Promoting Diversity and Free Speech in the BDSM community through censorship?

[Leopald]

Yet another claiming "You made me do it!".

Yet another classic example of abusing the forum rules by posting in the wrong forum.

You're wrong, and your beloved doesn't respect you.

 

[BLoved]

Yet another classic example of abusing the forum rules by posting in the wrong forum.

Exactly how responsible is a casual 'player' who can't own his own behaviour but has to blame his victim for the abuse?

How responsible is such an individual in private when they do it so easily in public?

I am responsible for all of the choices I make, in public and in private.

You are willing to blame me for your behaviour, in public.

 

[Leopald]

Exactly how responsible is a casual 'player' who can't own his own behaviour but has to blame his victim for the abuse?

How responsible is such an individual in private when they do it so easily in public?

I am responsible for all of the choices I make, in public and in private.

You are willing to blame me for your behaviour, in public.

Just as responsible as the 'victim' is for participating. Not to mention that abuse is just as likey to happen in a long term relationship as a casual one.

You're wrong, and you're ashamed of yourself for some past abuse in your life.

This is fun, yes?

 

[BLoved]

Just as responsible as the 'victim' is for participating.

Your behaviour is validating my argument.

Casual 'players' and their advocates are immature and abusive.

We have nearly three months of non-stop harassment through one discussion after another to demonstrate this.

If it suits your ego to believe people are just too stupid, too immature or too abusive to see it, go for it.

 

[Leopald]

I'm neither a casual player or an advocate. But here's a rebuttal for you nonetheless. You're immature and abusive. You abuse free speech and cry foul when people disagree with you. You abuse people's lifestyle choices. You abuse your right to join and participate in an online forum and complain when you break multiple rules and are under threat of being banned.

Once again, a casual sub is no more a victim than a sky diver who's parachute fails. They know the risks involved before they participate. End of story.

You're wrong, and you abuse your beloved.

 

[FloggingMolly]

What I can't understand is what the fuck you think there still is to discuss?

We've reached the conclusion that you feel casual bdsm is unethical, and other people feel it isn't. Its called agreeing to disagree. The louder/more frequently you shout does not in anyway correlate to a change of opinions of those who feel just as strongly as you but in the opposite direction.

I seriously think this has been done to death now. We've all seen (multiple times, over many copy & pastes of the same article) your opinions and the message you hope to convey. What else do you want? It's all there for newbie education, and the reader, and the lurker and whoever else you seek to influence to read. So why keep on repeating it?

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

I like pizza a lot.

 

[Keroin]

I like pizza a lot.

Liar.

 

[LaRocha]

What I can't understand is what the fuck you think there still is to discuss?

We've reached the conclusion that you feel casual bdsm is unethical, and other people feel it isn't. Its called agreeing to disagree. The louder/more frequently you shout does not in anyway correlate to a change of opinions of those who feel just as strongly as you but in the opposite direction.

I seriously think this has been done to death now. We've all seen (multiple times, over many copy & pastes of the same article) your opinions and the message you hope to convey. What else do you want? It's all there for newbie education, and the reader, and the lurker and whoever else you seek to influence to read. So why keep on repeating it?

Because he's a lonely old man whose only connection to humanity is via this chat board. Unfortunately, he believes to stay relevant(keep us talking to him) he has to be confrontational, lest we forget he exists, thereby he's all by himself again.

 

[chy_girl]

I like pizza a lot.

Eeew. I'd rather have asparagus with a sharp cheddar cheese sauce. Or fried zucchini.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

I like pizza a lot.

How dare you!

How does that promote diversity???

What about the people who don't like pizza? Did you ever think about them?

No.

You're too busy in your pizza liking world to see that there are other people out there who may not agree with you. And I'm sure you will attack me for saying something. You'll call me "unethical" "abusive" "immature" and more just because I stuck up for ALL those people who don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying, but just how you said it.

You are such an arrogant, close minded, self righteous individual.

I feel sorry for all those pizzas you had or will have in the future. I'm sure you won't treat them with the respect they deserve. You won't wait for the time to be right. You'll just take your bite without letting them warm up to you.

For shame.

I said, FOR SHAME!

 

[FloggingMolly]

*snip*
For shame.

I said, FOR SHAME!

Agreed. How _very_ dare you!!

 

[BLoved]

Once again, a casual sub is no more a victim than a sky diver who's parachute fails.

A sky-diving company can be sued. It has standards to maintain and faces criminal prosecution if they fail to maintain them.

Who do you sue when a one-night stand turns abusive?

 

[LaRocha]

A sky-diving company can be sued. It has standards to maintain and faces criminal prosecution if they fail to maintain them.

Who do you sue when a one-night stand turns abusive?

Really? You don't know that you can take an abuser to civil court with or without a trip to criminal court? I'm sure in some demented way you could take Literotica.com to court for all the 'abuse' you've experience here. haha, pussy.

 

[BLoved]

We've reached the conclusion that you feel casual bdsm is unethical, and other people feel it isn't. Its called agreeing to disagree.

Does that mean you're going to avoid hijacking my threads in future?

What about the rest of the trolls?

The louder/more frequently you shout does not in anyway correlate to a change of opinions of those who feel just as strongly as you but in the opposite direction.

Who says I want to change their minds?

They are splendid examples of the kinds of personalities one should expect to run into cruising the casual community.

They are amongst the best evidence one could provide to demonstrate the casual 'players' and their advocates suffer from a high degree of immaturity and abusive behaviour.

Clearly their obsession with me demonstrates they have issues.

Their issues have issues.

I seriously think this has been done to death now. We've all seen (multiple times, over many copy & pastes of the same article) your opinions and the message you hope to convey. What else do you want? It's all there for newbie education, and the reader, and the lurker and whoever else you seek to influence to read. So why keep on repeating it?

Because you and your fellow trolls insist on handing me more ammunition.

Would be nice to actually discuss bdsm without every discussion being hijacked by the trolls so they can waste everyone's time whining about the fact I'm still here.

But you trolls are too obsessed to let that happen.

 

[BLoved]

Really? You don't know that you can take an abuser to civil court with or without a trip to criminal court? I'm sure in some demented way you could take Literotica.com to court for all the 'abuse' you've experience here. haha, pussy.

So the sub who is bound and blind-folded and abused at a 'play party' is supposed to know the names of all her abusers?

Which part of "one-night stand/no-strings attached" did you fail to understand?

 

[PhaonsBrother]

Oh, you're still here? GTFO.

 

[BLoved]

Oh, you're still here? GTFO.

~smile~

And yet another day and night passes with the trolls keeping my discussions on the top of the list so as to whine about the fact I'm still here.

Hope you enjoyed your visit to BDSM Talk

 

[LaRocha]

So the sub who is bound and blind-folded and abused at a 'play party' is supposed to know the names of all her abusers?

Which part of "one-night stand/no-strings attached" did you fail to understand?

Well, I guess if she was blindfolded... Wtf are you? Women are raped all the time by people they don't know. It usually takes some effort on the part of these people called 'detectives' and the abusers are found and charged in criminal court. Often, the abused also takes the abuser to civilian court to get herself some extra justice. You're completely uneducated.

 

[chy_girl]

So the sub who is bound and blind-folded and abused at a 'play party' is supposed to know the names of all her abusers?

Which part of "one-night stand/no-strings attached" did you fail to understand?

For the last time "one-night stand/no-strings attached" is NOT synonymous with "play party."

And for the absolute last time having someone other than one's PYL(s) flog them does not mean that they get to fuck them!!!!

Dude... Try actually GOING to a play party or three, would you?

 

[BLoved]

Well, I guess if she was blindfolded... Wtf are you? Women are raped all the time by people they don't know. It usually takes some effort on the part of these people called 'detectives' and the abusers are found and charged in criminal court. Often, the abused also takes the abuser to civilian court to get herself some extra justice. You're completely uneducated.

That's the 'nice' thing about abuse in the casual community, you have all this peer pressure to convince the victim she wasn't really abused, or that if she didn't know what to expect she shouldn't have come.

Lots of ways to blame the victim, when you have a crowd working together to accomplish the task.

Not unlike what we find here at BDSM Talk ...

 

[Leopald]

Yes, you can get legal help for a one-night stand turned abusive. In today's society, a woman only has to whisper the word "rape" or "non-consent" to utterly ruin someone's life, regardless of fact.

If the person is guilty and goes to jail, then so be it. But if he is innocent and proven to be so, his life is still irrevocably changed for the worse. So, I submit that these are the real victims. Not silly subs who can't recognize the signs of a dangerous situation and willingly choose to participate.

Now, before this gets blown out of proportion and my statement gets twisted to indicate I condone non-consent situations, let me say I strongly do not. In my eyes its one of the worst things one human being can possibly do to another.

Once again, you're wrong and everything you touch turns to suck.

 

[LaRocha]

That's the 'nice' thing about abuse in the casual community, you have all this peer pressure to convince the victim she wasn't really abused, or that if she didn't know what to expect she shouldn't have come.

Lots of ways to blame the victim, when you have a crowd working together to accomplish the task.

Not unlike what we find here at BDSM Talk ...

Grown ups get to decide what they're consenting to. That's the nice thing about being a grown up, you can't be peer pressured into smoking those cigarettes, err, peer pressured into getting flogged in public without fully consenting. Maybe if you were a grown up you'd understand some of these intricacies.

 

[BLoved]

Yes, you can get legal help for a one-night stand turned abusive. In today's society, a woman only has to whisper the word "rape" or "non-consent" to utterly ruin someone's life, regardless of fact.

If the person is guilty and goes to jail, then so be it. But if he is innocent and proven to be so, his life is still irrevocably changed for the worse. So, I submit that these are the real victims. Not silly subs who can't recognize the signs of a dangerous situation and willingly choose to participate.

Should we thank you for casting aspersions on any submissive who accuses someone of abuse/rape.

Do you think they will appreciate it?

 

[BLoved]

Maybe if you were a grown up you'd understand some of these intricacies.

~smile~

Yet more evidence of obsessive-compulsive harassment.

Expect this from the casual community.