else bullying is like a pit bull smiling.

 

[sr71plt]

JBJ isn't always wrong, though. In this case he's spot on.

 

[lovecraft68]

It can simply be called story recomendations leave "best" out of it.

Just a thread fro people to share the links of stories they have enjoyed.

 

[sr71plt]

Which they can do and have been doing (could do more of that, of course, I think--which I've already posted) without having the name of the Self-Anointed One slapped on it.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

If you weren't such a clown I'd put you on ignore where you belong. You talking about someone else bullying is like a pit bull smiling.

Take it up with the Soulful Tard.

 

[FantasyXY]

Bard,

Unlike the comments you seem to be getting, I actually think this a good idea... with one minor change. Gather up a small board of authors and readers and take submissions from this group only. The task would be to make sure the board members are diverse enough. That might mean that you would have to include readers/writers from multiple factions of sections like LW and Incest to get a good cross section of stories.

Of course with a board you would have to listen to people whining and flinging insults about who is and isn't included on the board. Maybe of JBJ and Pilot are on the board, the number of nasty comments will be minimal. Of course I am joking. Their posts on this thread tell me that they have a lot of passion on this subject.

Bottom line for me is I would probably read the stories selected as "good" by a well rounded board of Lit users. OMG, did I just suggest we start some sort of sick ass book club for wack off stories? I think I did.

 

[sr71plt]

So, you think that there is any subset of folks who can fairly pontificate on the "best writers" in the vast Literotica file? You think anyone here has read enough of what is on offer to have the chops to say what writers are the best across the whole file? Wow. Because that was the OP proposal (although Bard was nominating himself as that super person).

Are you sure you understand what JBJ and I were objecting to? (And had the guts to say so?) You have some sort of inner knowledge of Bard's credentials to sit on this throne?

(And, no, contrary to Bard's scurrilous remarks on this, I'm not claiming to be that position either--my whole point is that no one can do more than say what they like of what they've read based on their individual likes--which is fine but which was not the OP proposal--and that still isn't in its shamed down versions.)

 

[TxRad]

So, you think that there is any subset of folks who can fairly pontificate on the "best writers" in the vast Literotica file? You think anyone here has read enough of what is on offer to have the chops to say what writers are the best across the whole file? Wow. Because that was the OP proposal (although Bard was nominating himself as that super person).

Are you sure you understand what JBJ and I were objecting to? (And had the guts to say so?) You have some sort of inner knowledge of Bard's credentials to sit on this throne?

(And, no, contrary to Bard's scurrilous remarks on this, I'm not claiming to be that position either--my whole point is that no one can do more than say what they like of what they've read based on their individual likes--which is fine but which was not the OP proposal--and that still isn't in its shamed down versions.)

Or it can be someone making the recommendations who has been around long enough to remember who writes well. Not best but well. Yes it is an opinion but opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.

You want to make a recommendation, then make one. Period.

What is the problem with that besides who brought the idea up?

More backbiting bullshit from what i see.

 

[sr71plt]

Or it can be someone making the recommendations who has been around long enough to remember who writes well. Not best but well. Yes it is an opinion but opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.

You want to make a recommendation, then make one. Period.

What is the problem with that besides who brought the idea up?

More backbiting bullshit from what i see.

That's not the idea that was brought up. (Duh) And Bard has had to be shamed into whittling it down (although he's still going to be sitting on a throne as if he's some sort of authority on something--which seems quite obviously his goal. What the concept is being whittled down to is already possible and being done occasionally without his self-appointed patronage.).

 

[FantasyXY]

So, you think that there is any subset of folks who can fairly pontificate on the "best writers" in the vast Literotica file? You think anyone here has read enough of what is on offer to have the chops to say what writers are the best across the whole file? Wow. Because that was the OP proposal (although Bard was nominating himself as that super person).

Are you sure you understand what JBJ and I were objecting to? (And had the guts to say so?) You have some sort of inner knowledge of Bard's credentials to sit on this throne?

Yes! Of course I see the point to what you and JBJ are saying. What makes Bard King Shit anyway, right?

But here is my POV on this suggested reading list... I don't care one way or the other who passes judgement on my work. I also can't imagine how NOT being on Bard's magic list somehow affects me.

On top of that I still think it is hilarious that we are debating what amounts to a sick wack-off book club meeting. Who's bringing the cookies?

 

[legerdemer]

Just one person's opinion

Gathering the various erm...thoughts, I've changed the idea to this:

> It won't be a sticky.

Mostly because sticky threads are for posting rules and advertisement for stories in a forum. I'll be misusing it if I do that, so no sticky. I primarily thought about this because that thread would take time to get updated, and I compared the idea to the story advertisement thread here.

Anyhow, sticky it won't be.

> Title would be something like: "The Soulful Bard's Story picks" or something like this. No "Best Stories" or similar crap. That would be just plain...wrong, as a user put it in the PM.

> Stories and Author suggestion are welcome, as always, in this thread.

I never claimed to read every work here, but I want to read everything that's great, however fractional it might be as compared to the vast amount of stories here.

Thanks again to all who suggested authors and stories alike!

I would read at least some of the recommendations, probably, because I have a limited time and access to the stories, and this way I'd get to sample more of the site than the stories I reach now. I won't limit myself to the recommendations, of course.
The new wording is nicely more diplomatic and will make clear stories have been filtered through your "taste buds". Unless everyone posts and you get recommendations by PM, which it doesn't look like you will. As a reader, I do care who recommends because my tastes may align more or less with a particular author's. The Poetry Hangout has something along these lines, with everyone posting suggestions. I like that thread. It's a great complement to the Top Lists and to random walking through story and poem space.

 

[sr71plt]

Y I also can't imagine how NOT being on Bard's magic list somehow affects me.

Me neither, which, frankly is why I'm outraged that Bard went there on that point and why I see images of a crowd gathering around him drinking Kool-Aid that might lead to the easy button adulation he seems to be after.

The bottom line is that no one can do more here than note what they liked, on individualistic criteria, of the little they are able to read of what Literotica offers. They aren't in a position to claim anything is the best of anything here and would be asses to claim they could do so. We already occasionally have posters post here what stories they liked enough to note that here--which is a good thing, but which isn't what has been and is being proposed.

What we have here is a meglomaniac forum monitor (who, incidentally, has zero stories of his own posted to Literotica, has only been here for a year, and feels qualified to pontificate on who are the best writers here), which has been demonstrated in more than one dimension.

 

[lovecraft68]

In my opinion....

I would rather the thread not have a name associated to it and I'll explain why because I mean no offense to Bard.

If I see so and so's story picks or recommendations my first thought is, well if his taste and mine don't match, this is a waste. I may not even click on it.

But if its a more generic title....Readers, recommend your favorite stories here...it shows it will have variety.

Again, just my take.

Another thing I'd like to see , but doubt it would happen, is to somehow ask that people recommend stories that are a little more obscure.

fact is when someone says "Tx Tall Tales or Selena Kitt" or mentions stories like Paco Fear's "Words on Skin"

They get more than enough attention already, along with any story sitting at or near the top of a top list or an author who is sitting high on the fav author list.

Bottom line is most people already know them or if they don't will find them because they show up in a lot of places.

When someone contacts me and says, "Seen you on the boards, would like to check out your stories, what do you recommend?" I don't send them links to anything I have that's had success here I send them something on my page that's more obscure that could use a comment or some feedback.

Many of my favorite stories here are ones most have not heard of and I bet that's the same for many.

So when Bard gets this running I'll mention those stories and their genre and try to stick to that, I hope others will make an effort to link some "undiscovered gems" and not just the already "big shot" stories.

Just my take on it.