RP Partners: Do you prefer to approach or be approached?

[Se7en_]

Good ones.

The ratio of good female writers to good male writers is somewhere closer to even.

But the ratio of decent female writers to good male writers is closer to four to one.

Most of us men aren't great with a keyboard it seems. And the ones who like text are much fewer and farther between. Especially when we can put less work in and watch Porn. Compared to writing stories about it.



Back to the original.

I actually suppose that I ask a lot more people about things that aren't threads and threads come out of that. Or I offer a point of interest and threads come out of that. But looking at it. I respond to people a lot more so I guess I approach more often.

Four to one? Wow, that's really a bad ratio... what about decent female to decent male writers though?

Interesting way to look at it, watching porn as opposed to writing stories about the subject matter, but why don't females also take the easy way?

 

[Veroe]

Most of us men aren't great with a keyboard it seems. And the ones who like text are much fewer and farther between. Especially when we can put less work in and watch Porn. Compared to writing stories about it.

Hey I try damn it!

Seriously though: above average writing requires the use of your brain, and though when in a really hot situation as being a participant in a good SRP with a decent female cowriter we males tend to start using that other brain...you know the one...the one between the legs...yeah that one.

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

I do both approach and see what happens. Obviously it depends on the thread. If I post an idea it's me waiting to see who would be interested in writing with me. If I see a thread idea that stirs the muse, than I approach the OP.

I'm also a picky bitchy (I think I read that term from another poster).

Someone can tell me - - I write great!

But yet, if I don't have something tangible to look at, then I don't usually care to write with that person. It isn't because I don't believe them, but I need something besides a well-constructed PM to tell me, that they'll put a lot of effort into something.

If I'm considering it, it's obviously something I value.

For my personal ideas I do an "interview" type process too. I read the posters prior posts, not only in the SRP forum, but wherever they are fluttering on Lit. I don't mind being approached by new people, but they have to know I expect - if not as good as I give, at least the effort.

If I'm approaching someone, I offer them a link to old pieces as well as new ones, because after being gone from Lit., for quite a while, I'm "new" to many here and a "picky bitch" to work with for people in the past.

 

[VampiricTouch]

Four to one? Wow, that's really a bad ratio... what about decent female to decent male writers though?

Interesting way to look at it, watching porn as opposed to writing stories about the subject matter, but why don't females also take the easy way?

It's not just that good male writers are few and far between. There's also a certain level of chemistry between writers thats needed to make a story really fly. The pool of good male writers that exist is already very small. Add the extra chemistry needed to make a good thread and story just cuts it even smaller.

I've run across several good male writers here on lit. A lot required digging and approaching on my part to snag them. However the ones where the chemistry works and we write something I'm proud of that spans a good story.... Not so much. I chalk this up to chemistry and not either writer's fault because I've seen these writers write wonderful posts with other ladies. Enough to make me jealous.

It could be my fault, but I stubbornly refuse to admit I am a bad writer. Perhaps I'm just difficult to work with.

As to the thread question, I do both. If I have ideas I want to write I'll put together an idea concept to bounce around or a first post, or both. I then pitch to prospective writers or see if I get any bites from interested writers

 

[jack80]

I guess its a good thing I am not a good writer!

Just leaves me out of everything

 

[Fish_Tales]

I can't add anything - I just like reading the answers on this thread!

 

[Se7en_]

It's not just that good male writers are few and far between. There's also a certain level of chemistry between writers thats needed to make a story really fly. The pool of good male writers that exist is already very small. Add the extra chemistry needed to make a good thread and story just cuts it even smaller.

I've run across several good male writers here on lit. A lot required digging and approaching on my part to snag them. However the ones where the chemistry works and we write something I'm proud of that spans a good story.... Not so much. I chalk this up to chemistry and not either writer's fault because I've seen these writers write wonderful posts with other ladies. Enough to make me jealous.

It could be my fault, but I stubbornly refuse to admit I am a bad writer. Perhaps I'm just difficult to work with.

As to the thread question, I do both. If I have ideas I want to write I'll put together an idea concept to bounce around or a first post, or both. I then pitch to prospective writers or see if I get any bites from interested writers

Very interesting really. I had no idea good male writers were a rare breed. I better aim high then....... I like to think I am a good writer, but how can I verify that?

 

[RedHairedandFriendly]

I don't think there is a bad ratio number. I think it's pretty even, though I'll admit sometimes it feels we're lacking on men who write well, but honestly I bet sometimes the men think the same thing about women.

Also how "well" a person writes really is an individual's opinion. If someone is looking for a verbose writer and that's what they consider to be good than that's who they're going to prefer writing with. If a person likes the fast paced posting of a few lines, that that's what their going to find pleasing in a writer.

 

[marauder13]

Well, in response to the OP, I prefer to approach. Mainly it is a self confidence issue. I don't feel that I could come up with an idea, and pitch it to the general public and see who responds. Further to that, there are so many great ideas out there, that is it easier to respond to someone else's idea, and work with them to bring it to life.

Funnily enough, I have been approached by a few lady writers to do some threads, without any ideas associated. I have even been actively fished for - one particular writer who will remain nameless, dangled two different thread ideas out for me to take up. The first one I missed by mere hours, the second however I was caught with.

A few started by a simple passing comment made by one party that caught the other party's attention and the thread idea grew from there.

But I have started one or two of my own, with particular writers in mind. I have been very fortunate that the ladies in question were more than happy to do the threads with me.

 

[fed0ra]

A literotica virgin here but I think it may help to have a side thing going with the person you are writing with. Get to know each other, kind of thing. Also, do all posts have to be short? Or long? Can't it depend on the where you are at, in a story?

 

[Se7en_]

A literotica virgin here but I think it may help to have a side thing going with the person you are writing with. Get to know each other, kind of thing. Also, do all posts have to be short? Or long? Can't it depend on the where you are at, in a story?

It depends on the writers' style, some like short posts, other like medium length posts and others like very long posts. For me, I like long and very detailed posts all the time.

This is a written medium so words are all we have to express ourselves here, and I like to be generous with them and receive equal generosity in return.

 

[Nina327]

I can't add anything - I just like reading the answers on this thread!

Ever so helpfull, you are.

 

[Fish_Tales]

Ever so helpfull, you are.

Well - for you it's different

Note to all - If you don't write with Nina....you're silly and missing out.

See? Now I've helped

 

[Mephistophelily]

I appreciate being approached, but will also approach others.
Sometimes ideas I have seem something that fit a particular writer, either because I've written with them before, or because I've seen something they've done and their writing style seems to fit what I'm looking for.

I've been here for quite awhile, and there's a number of people that seem to have picked up on my writing from that, so I do tend to fall into a "group"- not by intention, but it just seems to happen. I do appreciate hearing from people outside that group, because sometimes... well, you learn to expect the same routine sometimes with certain cowriters. It's not a bad thing, it's just that you know what will most likely be happening. It's nice to get something outside that norm.

 

[fed0ra]

It depends on the writers' style, some like short posts, other like medium length posts and others like very long posts. For me, I like long and very detailed posts all the time.

This is a written medium so words are all we have to express ourselves here, and I like to be generous with them and receive equal generosity in return.

But in a long post the chance for impetuous interaction becomes less. Doesn't it? I am not for short posts but adapting each post to the one before it and the next one to come.

 

[Nina327]

Well - for you it's different

Note to all - If you don't write with Nina....you're silly and missing out.

See? Now I've helped

 

[Se7en_]

But in a long post the chance for impetuous interaction becomes less. Doesn't it? I am not for short posts but adapting each post to the one before it and the next one to come.

There are many styles, but take a look at a thread with long posts, and you'll see there is more interaction and it's usually written better than in threads with short posts. Long posts are usually quality and quantity.

 

[fed0ra]

I have never written before. So here I am, going with gut instinct. I did read some long posts. Very detailed. There was some overlap but smoothly done.

 

[Se7en_]

I have never written before. So here I am, going with gut instinct. I did read some long posts. Very detailed. There was some overlap but smoothly done.

Indeed, read and learn and soon you might very well be writing things that are just as good or better.

 

[Veroe]

I've found short vs long form post is widely dependent on how much time the person can devote during a day. I write with a co-writer that sticks to short form. However she's a housewife so I imagine she only has the time to respond between making supper and laundry and changing diapers and all the tasks and errands that take up a housewife's time in a day. I don't know if she'd want to try the longform even if she had the time. She's quite comfortable with the short form.

Also short form posts aren't necessarily a knock against their quality. I was strictly the longform before I started writing with her, and gradually she showed me by virtue of experience that short or long its not quantity or wordcount that's an indicator of quality. It's the care and dedication of the writers to the continuing plotline.

The real difference between them is influence. Longform is derived from novels and short-stories while shortform is more like a play or screenplay...longform describes the room for you as you read on, shortform asks you to be the set decorator for the play their about to put on for you.

 

[Se7en_]

I've found short vs long form post is widely dependent on how much time the person can devote during a day. I write with a co-writer that sticks to short form. However she's a housewife so I imagine she only has the time to respond between making supper and laundry and changing diapers and all the tasks and errands that take up a housewife's time in a day. I don't know if she'd want to try the longform even if she had the time. She's quite comfortable with the short form.

Also short form posts aren't necessarily a knock against their quality. I was strictly the longform before I started writing with her, and gradually she showed me by virtue of experience that short or long its not quantity or wordcount that's an indicator of quality. It's the care and dedication of the writers to the continuing plotline.

The real difference between them is influence. Longform is derived from novels and short-stories while shortform is more like a play or screenplay...longform describes the room for you as you read on, shortform asks you to be the set decorator for the play their about to put on for you.

Interesting Veroe, but I suppose long form usually indicates that the writers are putting/willing to put a lot of effort in constructing their replies which generally results in them being of high quality in addition to high quantity.

Short form indicates the opposite usually, so the case you are talking about is probably an exception because I did look around a lot of threads and usually short form is not really interesting to read.

 

[chronicle_tenko]

Interesting Veroe, but I suppose long form usually indicates that the writers are putting/willing to put a lot of effort in constructing their replies which generally results in them being of high quality in addition to high quantity.

Short form indicates the opposite usually, so the case you are talking about is probably an exception because I did look around a lot of threads and usually short form is not really interesting to read.

It depends on the short form. Illicit comes in Long, but some of mine come in short. And sometimes that's more than good. It's still a good paragraph normally.

But sometimes that's all I write, because it is all I need to say.

 

[Se7en_]

It depends on the short form. Illicit comes in Long, but some of mine come in short. And sometimes that's more than good. It's still a good paragraph normally.

But sometimes that's all I write, because it is all I need to say.

Again, I believe this is the exception. Also the exception to your usual style. Short doesn't immediately mean bad, you can cut a good long post into four and each of the parts would still be good, so the length is definitely not the way to measure the quality. I think its a way to measure the effort which usually ends up meaning quality as well.

 

[chronicle_tenko]

Again, I believe this is the exception. Also the exception to your usual style. Short doesn't immediately mean bad, you can cut a good long post into four and each of the parts would still be good, so the length is definitely not the way to measure the quality. I think its a way to measure the effort which usually ends up meaning quality as well.

This is true.

 

[DarkWarrioress]

As my editor once told me, there are two types of people, those that enjoy vivid lengthy descriptions and those that do not. There is no right way or wrong way, only preference. Personally, I am not usually what I consider a "wordy" person, but I have been known to post long. It merely depends on what I need to convey. If there is a certain texture or feel I want my readers to experience, I tend to be more wordy. However, sometimes, I want something hard, stark and fast. I deliberately want them to move from one moment to the other swiftly.