The_Fractal_King
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Get out of my head!
Seriously, it's really weird reading your posts because more than half the time you say something that I've been thinking.
Get out of my head!
Seriously, it's really weird reading your posts because more than half the time you say something that I've been thinking.
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Sorry!
Much of what I think I don't post. Apparently it isn't necessary. Unless you cover the other half. Or something.
bluebell
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I think, dear purple Hmmnmmish, you're going to have to accept the fact that you are a sage among minions and the voice of [scandalously ignored] reason among egoists.Sorry!
Much of what I think I don't post. Apparently it isn't necessary. Unless you cover the other half. Or something.
You say excellent things that turn simplicity into artful thought.
Simply put, rock on wit ya bad self.
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I think, dear purple Hmmnmmish, you're going to have to accept the fact that you are a sage among minions and the voice of [scandalously ignored] reason among egoists.
You say excellent things that turn simplicity into artful thought.
Simply put, rock on wit ya bad self.
Oh pleasefeel exposed
the purple parts blush
so, shhhhh
sorry for the belated reply as I was away of late - nothing serious. just away.
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Blue, it isn't that the conventions are wrong - they become conventions for reasons - but I think it's a mistake to think the conventions are absolutes. It can be beneficial to concur with them when the times call for them.
Today I am blessed to verify that the one about getting away from your work for a little bit is a good one. I opened up a random in-progress-thang, and it was like bursts of light, seeing where potential hitches were - and more importantly, I was able to see how to make them better, just from a couple days off.
Of course, it is still my choice to not necessarily change what seems obvious, now. Just have to understand that when you go against convention - let's say some of us just don't like to follow orders or rules - then you will likely pay a price. Sometimes 'tis but a scratch, or it might catch you off-guard and get into your head.
How's that?
Today I am blessed to verify that the one about getting away from your work for a little bit is a good one. I opened up a random in-progress-thang, and it was like bursts of light, seeing where potential hitches were - and more importantly, I was able to see how to make them better, just from a couple days off.
Of course, it is still my choice to not necessarily change what seems obvious, now. Just have to understand that when you go against convention - let's say some of us just don't like to follow orders or rules - then you will likely pay a price. Sometimes 'tis but a scratch, or it might catch you off-guard and get into your head.
How's that?
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bluebell
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Sometimes I want to squish the stuffing out of you.hmmnmm said:
feel exposed
the purple parts blush
so, shhhhh
sorry for the belated reply as I was away of late - nothing serious. just away.
Kind man. Wise man.
I would like to be "away of late" sometime. That would be nice.
That's very fine, and once again, truer words...hmmnmm said:
I have that rebellious streak inside myself as well. The instant I lay down a law internally is the instant I want to break it. And not just break it, but break it hard. Break it outside the realm of super glue. And that's when I find myself mad. And buggered.
Tempering is good, but some of us (I include you in this sweeping "us") are rather wishy-washy, eh? We need the room to be wishy-washy because it's kind of in the center of that midway funk that we connect with something.
For what it's worth, I've never been able to consider anything finished that didn't languish for a little while and bear repeat, but spaced out readings. Sometimes I'll read and tweak every day and sometimes it needs to become a cicada. Which I know would be no help to you (the cicada gestation). You like to poke your work with a big long stick and get your nose right up in there.
Which is still just grand.
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Sometimes I want to squish the stuffing out of you.
Kind man. Wise man.
I would like to be "away of late" sometime. That would be nice.
That's very fine, and once again, truer words...
I have that rebellious streak inside myself as well. The instant I lay down a law internally is the instant I want to break it. And not just break it, but break it hard. Break it outside the realm of super glue. And that's when I find myself mad. And buggered.
Tempering is good, but some of us (I include you in this sweeping "us") are rather wishy-washy, eh? We need the room to be wishy-washy because it's kind of in the center of that midway funk that we connect with something.
For what it's worth, I've never been able to consider anything finished that didn't languish for a little while and bear repeat, but spaced out readings. Sometimes I'll read and tweak every day and sometimes it needs to become a cicada. Which I know would be no help to you (the cicada gestation). You like to poke your work with a big long stick and get your nose right up in there.
Which is still just grand.
As always.
Lotsa blossoms here. Another multi-fingered delta.
Just for now: you're right on about the long stick and the nose. The long stick gives you that overview and the close nose gives you those details. Which, admittedly are easy to get lost in - which any real writer will be quick to admonish those like me who happen to not mind getting lost in details, but since I'm not a real writer like a lot of the really real writers, that's not something I should worry about, because how much would that suck, getting into those details, getting lost in those details, but then all of a sudden some of these real writers come along and now you're trying to enjoy the nearness of those bouquets, but you can't really because you keep looking over your shoulder, in case one of those real writers thinks to sneak up behind you and you know... and hey, I'm not no anti-sodomite, but I'd like to have some say in the matter.
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hmmnmm? I was wondering where you were hiding.
"Dogg Shitt
06/04/08 By: Anonymous in Southeast, U.S.A.
Real sorry I steped in this. "
Now, that is some intelligent feedback! I didn't bother with it. I didn't even bother to delete it. I'm glad I didn't, because another reader took the opportunity to validate my story's worth.
"Dogg Shitt
06/04/08 By: Anonymous in Southeast, U.S.A.
Real sorry I steped in this. "
Now, that is some intelligent feedback! I didn't bother with it. I didn't even bother to delete it. I'm glad I didn't, because another reader took the opportunity to validate my story's worth.
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Hiding?
Just layin' low.
Yeah, that's a pritty inelectch'l fan yew got'cherself.
I'd leave it. A medal. A prize.
And I think you're the one that's been hidin'
yep, you.
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The nerve.
The nervous.
The nervousness.
What nerve!
It must've been pretty good to make someone so upset to give you such a bad vote.
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pointless
¿por qué no?
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actually, it's one of my least favorite stories, but it's in the incest category, so... yeah. i just wrote it on a whim, but it has the most reads and votes of anything i've ever written. it also has the highest score.
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hey, hmmnmm... (sounds like I'm clearing my throat)
What can I do to convince you to put your photo back on as your AV?
What's up with your little tagline? Did I miss something? After ranting about my piece, "How to Become an Alienated Author," BFW has claimed the title of "Alienated Author." Did something happen that made you proclaim that you are not a real writer or is it just denial?
-Sheila
What can I do to convince you to put your photo back on as your AV?
What's up with your little tagline? Did I miss something? After ranting about my piece, "How to Become an Alienated Author," BFW has claimed the title of "Alienated Author." Did something happen that made you proclaim that you are not a real writer or is it just denial?
-Sheila
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help me find it? Heh.
no real reason
just messin around.
Actually there is sort of a reason, but this is not the place or time.
Okay - some of the reason: just yesterday I went through some old old stuff that I did when I was not shackled by the voices of How Tos and all the no-nos. Such ignorance produced stuff way way way better than anything I've done as I've learned 'about writing' and I'll even say that the more I learned 'about writing' the worse I became. I'd like to reverse the damage but I fear some of it might be permanent. But I blame no one but myself, because I should've known better than to listen to other people who sound like they know what they are talking about.
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Okay - some of the reason: just yesterday I went through some old old stuff that I did when I was not shackled by the voices of How Tos and all the no-nos. Such ignorance produced stuff way way way better than anything I've done as I've learned 'about writing' and I'll even say that the more I learned 'about writing' the worse I became. I'd like to reverse the damage but I fear some of it might be permanent. But I blame no one but myself, because I should've known better than to listen to other people who sound like they know what they are talking about.
Okay, I can relate. I am in a similar phase in my artwork. In some of the paintings that I've done lately, they feel almost sterile. Like with gaining technical skill, I'm losing raw creativity. I'm working on combining the two. Blaring music while I paint seems to help.
With writing, I get lost in the characters. Lately, stories have practically been writing themselves.
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ETA:
I wrote better stuff when I didn't think of myself as A Writer. It had a sharper edge, which I've lost. It had teeth, which I let get dull. And it was more ballsy. I still have those, but they've been in retirement too long. Of course I was much younger then, and a lot cockier. Time... and wear. And doubts. Inexcusable.
I wrote better stuff when I didn't think of myself as A Writer. It had a sharper edge, which I've lost. It had teeth, which I let get dull. And it was more ballsy. I still have those, but they've been in retirement too long. Of course I was much younger then, and a lot cockier. Time... and wear. And doubts. Inexcusable.
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Rawness! The raw! I think we tend to discount its value until we think we've refined it, and then we realize it had a lot to say just as it was.
Sumbitch!
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LadynStFreknBed
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Damn, you are hard on yourself.
Creativity is never stable and it never should be. You got growing pains. That's all.
I'm going to poke you with a stick now until you yell at me. You gotta get that demon out. What do you NEED to write? Whatcha tryin' to hide?
Writers write because we have to. I don't care what your lil' tagline says. I know better.
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Ow!
I guess the demon would be self-consciousness. I do kick it out once in a while, and life is always better. But somehow it creeps back. It's kind of blobby and... and... you know. It's a quiet one. It's a slithery and silent spirit killer. The stuff I found the other day helped a lot.
this is all cyclic, you know.
I was thinking of a fishing metaphor earlier today but it needs further development.
See! That's the fucking mistake! I should just go ahead and tell you instead of telling you I want to tell you something. Ten, twelve, fifteen years ago I would not have told you that. And I wouldn't have been so apologetic. And the very idea of spending more than the most minimally-required time on a piece of written words, would be unthinkable. On the other hand it is incredibly fun to doodle and tinker and experiment. Except for the piles of pieces that gather dust.
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I know. I remember reading some of your poetry.
Playing with words and form, that's what we do. That's what's connected to the child within. No need to ever be apologetic... well, unless you run over my daughter's cat.
You do seem guarded... telling me what you would like to tell me.. telling me what you used to be like... sorry, that's all bullshit. The real you doesn't need games like that. It doesn't need your protection. You just think it does.
guarded, guarded...
Where's the key to this padlock?
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