Reading the classics

[ThorkelGriersen]

Stephen Crane

THE BLACK RIDERS

XLVI

Many red devils ran from my heart
And out upon the page.
They were so tiny
The pen could mash them.
And many struggled in the ink.
It was strange
To write in this red muck
Of things from my heart.

 

[LadyAria]

I took a class on Tennessee Williams in college. It was also an acting class and we had to do a monologue as our final exam. I did one from "Small Craft Warnings" because I wanted to explore his lesser known works. He has a great female character in it with a monologue defending her brother whom everyone thinks is gay. Quite delightful.

There is also a Shakespeare Festival here in NJ run by one of his apprentices (She studied with him for years) so she tries to include one of his every season. I try to catch them, never can get enough of Tennessee Williams.

Tennesee Williams is one of my favorites. I saw The Glass Menagerie minimialist performance my freshman year in college and I was hooked. Either him or David Mamet would be my favorite playwrights.

 

[LadyAria]

I love Ovidius as well, and some of the myths contained in the Metamorphoses have really been a great source for western literature . One of my favourite is the Daphne and Apollo 's myth .

Ps . I read your above mentioned work , lovely and full of erotic grace

Yes, I agree the metamorphoses has been a great inspiration for many great works.

I'm glad you like it. Not one of my best, but Earth Day is hard theme.

 

[LadyAria]

Another favorite of mine

Catullus - 61 , 31

Ac domum dominam voca
coniugis cupidam novi,
mentem amore revinciens,
ut tenax hedera huc et huc
arborem implicat errans.

And then call home the mistress
desirous of a new spouse
binding fast the mind with love,
as the clinging ivy here and there
wandering entwines the tree.

(For the Latin impaired to enjoy )

 

[LadyAria]

Okay, this is not a classic. Actually, he is alive and currently writing. Anyway, I thought I'd share because I love his work.

Eve
By Kevin Griffith
From Poems & Play No. 4
Spring/Summer 1997

She drives the Pacific Highway, eyes closed,
silks trailing, champagne in one hand,

one of a kind diamond in the other.
She lives the high life, and at parties

recounts the tale with little prompting-
how, when offered, she said

"you'll have to do better than fruit,"
and used her moxie to up the ante:

jewels, ointments, a whole host
of gulity pleasures. "You keep the stars,"

she told him,"but I'll need eternal youth."
The next day she and Satan hit the road

for Vegas, then shuffled on to Sodom
for the honeymoon. And what about

Adam? She left the sap standing
bare-assed and fuming. All he really

wanted was a breeder on a one-way
guilt trip, easy to control and blame

for all the world's problems. And besides,
he had God, and plenty of ribs to spare.

 

[LadyAria]

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Free ebooks for those who love reading the classics.

 

[babiesmiles]

And then call home the mistress
desirous of a new spouse
binding fast the mind with love,
as the clinging ivy here and there
wandering entwines the tree.

(For the Latin impaired to enjoy )

perfect

 

[raven2]

And then call home the mistress
desirous of a new spouse
binding fast the mind with love,
as the clinging ivy here and there
wandering entwines the tree.

(For the Latin impaired to enjoy )

I also like Catullus, so, lets continue it:

uosque item simul, integrae
uirgines, quibus aduenit
par dies, agite in modum
dicite, o Hymenaee Hymen
o Hymen Hymenaee.

and you sing with me also,
unmarried virgins. For each of
you a day such as this will come
and marking their bliss, will sing
"Hymen, god of marriage"

 

[babiesmiles]

Catullus 61, 41

Ut lubentius ,audiens
se citarier ad suum
munus , huc aditum ferat
dux bonae Veneris , boni
coniugatur amoris .

my translation latin / english ( passing through italian ) is a more difficult matter so I need some time more ...but I will ...soon

 

[babiesmiles]

Catullus 61, 41

Ut lubentius ,audiens
se citarier ad suum
munus , huc aditum ferat
dux bonae Veneris , boni
coniugatur amoris .

my translation latin / english ( passing through italian ) is a more difficult matter so I need some time more ...but I will ...soon

really an awful one but it's late here so be clement

So that , more willingly
feeling invoked, it comes
to its office , honest Venus’
guide to join an upright love

 

[raven2]

really an awful one but it's late here so be clement

So that , more willingly
feeling invoked, it comes
to its office , honest Venus’
guide to join an upright love

Here is my attempt:

Thus shall the herald of
the goddess of love
come to us more eagerly
and join these honest lovers.
Call the god of marriage.

 

[babiesmiles]

Here is my attempt:

Thus shall the herald of
the goddess of love
come to us more eagerly
and join these honest lovers.
Call the god of marriage.

Very good one and poetical
I just made a poor literal one sticking to the latin text

 

[raven2]

Very good one and poetical
I just made a poor literal one sticking to the latin text

TY. Yours was a good attempt. It wasn't late here.

 

[LadyAria]

TY. Yours was a good attempt. It wasn't late here.

babiesmiles and raven2, my two lovers of latin. I knew I liked you two for some reason

 

[raven2]

babiesmiles and raven2, my two lovers of latin. I knew I liked you two for some reason

TY *grins* Trust me, I am very rusty at it and it takes a lot longer than it used to. In college (a very long time ago......I have a reunion this June ) I took a couple of courses in Roman Comedy and loved them. Wish I could translate now as well as I used to.

 

[babiesmiles]

babiesmiles and raven2, my two lovers of latin. I knew I liked you two for some reason

Thank you Lady Aria , I like to read in latin but attempt to translate from it to a language which is not my first one, besides trying to put in it the magical the original text has , is completely another matter .

Raven is far better than me

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

More Crane

The Black Riders

III​

In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
Who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, "is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter --bitter," he answered;
"But I like it
Becuase it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."

Stephen Crane​

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

A Crane Bump

INTRIGUE​

III​

Ah God, the way your little finger moved,
As you thrust a bare arm backward
And made play with your hair
And a comb, a silly gilt comb!
--Ah, God--that I should suffer
Because of the way a little finger moved.

Stephen Crane​

 

[ammre]

jane eyre.

i mean really, the woman is a total mental masochist.

I've heard other bronte stores are quite D/s filled. I was going to write a paper on it, btu then i slacked off hardcore and never did it.

 

[ThorkelGriersen]

Baronets

jane eyre.

i mean really, the woman is a total mental masochist.

I've heard other bronte stores are quite D/s filled. I was going to write a paper on it, btu then i slacked off hardcore and never did it.

I'm certainly not the expert; however, that which I have read seems to teem with repressed sexuality. Some of the references in the B's novels are amazing. I suppose that some of it passed for the same reason that homosexuality was not outlawed in Victoria's time. Laws were written but no one had the courage to explain what it was about to Victoria and no one seem to know if she needed an explanation or not. As soon as Edward reached the throne, a lot got outlawed; but by that time everyone was doing ever thing and everybody!