One Big Beautiful Bill Act

[Lazaran]

Man people who vote for their demise out of party loyalty are a trip!

I laugh real hard at common MAGAts for that very reason.



I laugh even harder at those on "the left" ("the left" allegedly being Muslims, the LGBTQ community, Hispanics, black people, etc) who voted for DonOld & the MAGAt republicans (or didn’t vote for Kamala & the Democrats) because of Gaza, economic & social disparities, the fucked up immigration system, and because "Democrats are just as bad as republicans":



HOW DOES "THE LEFT"l LIKE THINGS NOW???



HAPPY???







We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

MAGA Rep Admits Trump Scammed People With Budget Bill

Representative Mike Lawler, who is in a swing district, seemed unbothered by the potential consequences of his admission.

https://newrepublic.com/post/197610/maga-representative-donald-trump-budget-bill-tax-tips

 

[PaxNurgle]

Yay! I’m so happy right now. I’m new here but just had to chime in about this fantastic news.

Dude... Harpy, horatio, Pintler, Rebel...whatever..

Just stop. Stop pretending. Stop with this shit. We know this is you. "I'm new here." funny, 86all would have us believe the same thing, and he's been here for fifteen years and 96 iterations.

You want to have an honest discussion, grow the fuck up and stop pretending to be fifteen different people.

 

[pinkparkhorse]

Dude... Harpy, horatio, Pintler, Rebel...whatever..

Just stop. Stop pretending. Stop with this shit. We know this is you. "I'm new here." funny, 86all would have us believe the same thing, and he's been here for fifteen years and 96 iterations.

You want to have an honest discussion, grow the fuck up and stop pretending to be fifteen different people.

I literally have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I joined the site recently to be able to comment on stories and maybe try writing some myself. I didn’t realize there was a political forum and thought that was interesting. I was excited to see there were a few conservative comments and wanted to chime in. Maybe I shouldn’t have.

 

[stxjimmy]

It's amazing how you can give someone a doughnut and all they see is the hole. What a pathetic way to go through life.

Homer Simpson school of philosophy

 

[pinkparkhorse]

This!

And let's call this bill for what it is: an attack on the bottom 20%, which is a helluva lot of people in the poorer red states including that weirdo SOTH weasel's state.

Yeah, the 40–75% might feel it if they use SNAP or Medicaid, especially those making under $50K, but most earning over $60K aren’t relying on these programs nearly as much.

And notice, it’s mostly the supremely selfish circle jerk Boomers in this forum applauding this bill. They’re most likely retired, covered by Medicare and Social Security, and shielded from the fallout. Look at the names of those posters using the prayer emoji and liking the bill, all over age 65.

But for everyone else, you never know when you’ll need help, job loss, illness, or just bad luck in this era of uncertainty.

Red states voted for this thinking they’re hurting the people they hate most, but they’ve just voted to make their own states poorer and less educated. Good job, MAGAts.

The bill is not an attack on the bottom 20%. The tax cuts mostly go to higher earners because they pay the most taxes. They are also the most productive members of society and overtaxing them stifles innovation. Keeping taxes low leads to economic growth which helps everyone.

The idea that people who actually need Medicaid and food stamps are going to lose them is nonsense. People who are able to work will have to do so in order to get Medicaid. That’s common sense and should have been done before. Those who cannot work, the disabled, etc aren’t losing anything. And the food stamp “cuts” are mostly reduced funding to states that aren’t managing the program properly and issuing erroneous payments or overpayments. Basically if you have a 5% screw up rate you get 5% less federal funding, etc.

Illegal immigration is a major burden on the country and harms the bottom 20% probably more than anyone. This bill allowing for increased deportations is going to be an immense help.

This bill is a win for America whether some people want to believe it or not.

 

[PaxNurgle]

I literally have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I joined the site recently to be able to comment on stories and maybe try writing some myself. I didn’t realize there was a political forum and thought that was interesting. I was excited to see there were a few conservative comments and wanted to chime in. Maybe I shouldn’t have.

Maybe you shouldn't have made yet another screen name when you already have fifteen of them. Why not just resurrect one of your old ones you don't use anymore, like Bud Spencer or Wizzard1488? Why do you keep creating new ones?

Stop pretending you "just joined this site." You didn't. I've been reading through your bullshit for the last seven or eight years and no matter what you call yourself, we always know it's you.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I literally have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I joined the site recently to be able to comment on stories and maybe try writing some myself. I didn’t realize there was a political forum and thought that was interesting. I was excited to see there were a few conservative comments and wanted to chime in. Maybe I shouldn’t have.

I don’t believe you. You’ve made a total of 9 posts since you joined a month ago, and all of them are in the Politics forum.

 

[LLCox]

My thoughts on trumps Billionaire Bill.

 

[ll74]

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

View attachment 2552169

This is incorrect. There is nothing that says it only applies if you make less than $25K. You can deduct up to $25K in tips from your taxable income. Tips above $25K are taxed. For example, a waiter who makes $75K in wages and tips can deduct up to $25K of the tip portion of total income.

 

[PersonalFavors]

I haven't been able to find the rules on no tax on tips or overtime. Which those don't affect me.
The deductions have increased for 65 and over. The standard deduction has increased which will make it fewer people having to itemize. The line changed. The amount deducted did not. Maybe those fudging a little on their taxes won't feel as comfortable lying as before.
I haven't found it specifically but I do believe the property tax deduction has increased. Which is the fed allowing states/counties to collect taxes and give us 'some' back. That is not an increase.
The brackets and taxes are the same as they have been.
New 2025 Tax Brackets: Single Filers and Married Couples Filing Jointly
Taxable Income (Single)
TaxPerBracket
10%
Not over $11,925 = 1192
12%
Over $11,925 but not over $48,475 = 4386
22%
Over $48,475 but not over $103,350 = 12072
24%
Over $103,350 but not over $197,300 = 22548
32%
Over $197,300 but not over $250,525 = 17032
35%
Over $250,525 but not over $626,350 = 131539

37% Over $626,350

TTL Tax $188,759 on $626,350 AGI
@ 626350 your total tax is a tax of about 30%
@ 103350 your total tax is a tax of about 17%
@ 48475 your total tax is a tax of about 11%
Not sure that American's should pay no tax. And also cannot see where it is not a tax on the hire earners. Increasing the deductions Only decreases the amount anyone is taxed on. A bit more difficult to calculate but does benefit lower earners.

Healthcare - The obamacare kind of subsidy is determined by each state individually. My state has not released the data for 2026. This year was the same as last.

I can find no change in medicaid for those that paid in that are now 65 and using it. Looks like the no tax on Social Security passed. Not 100% sure I agree with that one but it will put money in the hands of some people who deserve it. I wish we could get a break on rolling our 401k into a Roth. I've already been taxed on everything else except capital gains which vary from year to year.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I'm not reading that copypasta above. If you don't care enough to remove the HTML tags, I don't care enough to decipher your jibbajabba.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I haven't been able to find the rules on no tax on tips or overtime. Which those don't affect me.
The deductions have increased for 65 and over. The standard deduction has increased which will make it fewer people having to itemize. The line changed. The amount deducted did not. Maybe those fudging a little on their taxes won't feel as comfortable lying as before.
I haven't found it specifically but I do believe the property tax deduction has increased. Which is the fed allowing states/counties to collect taxes and give us 'some' back. That is not an increase.
The brackets and taxes are the same as they have been.
New 2025 Tax Brackets: Single Filers and Married Couples Filing Jointly
Taxable Income (Single)
TaxPerBracket
10%
Not over $11,925 = 1192
12%
Over $11,925 but not over $48,475 = 4386
22%
Over $48,475 but not over $103,350 = 12072
24%
Over $103,350 but not over $197,300 = 22548
32%
Over $197,300 but not over $250,525 = 17032
35%
Over $250,525 but not over $626,350 = 131539

37% Over $626,350

TTL Tax $188,759 on $626,350 AGI
@ 626350 your total tax is a tax of about 30%
@ 103350 your total tax is a tax of about 17%
@ 48475 your total tax is a tax of about 11%
Not sure that American's should pay no tax. And also cannot see where it is not a tax on the hire earners. Increasing the deductions Only decreases the amount anyone is taxed on. A bit more difficult to calculate but does benefit lower earners.

Healthcare - The obamacare kind of subsidy is determined by each state individually. My state has not released the data for 2026. This year was the same as last.

I can find no change in medicaid for those that paid in that are now 65 and using it. Looks like the no tax on Social Security passed. Not 100% sure I agree with that one but it will put money in the hands of some people who deserve it. I wish we could get a break on rolling our 401k into a Roth. I've already been taxed on everything else except capital gains which vary from year to year.

The OBBB extends the brackets, rates, and AMT thresholds that would have expired after 2025 (with inflation adjustments). Because the 2017 TCJA doubled the standard deduction, about 90% of taxpayers will continue taking that rather than itemizing. There is a $6,000 deduction seniors can take on top of the standard deduction. Medicare is untouched. Medicaid has an 80 hour work/volunteer/education requirement for able bodied adults between the ages of 19 and 64, and adds $50 billion in new funding for rural hospitals which have been closing or been threatened with closure in recent years.

 

[PersonalFavors]

The OBBB extends the brackets, rates, and AMT thresholds that would have expired after 2025 (with inflation adjustments). Because the 2017 TCJA doubled the standard deduction, about 90% of taxpayers will continue taking that rather than itemizing. There is a $6,000 deduction seniors can take on top of the standard deduction. Medicare is untouched. Medicaid has an 80 hour work/volunteer/education requirement for able bodied adults between the ages of 19 and 64, and adds $50 billion in new funding for rural hospitals which have been closing or been threatened with closure in recent years.

If I were 65 the 6k deduction would prevent me from itemizing. As is the property tax deduction may be enough or I will be close to the threshold.
My point was the bbb is not near as expensive as those who voted against it were trying to make out.
If it is bad, why didn't they point out the things that are actually bad instead of making stuff up to try and detract against it? Something as sweeping as this should have been discussed instead of argued about. They probably could have made it smaller by not tacking on BS we haven't noticed in it.

 

[ll74]

I haven't been able to find the rules on no tax on tips or overtime. Which those don't affect me.
The deductions have increased for 65 and over. The standard deduction has increased which will make it fewer people having to itemize. The line changed. The amount deducted did not. Maybe those fudging a little on their taxes won't feel as comfortable lying as before.
I haven't found it specifically but I do believe the property tax deduction has increased. Which is the fed allowing states/counties to collect taxes and give us 'some' back. That is not an increase.
The brackets and taxes are the same as they have been.
New 2025 Tax Brackets: Single Filers and Married Couples Filing Jointly
Taxable Income (Single)
TaxPerBracket
10%
Not over $11,925 = 1192
12%
Over $11,925 but not over $48,475 = 4386
22%
Over $48,475 but not over $103,350 = 12072
24%
Over $103,350 but not over $197,300 = 22548
32%
Over $197,300 but not over $250,525 = 17032
35%
Over $250,525 but not over $626,350 = 131539

37% Over $626,350

TTL Tax $188,759 on $626,350 AGI
@ 626350 your total tax is a tax of about 30%
@ 103350 your total tax is a tax of about 17%
@ 48475 your total tax is a tax of about 11%
Not sure that American's should pay no tax. And also cannot see where it is not a tax on the hire earners. Increasing the deductions Only decreases the amount anyone is taxed on. A bit more difficult to calculate but does benefit lower earners.

Healthcare - The obamacare kind of subsidy is determined by each state individually. My state has not released the data for 2026. This year was the same as last.

I can find no change in medicaid for those that paid in that are now 65 and using it. Looks like the no tax on Social Security passed. Not 100% sure I agree with that one but it will put money in the hands of some people who deserve it. I wish we could get a break on rolling our 401k into a Roth. I've already been taxed on everything else except capital gains which vary from year to year.

Yah, those saying we're getting a tax cut are incorrect. We are getting the current tax cuts.made permanent.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

If I were 65 the 6k deduction would prevent me from itemizing. As is the property tax deduction may be enough or I will be close to the threshold.

Taxpayers 65 and over can deduct the $6K regardless of whether they itemize or take it on top of the standard deduction.

 

[Bray123]

JDV used to say that Medicaid should not be cut. But then he put on his eyeliner and told us he humped his couch.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Medicaid is not being cut folks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1941853966834209160

 

[Lazaran]

Medicaid is not being cut folks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1941853966834209160

BabyBoobs Baamboozled By Billionaire Bessent.



Meanwhile:

Residents of Arkansas & Georgia who WERE on Medicaid “found out” when the states “fucked around” with the program a few years ago.



BabyBoobs



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[heathrowinneo]

Medicaid is not being cut folks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1941853966834209160

You may want to talk to the folks in Martin. NC. I dont think they'll agree with you.

 

[Lance_Castro]

I don’t believe you. You’ve made a total of 9 posts since you joined a month ago, and all of them are in the Politics forum.

And I don’t believe you.

So what , Princess Hubris?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

And I don’t believe you.

So what , Princess Hubris?

You don’t have to believe me, noob. If you click on a poster’s name you can review their posting history for yourself.

You’ve been here less than a year and average more than 15 posts a day.

 

[PersonalFavors]

The bill is pass and signed. Many here are still saying it will do things that are not in the bill.
Let's focus on getting the DOGE cuts ratified and signed into law. Claw back as many billions as we can from the 8 trillion in obiden climate hoax and covid crap. I would assume we need to start looking ahead before another democrat standoff trying to tack on a bunch of junk to a spending bill will be used to deceive voters into thinking the Republicans imposed a shutdown. Getting Powell out or to lower rates would go a long way too. Too fast and it could mess up the housing market. Rates need to start moving down now so we can catch up to the rest of the world and pay down debt instead of just paying interest.

 

[MajorRewrite]

If Republicans think changes to Medicaid are important, why don’t the changes go into effect until after the midterm election?