poll: why do women date assholes?
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well, i'd hate to think that many women are so shallow as to judge a book by its cover, CF. 
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Excuse me, but nice guys aren't allways what you think. I guess I break the mold on this in some ways. I am a nice guy w/an attitude.Eilan said:Not to mention that the so-called nice guys aren't necessarily nice guys.
Doormat does not equal nice.
Whiny does not equal nice.
Desperate does not equal nice.
Truly nice or great guys don't need to tell others they're nice or great--it's something that people just pick up on.
TBK, I was wondering what had happened to you!
I'm not whiny, I'm not desperate, and I damn sure ain't someone's f**king doormat.
I open doors, am considerate of others, allways 'do the right thing', respect my elders, kind to the ladies (perhaps too kind at times), don't try to fuck every woman in sight, normaly I 'mind my manners' in social circles (but I know how to 'pare' when subtlely challenged), pay my taxes, and have respect for all things in life.
But I do draw the line when it comes to me and mine. I am very physical, and while I would never strike a woman, woe be unto the foolish man who lays a hand on this 41 yrs of hard work. I run from nothing, however, I do know how to pick and choose my battles.
Whenever diplomacy (allways 1st attempt), I am the underdog that forever stands in the way of bullies (both mental and physical).
And I sincerely hope I didn't misinterpret your meaning here. If so, then I readily apologize.
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Eilan said:
EXACTLY!!!
It bothers me when people state facts about them. Like it will somehow make me believe that is how they truly are.
I work with a man that continually states, "I'm a good Christian man..." That irritates me to no end! So, your post made me think of him. Maybe he needs to say it for himself to hear, who knows?!
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I've never pursued either an asshole or a bad boy. I did wind up dating someone who I consider to be an asshole. I knew him socially through the softball league, but didn't know anything about his character. He was always nice to me and those around me. We wound up playing on the same co-ed team. He started asking me out and I evenutally went out with him a few times. He didn't show his assholedom right off, but when he did I was out of there quickly. After we stopped seeing each other (I'm guessing after 6 weeks or so) everyone on our team began telling me about his negative qualities. I'm thinking to myself-why the hell didn't anyone step up to the plate earlier?? I would never have gone out with him even once!
As a side note, one of my friends in the past chalked it up to "a pity fuck."
As a side note, one of my friends in the past chalked it up to "a pity fuck."
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I believe that all men are assholes at times. Women too. Everybody gets to be an asshole on a bad day.
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Cathleen said:I have never dated an asshole. They became assholes after.
Just kidding Ed. Truly, I haven't dated any assholes, they hold zero appeal. I like smart, considerate, humorous and genuine men. Have one of those in your back pocket?
LOL...Ed, while you are fishing around in your pockets...if you find a spare, send him my way, ok?
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Cathleen said:
You know what they say about fishing....what you catch really depends on the bait. With that av...I'm sure we will do just fine fishing with ed!
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cate, PTM: bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
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the only thing I can think of that has ever drawn me to an asshole is that somehow the guy was offering me whatever it was emotionally/physically/mentally that I was looking for at the time. And then of course, once I got the need fulfilled I would start to see the guy for what he really was. Of course, by that point, the emotional attachment was there and it was a little bit harder to get rid of him. All of them went though, and fast when I decided I was fed up.
What an interesting topic.
By reading the posts here I've learned alot about why some women seek boorish, controlling or violent men.
A question: Does anyone think this tendency will ever diminish or is it just one of many seemingly permanent human foibles?
By reading the posts here I've learned alot about why some women seek boorish, controlling or violent men.
A question: Does anyone think this tendency will ever diminish or is it just one of many seemingly permanent human foibles?
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I think there are plenty women-asshole-types ass well. The difference is gender and what that does with the way we present ourselves.
Women are tought to be polite and nice. To take other peoples feelings into consideration. Most women do that and will never be real assholes for that reason.
Men, on the other hand, are tought to be assertive and are told from a very young age that when they are nice and too considerate (cause they need to be tough!) they look like weenies, like dorks.
Of course this is very general and there's a lot more to it but in a nutshell I think this is the problem: Men sort of know women are different and so they feel they have to show their good side to win them over. But at the same time they are getting comfortable in a relationship all too soon (most times much quicker than women do) and then their real attitudes will show.
The women who have a real bad attitude are less likely to put on an act to lure men their way. Because the men THEY want to 'catch' are the ones that want that asshole-mentality from them anyway.
Women are tought to be polite and nice. To take other peoples feelings into consideration. Most women do that and will never be real assholes for that reason.
Men, on the other hand, are tought to be assertive and are told from a very young age that when they are nice and too considerate (cause they need to be tough!) they look like weenies, like dorks.
Of course this is very general and there's a lot more to it but in a nutshell I think this is the problem: Men sort of know women are different and so they feel they have to show their good side to win them over. But at the same time they are getting comfortable in a relationship all too soon (most times much quicker than women do) and then their real attitudes will show.
The women who have a real bad attitude are less likely to put on an act to lure men their way. Because the men THEY want to 'catch' are the ones that want that asshole-mentality from them anyway.
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Strong words from a man with fish in his pockets!
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A bunch of Assholes.
The Asshole Song by Jimmy Buffett
Well I was drivin' down I-95 the other night.
Somebody nearly cut me right off the road.
I decided it wasn't gonna do any good to get mad.
So I wrote a song about him instead.
It goes like this...
Were you born an asshole?
Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine
'cause you're an asshole tonight.
Yes you're an A S S H O L E...
And don't you try to blame it on me.
You deserve all the credit.
You're an asshole tonight.
You were an asshole yesterday.
You're an asshole tonight.
And I've got a feelin'
you'll be an asshole the rest of your life.
And I was talkin' to your mother
just the other night.
I told her I thought you were an asshole.
She said, "Yes. I think you're right."
And all your friends are assholes
'cause you've known them your whole life.
And somebody told me
you've got an asshole for a wife.
Were you born an asshole?
Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine
'cause you're an aaaass...hole tonight.
DENIS LEARY - a**hole
(Spoken)
Folks, I'd like to sing a song about the American dream.
About me, about you, about the way our American hearts beat way down
in the bottom of our chests. About the special feeling we get in the
cockles of our hearts, maybe below the cockles, maybe in the subcockle
area. Maybe in the liver. Maybe in the kidneys. Maybe even in the
colon, we don't know.
(Sung)
I'm just a regular Joe with a regular job.
I'm your average white suburbanite slob.
I like football and p*rno and books about war.
I've got an average house with a nice hardwood floor.
My wife and my job, my kids and my car.
My feet on my table and a cuban cigar.
But sometimes that just ain't enough to keep a man like me interested
(oh no) no way (uh-uh)
No, I've gotta go out and have fun at someone else's expense
(oh yeah) Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
I drive really slow in the ultra-fast lane,
While people behind me are going insane.
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, such an a**hole)
I use public toilets and p*ss on the seat,
I walk around in the summertime saying "How about this heat?"
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's the world's biggest a**hole)
Sometimes I park in handicapped spaces,
While handicapped people make handicapped faces.
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's a real f**king a**hole)
Maybe I shouldn't be singing this song
Ranting and raving and carrying on
Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong
NAAAAH!
I'm an a**hole (he's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (he's the world's biggest a**hole)
(Spoken)
Know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado,
hot-f**kin'-pink, with whaleskin hubcaps and all-leather cow interior and big
brown baby seal eyes for headlights... yeah! And I'm gonna drive around in
that baby doing 115 miles an hour, getting 1 mile per gallon, suckin' down
quarter pound cheeseburgers from McDonald's in the old-fashioned non-
biodegradable styrofoam containers... yeah! And when I'm done suckin' down
those greaseball burgers I'm gonna toss the styrofoam containers right out the
side, and there ain't a goddamn thing anybody can do about it. You know why?
Because we got the bombs, that's why... yeah! Two words--nuclear f**kin'
weapons, OK? Russia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, they can have all the democracy
they want...they can have a democracy cakewalk right through the middle of
Tienamen Square and it won't make a lick of f**kin' difference, because we got
the bombs, OK? John Wayne's not dead--he's frozen! And when we find a cure for
cancer, we're gonna thaw out the Duke and he's gonna be pretty p*ssed off. You
know why? You ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by 15 million
times--that's how p*ssed off the Duke's gonna be. I'm gonna get the Duke and
John Casavetti and Sam Peckinpaw and a case of f**kin' whisky and drive...
(Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know you really are an a**hole?)
Why don't you shut up and sing the song, Chris. I thought I was the
a**hole... all the time it was him... what an a**hole!
(Sung)
I'm an a**hole (I'm an a**hole, he's an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's the world's biggest a**hole)
A S-S H-O L-E
Everybody, A S-S H-O L-E
Ay Ay-Ay Ay-Ay Ay-Ay
A-thoom A-thoom-thoom A-thoom-thoom A-thoom-thoom
Oooooooo
(Spoken)
I'm an a**hole and I'm proud of it!
Gene Simmons - Asshole
[Verse]
You think that you're so cool
That you're nobody's fool
But you've got a personality (Yeah)
Just like a bucket full of pee
[Chorus]
How does it feel to be a real... Asshole
You're such a creep
You look like a sheep (ba-baah)... Asshole
[Verse]
You know you've got no shame
And you've got such a stupid name
And one day you'll finally shut your trap
'Cause you're the cream of the crap
[Chorus]
Asshole...
Asshole...
You're such an asshole...
[Break]
You always look like an idiot
This may be news for you
You are the king of all stupidness
Maybe I'm an asshole too
Maybe I'm an asshole too
Just like you
[Guitar Solo]
You're such an asshole...
[Chorus X2]
You're such an asshole...
Maybe I'm an asshole too
Maybe I'm an asshole too
The Asshole Song by Jimmy Buffett
Well I was drivin' down I-95 the other night.
Somebody nearly cut me right off the road.
I decided it wasn't gonna do any good to get mad.
So I wrote a song about him instead.
It goes like this...
Were you born an asshole?
Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine
'cause you're an asshole tonight.
Yes you're an A S S H O L E...
And don't you try to blame it on me.
You deserve all the credit.
You're an asshole tonight.
You were an asshole yesterday.
You're an asshole tonight.
And I've got a feelin'
you'll be an asshole the rest of your life.
And I was talkin' to your mother
just the other night.
I told her I thought you were an asshole.
She said, "Yes. I think you're right."
And all your friends are assholes
'cause you've known them your whole life.
And somebody told me
you've got an asshole for a wife.
Were you born an asshole?
Or did you work at it your whole life?
Either way it worked out fine
'cause you're an aaaass...hole tonight.
DENIS LEARY - a**hole
(Spoken)
Folks, I'd like to sing a song about the American dream.
About me, about you, about the way our American hearts beat way down
in the bottom of our chests. About the special feeling we get in the
cockles of our hearts, maybe below the cockles, maybe in the subcockle
area. Maybe in the liver. Maybe in the kidneys. Maybe even in the
colon, we don't know.
(Sung)
I'm just a regular Joe with a regular job.
I'm your average white suburbanite slob.
I like football and p*rno and books about war.
I've got an average house with a nice hardwood floor.
My wife and my job, my kids and my car.
My feet on my table and a cuban cigar.
But sometimes that just ain't enough to keep a man like me interested
(oh no) no way (uh-uh)
No, I've gotta go out and have fun at someone else's expense
(oh yeah) Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
I drive really slow in the ultra-fast lane,
While people behind me are going insane.
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, such an a**hole)
I use public toilets and p*ss on the seat,
I walk around in the summertime saying "How about this heat?"
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's the world's biggest a**hole)
Sometimes I park in handicapped spaces,
While handicapped people make handicapped faces.
I'm an a**hole (He's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's a real f**king a**hole)
Maybe I shouldn't be singing this song
Ranting and raving and carrying on
Maybe they're right when they tell me I'm wrong
NAAAAH!
I'm an a**hole (he's an a**hole, what an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (he's the world's biggest a**hole)
(Spoken)
Know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado,
hot-f**kin'-pink, with whaleskin hubcaps and all-leather cow interior and big
brown baby seal eyes for headlights... yeah! And I'm gonna drive around in
that baby doing 115 miles an hour, getting 1 mile per gallon, suckin' down
quarter pound cheeseburgers from McDonald's in the old-fashioned non-
biodegradable styrofoam containers... yeah! And when I'm done suckin' down
those greaseball burgers I'm gonna toss the styrofoam containers right out the
side, and there ain't a goddamn thing anybody can do about it. You know why?
Because we got the bombs, that's why... yeah! Two words--nuclear f**kin'
weapons, OK? Russia, Czechoslovakia, Romania, they can have all the democracy
they want...they can have a democracy cakewalk right through the middle of
Tienamen Square and it won't make a lick of f**kin' difference, because we got
the bombs, OK? John Wayne's not dead--he's frozen! And when we find a cure for
cancer, we're gonna thaw out the Duke and he's gonna be pretty p*ssed off. You
know why? You ever taken a cold shower? Well, multiply that by 15 million
times--that's how p*ssed off the Duke's gonna be. I'm gonna get the Duke and
John Casavetti and Sam Peckinpaw and a case of f**kin' whisky and drive...
(Hey, hey, hey, hey, you know you really are an a**hole?)
Why don't you shut up and sing the song, Chris. I thought I was the
a**hole... all the time it was him... what an a**hole!
(Sung)
I'm an a**hole (I'm an a**hole, he's an a**hole)
I'm an a**hole (He's the world's biggest a**hole)
A S-S H-O L-E
Everybody, A S-S H-O L-E
Ay Ay-Ay Ay-Ay Ay-Ay
A-thoom A-thoom-thoom A-thoom-thoom A-thoom-thoom
Oooooooo
(Spoken)
I'm an a**hole and I'm proud of it!
Gene Simmons - Asshole
[Verse]
You think that you're so cool
That you're nobody's fool
But you've got a personality (Yeah)
Just like a bucket full of pee
[Chorus]
How does it feel to be a real... Asshole
You're such a creep
You look like a sheep (ba-baah)... Asshole
[Verse]
You know you've got no shame
And you've got such a stupid name
And one day you'll finally shut your trap
'Cause you're the cream of the crap
[Chorus]
Asshole...
Asshole...
You're such an asshole...
[Break]
You always look like an idiot
This may be news for you
You are the king of all stupidness
Maybe I'm an asshole too
Maybe I'm an asshole too
Just like you
[Guitar Solo]
You're such an asshole...
[Chorus X2]
You're such an asshole...
Maybe I'm an asshole too
Maybe I'm an asshole too
