Reasons why Homosexuality is a choice.

[Queersetti]

Well, i'm glad to hear that, honestly i felt rather bad for you as per your original post. It's good to hear that those views stated are not actually your views, though i do believe it's important to note that while they may not be YOUR views, (and this is for everyone to consider) There are MANY folks who DO hold those views, which is quite sad and frightening. Most especially when you think about how many of them actually take part in running our beloved country. :sighs gently:

Mega, i do believe that while you may have had a point (and while i am unable to see it now, i'm open to hearing what it may have been.) coming in and antagonizing folks, whether you truly meant what you said or not, is really kinda harsh. It's nice to hear you don't believe the things you said - but you can't really expect most people to just lay down and take such amazing insults in a place they feel safe in.

See, that's the thing. the GBLT forum is a safe place for us, a place we can share anything with one another without judgement. It's almost like you came in and pissed on the sanctity of that soft safety blanket that is our forums. You're intention may not have been that, and by all means i'm open to that, but i hope that you might also be open to considering and realizing that whether intended or not, your comments were still hurtful and cruel and really seemed to have no purpose.

I guess i just don't understand *why* you were trolling our forum. Consider this - it's our safe place where we can share all our fantasies and dreams and wants and desires, first time stories, crushes, flirt and play and tease and have fun with one another. If you didn't believe what you had said, then ...

... what purpose did doing that serve? It seems to me as though it was just... to upset people?

Like i said, maybe your intention was not that, and like i said again, i am open to that and am not in judgement - i am just expressing how you came across, and also sharing why you got the responses you go from most of the folks here.

Be well,

Nikki

Very well said, Nikki. Thank you.

 

[lost_in_space]

What is this shit?

Nevertheless, I'll say what I want.

For Megadisk, I'll quote 50 Cent:

"... let the motherfucker burn ..."

I'm straight, but I'll do it with any guy on this forum; heck, any guy in the world without having a second thought. And you, my friend, if you venture to spend even a single night with me, I'll give you such a good time that you'll never EVER think of doing it with a F again. Period.

We don't need this shit here. Megadick, go drink out of your toilet. Don't bother us. Nobody needs to "test" anybody. If you can take care of your own life, you would have fulfilled your purpose on this planet. No need to be a pain in anyone else's butt.

There. I said it.

< Peace >

 

[Nirvanadragones]

i am highly amused...

Hi Family

I have just read this thread from start to finish (well most of it anyway) and I decided against my better judgement to comment anyway...

Firstly, to the thread starter, there is so much on my mind. I am wondering why you have such a severe hatred towards people who are not straight. I am also wondering why you are so incredibly angry. And then my last question to you is - why do you choose to post what u have posted? Why are you asking the questions/ making the comments that you are? I do not see that you are hearing or listening to anything that has been said. You are simply reacting immediately to the words that you see on your screen - taking no time to consider the emotions and rationalisations of the person behind the words. I would love to know what is going on in your head...

Not that I think you would listen to what I have to say but here it is anyway. I believe there is a difference between sexual orientation and a certain chosen lifestyle. I do not believe sexual orientation is a choice or optional. Whether one chooses to live a homo/ bi/ hetero sexual lifestyle, is indeed a choice. What that lifestyle means is completely subjective in itself.

And regarding your reference to the Bible, firstly, Christianity is but one religion. (As per my first paragraph and my wonderings - I am wondering about your reference to the Bible as well) And as you can quote that according to the Bible homosexuality is wrong, so can I quote at least 4 aspects of your behaviour in this thread that is contradictory to what the Bible states is right…

I am however still intrigued by your thinking. I do not understand the purpose of your words, but what I can say it that you have experienced first hand, what we have and treasure in this GLBT forum. It’s our home. We live here.

Where is your home?

 

[neonflux]

Here here!

I do not understand the purpose of your words, but what I can say it that you have experienced first hand, what we have and treasure in this GLBT forum. It’s our home. We live here.

Where is your home?

and we will always pick up after ourselves and take care of our own (the mother tigress in me appears) welcome home, nirvana!

 

[smubahd]

1) Homosexuality is all about sex, not love. Having sex is a choice.

2) Homosexuality can be cured, but some people have sick fantasies and you can always prevent your fantasies from turning into reality.

3) Gays and Lesbians are often of a more deviant nature leading to bestiality and other disgusting activities.

4) There are success stories where lesbians have turned into full fledged straight women by the power of masculinity.

5) God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

I challenge you deviant Homosexuals to rebuttle with me, lets see what you've got (other than queer eye for the straight guy or queer as folk). I know a lot of you will personally insult me cause you homos have already lost the battle.

EDIT: Keep away from the personal insults and you're gonna be better recieved if you keep it civil. Dont gays knows about it?

Here is my half-assed straight guy attempt to answer.

1. 2, 3) How do you know? Really. As childish as it may sound, it takes one to know one.

4) There are likely success stories where 'straight' women have been 'turned into' full-fledged lesbians by the power of femininity. It really depends on what you consider a success. What is your point?

5) I'm not even sure where to start here. Most of the planet isn't Christian and doesn't buy into the Adam & Eve myth. Try to stick to facts rather than pamphlet slogans.


Were you crushed when Rob Halford came out of the closet?


Edit: By rebuttle[sic], do you mean stick it back in your ass?

 

[none2_none2]

Thank you for your response. I really appreciate it and agree with it 100%.

I was trolling the GLBT forums and in no way am homophobic. The truth is I wanted to see how well such an ignorant statement would be taken and also wanted to if any responses would be actually valid rather than insulting me (especially through my username). I am not from the south! in fact, I live in Wisconsin and am a supporter of Russ Feingold, if you find that ironic.

Thanks again.

Since so many people commented over all since this one, I figured I'd take another look at it.

You did this very same thing a few months ago about gays (especially Lesbians) being elitist because they don't seem friendly when you say you only want to talk to them. Then in that same thread you went on to say lesbianism was a trend. I assume the thread stopped because they said anymore anti-lesbian statements would be edited out.

In another thread you respond to Etoile:

"How sure are you about homosexual feelings being so widespread? Not all people choose to be gay, you know. None of my friends are gay and I can say that with confidence."

That comes across very negatively. If you don't understand why, look at it this way:

"How sure are you about ____________ being so widespread? Not all people choose to be ___, you know. None of my friends are ___ and I can say that with confidence."

a) Judiasm, Jewish, Jews
b) Catholicism, Catholic, Catholic
c) Islam, muslem, muslem
d) Agnosticism, Agnostic, Agnostic
e) liberalism, liberal, liberal
f) conservatism, conservitive, conservative
g) HIV, "gay/promiscious/HIV", HIV+
h) commitment, married, married
I) unemployment, unemployed, unemployed
J) communism, communists, communist
k) capitalism, capitalists, capitalists
l) "the desire to have kids", parents, parents


As you can see by filling in various permutations of nouns (representing groups of people) & their related adjectives within your basic statements, the effect is the same. It comes accross as being condesending towards that group or ignorant of the world around you at best -- especially with the use of "with confidence".

Now in this thread you use similar negatively loaded statements and hope to see how it would be taken, and to see if some statements "would be actually valid rather than insulting"...

That is kind of using us as lab rats, yet to what end? Are you going to college, and have a term paper you are doing on how gay people respond to negative comments? Would you go into a room full of African-Americans and ask them: "Is it true that African-Americans tend to be lazy?" Perhaps you just want to see how they respond to another ignorant question. Now some might respond with factual evidance to rebuke such a question. However, would it REALLY surprise you if some of them responded back with insults?

If you really wanted to know how people here thought about an issue, you could ask it at anytime. I've never seen a question here gone unanswered. Otherwise, you should really think through and ask yourself why are you hear, what do you want to accomplish, and what is the most effective way to acomplish that. Finally, unless you are doing this as some kind of personal research where you need to be detached, it helps to befriend the people you are trying to understand. You don't accomplish that with: "None of my friends are gay and I can say that with confidence." Even if it had no negative connotation. My next question to such a comment would be: Are you hear to make gay friends, if not, then why are you hear?