Once you go black...

[slichy]

I enjoyed it. But I usually do have to say, "No no no, she called me names!"

She probably forget your real name. White guys act alike. haha

 

[AlexAtNight]

She probably forget your real name. White guys act alike. haha

Thank you for that.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

So you've heard that saying:

"Once you go black, you'll never go back."

Is it true? Of course not. "Sexy" comes in all shapes, sizes and colors, and you never know who will catch your attention. "Never say never" is probably more accurate.

@ebony_pussy
Wanted to tag you as I put a lot of thought into my answer. Warning to you and to all, long post, hit the character limit, had to split it up.

I lived in Florida for a bit, but I am a northern boy trans and fuck it gets cold up here.

I understand that due to the lack of direct sunlight and how dark skin tends to block out harmful effects of sunlight, it also means darker skinned ladies need to take vitamin supplements just to be up here and also, it's too fucking cold!

I would keep you warm but... I know. It's still cold as hell and there's not a lot of black folks around, so, even if I light up your life it gets lonely here in lily white snow globe land.

But when I lived down south I had this beautiful girlfriend and she was big and sensual and smooth and I would kiss her everywhere.

Every. Where.

And I loved every inch of her body. When we made love and I caught our bodies in the mirror, it was eye-catching. Vanilla and chocolate, a beautiful contrast, and my god it felt so loving and sensual to the touch as well.

I understand some people fetishize the skin color difference and make racial or even outright racist fantasies in their porn or dating profiles.

I grew up in a place where you would almost never see a black girl, I had no idea, I did not fetishize. I wasn't really aware they were an option because I never saw them.

I met her through a dating profile meant for anyone, she was seeking a white guy and I was open to anyone. I'm not racist and I wasn't seeking someone for their racial attributes, I just wanted someone to snuggle-

And snuggle we did. She is a beautiful, loving woman, now married to a white man, and I wish them well.

I enjoyed everything about her for years. I miss her, too.

Is it true- well, I did go back to white girls because that's who was interested in me and those were who were available where I live.

I appreciate beauty in all forms.

But she was not a kink for me, she was not a racial fetish, she was a complete, loving, sensual woman I would have been honored to go through life forever with.

If we were 100 percent romantically compatible and fell in true love, not just extreme adoration and romantic interest and physical chemistry, I'd have married that girl and, indeed, never gone back.

You can't choose who you fall in love with, if I could, I would have, and I would be her white husband right now. Proud to be, too.

Still, whoever came up with "Once you go black..." was onto something. Black women often seem to have an extra...something. Sensuality? Sexuality? Physicality? Exotic looks and body?

Aja had it all... a beautiful warm, inviting smile.
She had smooth, silky, touchable skin.
Curves for days, she was a bigger girl, bigger than me, and I adored her for it. I wasn't just chasing a BBW, I simply said yes to who I saw. She was adorable to me, and I loved who she was. If she was my size or smaller I would have loved her too. She was everything I could want regardless of her exact size.

Sensual, my god yes. She loved massages and touching and kissing in the shower and rubbing our naked bodies together and she enjoyed teasing me by going around bottomless in her apartment and I wanted her on sight.

She knew how to attract me, for sure.

Sexuality, my god yes. She unlocked all my kinks.

She enjoyed oral sex all the time, giving and receiving, and I am a giver.
She enjoyed anal play, tongue, toys, fingers, vibrators, my penis. She even gave back, and I allowed it, because I trusted her. It was always comfortable and loving, between us.
She enjoyed bareback sex and my goodness that is hot.
I also loved the pink hidden inside her otherwise dark slit. It is quite the visual.... and the sensation.

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[ChloeOfCascadia]

Physicality- oh she could fuck for literally hours. We had a marathon 6 hours of lovemaking once, she came so many times.

I was never afraid of hurting her, she was so soft and delicate and sensual but also, built to absorb a firm fucking too. I loved her so much for that. She was so strong as well as sexy.

Exotic looks and body-

Well, sure, yes, she was unlike any girl I knew growing up, in some ways.

But in all the ways that mattered, she was familiar to me and she was home. I was safe in her arms, and loved.

I understand why some people will be drawn to her because she's not white. I appreciated her beauty but that isn't the specific reason I was with her.

I was with her for her personality and sensuality, and then, sexuality.

Or is it just urban legend?

I hear it from enough guys and from my friends and read about it often enough that I think there's something to it. Guys from different ethnicities, especially white guys, are often drawn to us, and some become addicted to something about us...our bodies? Our personality? Our scent?

You are as diverse as any other group of women, you can come in tall and skinny, rectangular and tall, short and wide, curvy as hell, big boobs, flatter chest, any personality you can think of.

I just happened to find a girl I clicked with mentally, emotionally, sensually and physically, and romantically.

I wouldn't say bodies or personality, because, the only thing guaranteed to be in common is their skin will be darker than mine. For the most part, I am aware there can be genetic conditions where they get born with really light skin and then people do not even recognize that they're genetically and technically black, even if not visually so. If you know that happens you can still see the telltale signs.

Scent, I don't know, she wore very nice scents from the lotions she would use, perfumes. It's artificial so, it will vary from woman to woman.

She specifically had a thing for white guys and wouldn't date black guys, which is unusual and just specific to her, so I wouldn't say it is always the case that these couplings happen just because of the skin color difference.

What is probably often true is we get raised in different traditions, and have different life experiences, and it is worth being open-minded and comparing and contrasting, tolerating and understanding.

But it may not always be the case there either, that might just be a north south thing. If you grow up poor in the south, you are going to share an awful lot of traditions and perspectives regardless of ethnicity.

So the bolded, I am not sure, there's too much variety to narrow it down, I think there's too many differences from person to person for those generalizations to hold true.

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[ChloeOfCascadia]

The way we FUCK?

I can't say I sampled a lot, but, in my anecdotal experience, hell yeah??

She could keep up with how much I wanted to fuck her, for sure. She had the energy to keep going and going and going, and had sooooo many orgasms, but that may have just been her.

I will say, if she's more typical for a black girl in terms of being kissy, snuggly, huggable, comfortable with nude embraces, being seen and watched while fucking, and just, inexhaustible sexual energy and romantic desire, then yes.

This might be the case, I can't say it isn't. Not from a sample size of one.

And there are people who take it a step further...and dare to venture the dark, dangerous waters of race play...

I am woke enough to realize how problematic this is.

The BBC fetish, the way black men and women are seen as dangerous or lower class or a fetish because it's wrong or taboo.... it's insulting and cruel and dehumanizing, and black folks have honestly been through enough racist crap for 100 lifetimes.

That said, look.... if it is something that excites you, and, outside of the roleplay and the game, it is an equal, loving, sensual, respectful relationship, whatever gets you both to an orgasm and loving each other, is my attitude.

I feel similarly about spanking and degrading language during sex, regardless of race- I get off on erotic spanking, for example, it surprised the hell out of me, I wasn't expecting that, but I really do, and when I am with a woman who enjoys it too, I'm perfect for her.

And it is absolutely consenting, respectful, loving, warm, comfortable, not painful, not abusive, and whenever we are not spanking her bare bottom, I promise you, I am the perfect gentleman/lady (being trans, a lot of gendered terms feel problematic for me, but I am not here to change the language.... I just live here).

Warm, loving, generous, romantic, sensual, respectful, worshipful.

But like, dirty pillow talk.... a lot of the terms used, even just for thrills, even if it means absolutely nothing except you want to be turned on, and I want to turn you on, I feel calling women a dirty slut, well.... that's a sexist term. It is demeaning and abusive, in every context except she is telling me to call her that and I know it thrills her and gets her submissive side purring.

Okay.

I still want to talk about it and make sure this isn't just internalized misogyny and it isn't abusive even considering the fact that she wants me to call her that.

And that's between a white couple, now add race, and there is going to be a lot of white guilt on my part for doing or saying anything demeaning.

It feels problematic to me on a whole additional level beyond the sexism of it, I have no innate desire to specifically demean any woman at all, let alone a black girl that I love and respect.

But, if she got a kinky thrill from being owned by a daddy.... and that would be true even if I were black, so it's not a racist as well as sexist trope, then... okay. If she really does want it.

I am fine without it. It is merely a kind of spice in the spice drawer, and if that's the spice she likes, okay. I can be in. But it's for her, so she has to really want that, because I need to know she finds this exciting and loving, because if she doesn't, I would feel like a real heel.

I would feel like Leo Dicaprio did while filming Django Unchained levels of racial guilt and horror at what role I am playing.

But to be clear, it is a role, and also, an important one for that movie, and.... if everyone involved fully understands it is a role being played, and I do not share the views of the "character" I am playing, okay.

In a safe and loving environment we can play.

But wow, that's uncomfortable and dangerous and disrespectful feeling,

I wonder sometimes if I shouldn't just take the stance that I will never, even if she asks for it.

But that is more than a little patronizing and problematic itself-

Am I supposed to tell a woman who enjoys erotic spanking and I enjoy erotic spanking that because, if I were actually hurting her, it would be abuse, and demeaning of her as a woman, and I don't think she is an adult who can make her own choices, then I would also have an issue with binding her wrists or legs or putting a blindfold on her, or having a dominant sexual position where she's face down, ass up, and basically, I assign politics and wokeness to our sexual expressions and, we can't even have fun.

And it's patronizing as hell. To tell an adult woman she can't make her own sexual choices in the bedroom.

I also know in my heart I am not racist or sexist and whatever we do in the bedroom is for her pleasure first, mine second, and the thrill is that she's getting off on it, otherwise we wouldn't do it.

And I am kind and woke and respectful and loving and we are equals in all matters outside of that.

In that scenario, yes, we can safely explore the dangerous waters of whatever could be considered problematic if someone didn't know us.

But I personally will not call her very abusive, very sexist, very racist, very degrading things, it is too... harsh, jarring, and it kills MY mood. If that makes sense.

If it is problematic when looked at from the wrong angle, without knowing who we are, like some daddy dom / daddy's girl dynamic, or "master"/"sub" relationship, and I'm the daddy or the master, and I'm white, oooooh, that looks wrong. It does, and that is why I would stay away from it.

Unless, that's the thing she needs to feel sexually thrilled, and she can make her own choices in the bedroom.

Does that make sense? Is that okay? I still think about the ethics and morality of it but I think I am on very solid ground here, even if I could potentially be judged by my peers for it.

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[ChloeOfCascadia]

Tell me what you think. Tell me what you've experienced.
And let's make this a judgenent-free zone.

I think, actually respecting someone as a person, deep down in the core of them, and not being racist, is wonderful.

I think being aware of racial or racist tropes and how they can be problematic is good.

But frankly, this world could use a lot less bigotry and a lot more love, so, if sexual attraction and mutual sexual desire is the thing that brings us together....

Look, even back in the day when it was SUPER problematic for white folks to be dating and marrying and having children with black folks, because half of that relationship had no civil rights, no vote, were often literally owned by their partner, which is extremely not okay, people still actually genuinely did have sexual attraction and fell in love.

So in the middle of the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT of racism, bigotry, sexism, and unfair, unethical, immoral power dynamics, love and attraction still did occur. And I'm talking outside of the sexual crimes, those do not count as love or us coming together.

What I mean is, even when people grew up in an era where the laws, the culture, and all the beliefs in the society were that we are fundamentally different and one is better than the other, people saw past that and saw a loving human being.

And it helped quite a few people realize, no, we are all human, and have humanity, we are not all evil white folks, and black folks are just as valid and worthwhile as white folks, and deserving of love and respect and human rights, and the culture needed to change, the laws needed to change.

There's still racism and problematic persecution and abuse of people by ethnicity, by the state, but, things have gotten remarkably better by comparison to the worst times.

And it allows someone like me, to actually be in an equal, loving, kind, passionate, for real love with a black girl, and she can love me and see me as someone who will never hurt or abuse her, and my ethnicity, doesn't even enter in to why she loves me.

And our families might be assholes and make assumptions and stupid comments and they don't matter.

What matters is how we treat one another, and whether their bad attitudes got passed on to us.

For my part, I am very aware my grandmother, now dead, was super racist and told me not to move to Florida, because black folks were dangerous.

She's dead, she didn't raise me, and she was wrong, the most dangerous folks in my experience, by far, were my white employers and governors and senators and president. Those are the people that destroyed the country and hurt me and stole my wages.

Black folks, on the other hand, were in the same economic situation as me, they were hard workers, respectful, tolerant, and kind to me even when I was the rare white guy in a mostly black poor section of Pine Hills, Orlando.

They accepted me, they treated me like I belonged, even though, people with my skin color had been mistreating them all their lives.

I will never forget how much crap black folks put up with collectively and then don't shit back out at me in return, when it would be completely understandable, even if I'm not their specific tormentor.

I will never forget how accepting and loving Aja was.

I may live in the cold, cold north, but if there were a woman in my life who happened to be black, I'd keep her warm. Always, and not just literally. I would be romantic and loving and treat her like a queen, just the same as I would for all my white girlfriends and later, my wife.

It's all the same, even if some things are different. The differences are a spice of life, not that consequential.

I think attraction based on race, is a form of racism that is internalized and accepted and can be problematic at the same time it is beneficial, it's like believing all asians are good at math and science and then expecting it.

A racial trope or belief, even when seemingly positive, like asians are smart, or black folks are sexually desirable, can be loaded with problematic baggage and unfair expectations.

It might not be entirely healthy, is all I am saying.

But, a person marrying their bought and paid for human being and freeing them from slavery, is that really healthy, even if it is loving and positive?

On their part, the person previously owned and treated like a machine or an owned animal, got the upgrade in treatment, but that would be an upgrade you take because it's an improvement, not necessarily because you would freely choose to be with them.

So.... even something that seems heartwarming and loving and positive, might not be entirely ethical, or fair, and.... it can come with baggage.

Like, there were undoubtedly, even in the most woke and progressive people of the day, still issues. Abraham Lincoln, the emancipator, wrote at length how he viewed the races as unequal and it just so happened, he didn't want the south to have too many slave states because then wealthy slave and land owners would control too many votes, it wasn't really about the freedom and injustice issues.

So even the heroes of these stories were often, not pure, not good intentioned, not properly ethically or morally motivated.

They were an improvement, a lesser villain, who did good things and deeds, but they were still hugely problematic.

If I bought a person, and gave them a ring to "free" them, that's just human trafficking and sexual slavery, still.

So....

(wow, a part five.... dang!)

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

....There are still issues even in the kindest of those situations because everyone involved in the power struggle and had privilege, and they used it to get what they wanted, and black folks had to.... just.... take what opportunities there were available to advance, with zero representation, no vote, no civil rights, no education, no wealth and no land, and being severely mistreated.

God. You can tell I was born in the USA because I'm so, so aware of how horrid white folks in the south were, and even the northern whites were merely good by comparison, they were still pretty much scum. Everyone was back then.

It's my responsibility to not continue any of the racist abuse in my generation and teach against it to the next generation. Both my kids will be aware, racism is morally wrong and there's still generational injustices and modern day oppression to watch out for, it was not all cleaned out even after several civil rights movements.

But.... we do live in a world where it's possible, for almost all situations, for a white and black couple to have equal rights, equal opportunities, equal property, equal vote, equal representation, have supportive family members, everyone involved can be woke, and the couple can be absolutely as functional and loving as the ideal couple, and, we can be comfortable enough with each other where, stuff that could have been problematic in other times, is not anymore.

Because I have absolutely done erotic spankings with most of my white girlfriends. So it's not a racial thing for me. And if she wants it and gets off on it, and we love each other, it's fine.

And if she wants me to call her a dirty slut, if that is what she really wants, or if she wants to call me daddy or master, okay.... let's talk about why it can be problematic, but also, if that is what you fully want, voluntarily, that sexual kink.... you are emancipated and you are a free and functional and well adjusted adult, and as long as we are both aware, there is no sexism or racism or abuse of any kind actually happening, no actual disrespect, no real power imbalance between us, it's only a game and roles we are playing, it is safe, it is fine, I think it is healthy.

And it can be not only kinky, but a form of sexual liberation.

We are now so past that bullshit, as a couple, it now no longer hurts to the extent that we can actually play around it, as a game?

We might not be fully to the promised land of racial and sexual equality for all, no... but we are close enough that we can safely play games around a power imbalance, because we actually have such comparable and otherwise equal powers in life now, it doesn't bring up or perpetuate actual trauma.

We're getting there.

Intellectually provocative thread topic. Thank you for reading, if you did.

I know I'm long winded and loaded with white guilt and wokeness politics.

But I am also a red blooded warm individual with sexual and romantic appetites and I have loved a black girl despite being a white something or other. (trans now, identified as male then)

I also note, I tend to find allies among the rest of the LGBT+ rainbow, and, from black folks, because we're all struggling against oppression. We should struggle for equality and egalitarian goals together, as natural allies.

Sometimes we're not, though. No group is a monolith.

One last comment, yes, I am aware I could be thinking about this too much, as an overreaction to past injustices I was not a part of, but, I think because of generational injustices, the privilege of being born to generations of parents who were not systematically oppressed, got an expensive education and upper class jobs when I grew up, I may be dirt poor now, but I still had super advantages in life in a manner that is unfair by comparison to the average black experience in the USA.

And, it is better to be aware that generational injustice and modern systemic racism still exists, and that my privilege is an inborn injustice, and that I have a duty to not perpetuate the problems black people face, because I have a duty to my fellow human beings to be an ally, not a bystander or an oppressor.

It's better to err on the side of, "am I sure I am not causing more hurt, and that I am helping and that I am not taking advantage of anyone."

It's okay to check and make sure my partner actually really wants to be spanked or call me master, when that would be super problematic for sexist or racist reasons, if that was something I wanted and they did not, and I wanted it because of white supremacist beliefs or male supremacist beliefs or otherwise just wanted to abuse my partner regardless.

I am just aware it can be problematic. And I check to make sure it isn't before I engage in any roleplay or romantic or sexual situations where it could be problematic.

I think I'm more comfortable being called daddy than master, and, if you really want to get spanked hard, I might very well be too gentle a dom for you. You might want to get someone a little more comfortable with that. I might be comfortable with about half as much as someone who only accepts consent as the limit, and otherwise doesn't care about the ethics involved.

To be fair, most of this stuff is in my head, I try to keep racial or gendered politics out of the every day conversation so we can just be free people with equality together and enjoy it instead of wallowing in the problematic behaviors elsewhere and in the past.

So, when you ask me "whatcha thinking about"

A lot, sweetie. A lot. But mainly that you're sexy and gorgeous and I want to make love to you. How about we start with that.

 

[TattooedandHorny]

So you've heard that saying:

"Once you go black, you'll never go back."

Is it true? Of course not. "Sexy" comes in all shapes, sizes and colors, and you never know who will catch your attention. "Never say never" is probably more accurate.

Still, whoever came up with "Once you go black..." was onto something. Black women often seem to have an extra...something. Sensuality? Sexuality? Physicality? Exotic looks and body?

Or is it just urban legend?

I hear it from enough guys and from my friends and read about it often enough that I think there's something to it. Guys from different ethnicities, especially white guys, are often drawn to us, and some become addicted to something about us...our bodies? Our personality? Our scent?

The way we FUCK?

And there are people who take it a step further...and dare to venture the dark, dangerous waters of race play...

Tell me what you think. Tell me what you've experienced.

And let's make this a judgenent-free zone.

Im a white guy and dated a few black women. And I absolutely love black women

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

It's funny, I've taken "black cherries" off several white guys. They're always so excited about getting their first taste of "dark meat," and I feel some pressure to PEFRORM because I don't want to disappoint them.

I always try extra hard to make it memorable and special for them.

In just a few posts of this thread I can already tell how much you consider your partner's needs.

That's wild and attractive on an intellectual level. I am so used to the personality type of being selfish, not to a toxic level, but it is just the default mode of people in general to think of "me" first.

There's a lot of empathy going on in your head and I think that's more rare than it should be and really valuable to a prospective romantic partner.

I hope you get to be with people who value you as much as you value their needs and wants and desires.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Not really that into guys going down on me....


KIDDING bahaha I fucking LOVE getting my pussy CONSUMED as long as you csn go without DROWNING

"Had us in the first half, not gonna lie" meme goes here.

I am proud of the pounding my face can take, and I am a scuba diver when it comes to the breathing and not drowning part.

As for the orgasms well, whoever I am with has generally had a comfortable experience that is both memorable and enjoyable. How enjoyable, is a thing for certain women to find out. Everyone can talk a big game, performing is another, so it's more like a play and find out situation.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

I think therr's a tendency for black women to be uninhibited. I think our sexuality is close to the surface, so it shows through a lot, and once it's out, it's wild and free and sggressive, like a panther.

Of course, this is a generalization, i've known (and fucked) wildly sexual women of ALL types.

Yes, in my limited experience, just.... very in tune with their needs, wants, desires, and feelings, and those of their partner.

Which makes for an incredibly sensual experience where people are having fun and so is their partner.

I dunno if that's a racial thing or just a personality thing. There's all kinds.

Sometimes we pattern seeking animals see patterns that aren't there, but we think they are due to our limited experience. The unfortunate basis of some racist beliefs, can also result in positive stereotypes.

Play and find out, see if it is true, that's what I think.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Mmmmm yeah baby oh that cock feels so gooood dadddy get up in there YES YES OH YESSSS fuck just like that big boy get thstcbig cock WAYYYYY up in my pussy MMMHMMM MMMHMMMM YES DADDY OH FUCK YESSSS OH I'M CUMMING ALLLL OVER THAT BIG COCK...

...mmmmm....yeahhh baby that's how my WHORE CUNT likes to be fucked, stretch me out baby ohhhhh god so fullll mmmm....cmon pound me daddy TAKE THAT PUSSY FUCK ME HARDER YESSSSS OH YESSSSS....

Meanwhile I am the perfect "gentleman" during this monologue and I listen very carefully and follow instruction and I am fully invested in what she's saying and how it's affecting my body and yes, I will fuck you harder, and yes, when you cum all over that big cock I cum too.

I would like to return the favor and tell her wild sexual and primal things into her ears, telling her what she's doing to me, like I'm telling her a naughty secret, while I'm fucking her deep while she's in prone or missionary position and I can get really close to her ears.

And suck on them and kiss her neck and revert to a wild animal state.

She looks like she's having fun giving in to her baser instincts and I am liable to join her. I feel less self conscious about it if we're both deep in it.

But excellent example of a woman enjoying calling herself slutty names, I can get down with that if I know for a fact it turns her on and she's okay with it.

I'm afraid of offending otherwise but, sometimes, with sex, it's not about thinking and it's not about what is perfectly reasonable, sometimes it's about instinct and feeling what we feel uncensored.

A lot of it can have baggage or be problematic if we examine it but during fun sexy time maybe is the wrong time to examine it.

Maybe the right thing to do is return that sentiment right back and go oh yes baby, take my cock like a good girl. I wanna see you cum while dancing your cute naked ass all over that cock. Ride that pole like a good girl, baby. It feels so good to fuck you. You're mine, right now. I'm going to cum inside you baby. Take that fucking cock. Squeeze me nice and tight baby.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Y'know...kinda like that

*returns to proper, mature civilized adult having a simple discussion mode*

Mmmmm... yes. Rather. Quite right.
I believe the good lady has made a rather poignant point. I do declare.
*wears a monocle*

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Thank you for sharing that, I appreciate the thought.

I think you brought up a good point, black women can be intimidating. We tend to be pretty outspoken and even defiant sometimes. We sometimes speak loudly, and react aggressively if we feel threatened or disrespected.

I believe this is because we're often not treated well by others, including even our black brothers and white sisters.

Others say we're just bitches

Anyway...some seem to like our honesty and outspokenness, and some white guys even go to the point of liking to be dominated.

Again limited experience dating wise, but, I lived in basically an all black part of town and work environment was the same, and basically, I always showed respect and courtesy and I was everyone's favorite person and I sincerely do not believe it was because I was white and also technically a supervisor, because there were others.

I was the favorite because I treated people kindly in addition to being treated like people with deserved respect.

I found that, in my experience, if you demonstrate by living that life, that you respect and can be kind to a black person of any gender, they will respond by at the very least considering you to be one of the good ones.

It doesn't make all the hurt go away, or the skepticism, or the expectation that I may not understand what they're going through. I don't, not fully. But on a human level I can try.

And I think that's all most people want. And if someone's finally just showing them the kindness and respect they wanted all along, they tend to just shower you with kindness and affection in return.

Might explain why I have such a good opinion of a racial/ethnic group, I felt more welcome there than anywhere else, including among other white folks.

I guess there may be an element of subconscious positive discrimination going on, which like any racist trope isn't always entirely without baggage, but fuck it. Positive relations between people who care about each other is a good thing.

There are worse reactions to racial differences, let's say.

To your last point, I am a dom myself, not a submissive, so it's not that.

I actually like it when people are gentler and more sensitive and caring and considerate and empathetic. I suffered a lot of abuse in my life and very much don't need more.

And if someone was a jerk to me for no reason, regardless of race, I'm walking away for their sake and mine, so I respectfully disagree with you on that last point, but I think you were making a shot in the dark guess anyway.

I just found that, whenever the attitude is not warranted, because the person feels heard, respected, given the proper treatment, and safe, the deep need to feel heard and respected goes away, and the need to shout or be intimidating to get what they deserve, also goes away.

It just leads to a person feeling what they've wanted to feel all along, and their reaction in this case is almost invariably "cool.... so this is what it feels like to be treated with respect. I like you."

Well, I like being liked. So, call it a match made in heaven.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Last night I logged in to Forum and I got blasted with pm's, including some weird and creepy ones. I told a few guys off.

One guy used the "n" word and I got mad and shut him down. But I kind of overreacted, he wasn't directing it at me, he was quoting someone, he was seeing a dommy black girl who used the word.

Anyway dude, if you happen to read this, the story you were telling is part of the experiences we're talking about here, so you have permission to pm me again or post here.

There's that empathy and human understanding again. Putting the thoughts and feelings of others into consideration even when you got upset or felt uncomfortable or unsafe.

That's amazing. That's a you thing, not a race thing. that's you being a valuable and interesting cut above the rest kind of person regardless of race or preferences.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

I think, sexually, I embody what white guys think a black woman will be like in bed.

They love my body. I'm on the tall and slender, you'd probably day "athletic". Long, fit legs, a sexy walk, a tight bubblebutt ass.

My skin tone slighly on tbe dark side. Not muscular but tight and fit.

I had a very different experience-

shorter than me, not slender, very different body shape, shapely butt yes, big chested, heavier set woman.

Darker skin almost certainly.

What I think about when I think of black women is touch, moreso than the visual.

For reasons we're both aware of, ebony folks are more liable to use lotion, because when they get dry skin, they can visibly see it.

It's like Bill Burr said, in his standup, he's been ashy all his life but he cant see it because he's whiter than the background of Lit on my screen.

So dry skin that flakes off is just.... very white. seemingly pigment free.

So darker skinned folks seemingly always put on lotion and you know what, their skin is incredibly smooth and soft and lovely to touch.

My hands, also, I see the visible contrast when I am giving her a massage or just caressing her in a romantic way, or touching her with my hands in a sexual way.

My hands have a love affair with black girls because you tend to make your skin so incredibly touchable and you're sensual and you want to be touched.

And I want to touch.

So..... that's part of the allure, yes. However way people show affection and make love and have erotic sexy fun times with their hands, that's what my hands are for, and black girls are drawn to my hands and my touch, and I'm drawn to touching them.

I think that's true regardless of height or build or size.

Also, beneath the tough, willing to defend themselves and their rights exterior, they're just human beings and very warm.

I was abused, A LOT, in my life, and that just made me very very empathetic to other people's suffering and not wanting to be part of perpetuating that suffering.

I think something I have in common with a lot of black folks is the bullshit they've put up with and the unfairness has led them to generally understand other people's suffering, and have a wish not to perpetuate it, leading to shared politics of the woke variety, despite our very different life experiences sometimes or geographical home location often times.

Very different lives but, our shared humanity and shared suffering of different sources and varieties, means empathy happens a lot, and then, there's your common ground.

I could be talking out of my ass but I think, analogous to the way game recognize game (tm), people with empathy recognize it in others.

TLDR I think in general black women (maybe men too, I dont know) have great touchable skin because they take care of it so well, and.... I like touching.

That's at least some of the physical attraction but I wouldn't have known that before dating my first black girl so. It can't just be that.

It's definitely a personality thing, I matched with Aja by reading the words she was saying, and liking them. So, it's skin colorblind to me. But she was looking for a white guy specifically, so, can't say it's only personality in our case, just my case.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

Guys like kissing me. Thry like feeling my skin, my body. The foreplay is usually great.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

The touching before the sex is great, leads to great sex.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

A lot of guys like the more full-figured African figure.

MMmmm that's what happened for me. In result, if not intention...

I have tried to date slender girls but they don't go for me for whatever reason in my experience so, I typically ended up with bigger girls my whole life.

I'm not complaining, I'm not a chaser of either variety, I experience a lot of love and attraction to a great wide variety of women.

I am generally selecting from the women available to me, which have mostly been bigger girls, and white ones, due to my location, which is usually very north.

Bigger because, willing to date me because some guys aren't attracted to bigger girls, their loss, they're good fun.

White because, the colder it gets, nobody got time for that. I want warmer climate myself, get me out of here. LOL

Not too much direct sunlight or I will get the skin cancer but a little cooler than florida and more sun that fucking Norway in the winter would be nice.

20 hour long nights, always below freezing for most of the year, get me the fuck out of here.

But yeah.... I'm agnostic / indifferent to whether someone's slender or bigger, I just want them to be female and comforting and attracted to me and touchable and sensual.

I was not aware of my GF's body type until we went out on a date. I wasn't complaining, but I did not choose her for her body type. I was attracted, I loved it, very much, but if she had been slender and the same exact personality, it still would have happened, all of it.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

A lot of white guys [non-black guys] and some black guys like tall, leggy athletic girls, which is more where I fit in. The "ultimate" girl in that categort may be Angel Reese, a star in the WNBA who recently walked the runway and KILLED IT at the Victoria's Secret show.

I like legs that go for days, very touchable, and athletic but not flat butts, are amazing as well.

So yeah, those legs and that ass, in lingerie, will melt me like a blowtorch on an ice cube for sure.

 

[ChloeOfCascadia]

My breasts are 34C, which is kind of mid-range. "A nice handful" lol. Very firm.

My nipples are VERY dark, pretty much black.

One guy who really adored me almost to the point of worship, he said my nipples are BLACK AS COAL, HARD AS DIAMOND.

The nipples are pretty big. The areolas are sharply defined and maybe the size of a half-dollar. When fully erect, my nipples stick out like half an inch and are pretty thick.

They like to be played with and stimulated. I'm a little sensitive to pain, except when I'm really aroused.

*uses imagination*

*imagination intensifies*

A handful of sensitive breast that likes to be played with and stimulated is the dream breast.

Pain, no worries, just need to be very gentle until you tell me to go harder. That's all.

I am not a fan of pain. Not mine, and not my partner's.

Big, firm, erect nipples are also fun. Because they are a mouthful and I have an oral fixation. I also like having very sensitive places on my partner's body that she wants me to touch and stimulate while I'm holding her.

So.... my chest to her back, arms wrapped around her warmly, kisses on the neck and shoulders, hands cupping and being very gentle with the breasts, feathery touches bringing her nipples to the fully erect and aroused position, and touching around them to the point where she's being teased and her panties are getting soaked and she needs that direct touch why aren't you touching them directly touch touch touch

Okay, I can help you with that.

*places lips around a nipple and swirls my tongue around the sensitive tips in circles, gently squeezes the nipple between my tongue and the soft palate, sucks ever so gently, not enough to hurt.*

I can touch. I just wanted to get your attention first. I like to make you crave it a little before I give you what we both want.

That's a fun game.

Tease and denial, less fun, more of a power play.
Tease and gratify, lots more fun. That's the games I play.

 

[S1e2t3h]

I’m a white dude who has been with a grand rotal of two black women. If I reflect back on what attracted me to both of them it is the exotic thought of fucking with someone sufficiently different to make it stand out compared to someone from a similar ethnic background. I say this as I think the attraction of Asian women to me is also the exotic nature of the difference in appearance.
The eroticism of an encounter, for me at least is definitely enhanced by the contrast in skin color but then dark haired white women are more attractive to me than blondes so is blackness any different than any other personal trait that may or may not be attractive to someone?

 

[RedmanReaction19]

Most of the IR porn I've seen is always set up the same way, with white surrender ( maybe not the right word ) and Black dominance ( not necessarily Dom/sub ) no matter if it's BM/WW or WM/BW. It may be subtle but I think it would be much harder to watch if that was reversed or, more extreme, if it gets into race play.

To me, light raceplay works, but when the scenes get gonzo and become less about sex and more about brutality, I absolutely won't watch . . . and I won't even click on them if that seems to be what's teased.

 

[slichy]

To me, light raceplay works, but when the scenes get gonzo and become less about sex and more about brutality, I absolutely won't watch . . . and I won't even click on them if that seems to be what's teased.

Cameras are pretty much an oh shit button now. Play is always going to go further when nobody is recording it but also alot of extreme gonzo shit is not made very well.

 

[RedmanReaction19]

Cameras are pretty much an oh shit button now. Play is always going to go further when nobody is recording it but also alot of extreme gonzo shit is not made very well.

Very true. Porn shouldn't leave me feeling sorry for any of the actors involved, but sometimes I really wonder if the women fully understand what they're getting into. Degradation isn't sexy.

 

[Mike130]

Yea. I'm mixed but I've never felt like I belong here more than there or anything but still funny to tease white guys.

Sounds intriguing…