Scenes that end in death

[shy slave]

Anything is possible; but its a strange Christian who goes looking for PYLs who are near death to hear their confession (or is it just me that finds that odd??).
Have sat with dying people and never had a death bed confession. They appear to busy concentrating on either continuing to live or slipping toward death. Although my experiences have not been extensive and have, in the main, been with older people.

Few years ago in UK a politician was found hanged with a black bin liner over his head and an orange in his mouth.
Newspapers reported no-one else involved.
I always wondered how he managed to achieve the binbags, orange & height to hang himself without help.

It made the news because he was a politician.
Every day people have accidents and everyday peple die from domestic abuse.

Time and again on the threads 'trust' is the watch word.

Sadly, in both vanilla & BDSM, not everyone watches their words.

 

[Netzach]

There are quite a lot of auto-erotic hangings, actually. It's entirely possible that he kicked out the chair and his rope didn't come off the way he'd rigged it to in the past.

 

[bridgeburner]

One of my more embarassing moments in highschool was when a police detective came to lecture to our class and brought us a "locked door" mystery.

Body found when neighbors called to complain about the smell. Large, naked man found bound to kitchen chair with handcuffs and rope. Apparently the chair fell over and pulled the rope tight around his neck and he couldn't get loose before he asphixiated. There were a couple of porn mags on the table. It took me all of two seconds to blurt out "Well, it looks to me like a masturbatory accident."

You'd think that would make the boys want to sit closer to me in class but nooooo-oooo. It was apparently both intimidating and creepy, but at least my teacher didn't think I needed to see the school counselor.


I've always wondered why nobody ever mentioned that Michael Hutchens' death was an auto-erotic mishap. The man was a kink-meister, found hung naked in a doorway in his hotel room. No suicide note, an upcoming wedding to his long-time girlfriend and uh, did I mention the kinky and naked part? Yet there was never even the whiff of a suggestion that his death was anything but an intentional suicide.

Would his family really rather that he be a suicide than a kinkster who had an accident?


-B

 

[MissTaken]

sorry don't believe any of it is true.....

no one, dominant or not will take the things described lightly. I sometimes feel like a saftey nut, but actually I don't think I am. I think that anyone who is planning to do any form of play that is described is going to be quite careful.

I cannot agree with this statement. People do get careless or feel they are able to throw caution to the wind and come out of it unscathed. Inexperienced people, naive people and people who have little concern for others are all capable of being involved in these acts.

Accidents happen for many reasons and while I am not sure which if any of these stories are true, I would hate for a new sub to visit us and assume that all Dominants or people, for that matter, are always going to be aware and safe.

No, don't preach paranoia, but I do believe in caution.

People drown.
People die in burning beds.
People affixiate themselves with ropes.

And there are times when those around them are too stunned to utilize basic first aid or perhaps too drunk, high etc.

And sometimes, accidents happen inspite of the best of intentions.

 

[AvaAdore]

i think a year or so ago, i read about a case where a guy suffocated to death. of course, he had a fetish for being mummified with only a straw to breath through. the other person involved was a pro domme as far as i could tell. it was an accident.

BDSM is much less risky than a lot of things. you can get killed doing anything.

there was a Darwin nomination that i found particularly hilarious. a guy was found dead wearing a school girl uniform, blond wig, and a gas mask attached to a hose which was inserted in the guy's ass. needless to say, he removed himself from the gene pool.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Oh, I am sure those four examples have happened somewhere at some point in time. I don't know if that specific poster was really a therapist who spoke to the various neglectful partners following their accidents.

 

[RavenSpirit2k4]

I don't think they'd get past the word Pagan no matter what you typed after.

Ding ding ding! You got that right, man.

 

[badlilthang]

shudders

I'd rather take my chances marrying a pervert than a fundamentalist. [/B]

i could not agree more! As a wise man once said:

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Winston Churchill

We see it daily in the news. Fanatics killing innocent people - to try to bully the rest into submission. I will not mention any certain races or religions - because fanatics are everywhere. *s*.

Safe - sane and consensual are good words - but let's face it. There are ~not so swift~people everywhere, also those into BDSM - so yes...even though the few examples i read now - may not be true, it is a fact that people have indeed died during a session. Some could have been a heart attack - others accidental death, and some simple carelessness.

It is so important to constantly remind people into this about the SAFETY...safety first...always...s...

shuts up...before i get too longwided...lol...

bad~

 

[BDSM_Tourguide]

The only solution is education- somehow, we need to make people aware of what bdsm is, and how it can be done with acceptable safety (nothing is perfectly safe).

In Canada, there is a TV show called KINK that airs nationwide. The show is dedicated to showing the positive aspects of BDSM and Kink, rather than just the negative, doctored accounts people get from the evening news.

Unfortunately, as the show contains nudity and frank discussions of alternative lifestyles (both of which are allowed on national television here), it is unlikely that the American viewing audience will ever see it unless HBO picks it up.

 

[BDSM_Tourguide]

I'd rather take my chances marrying a pervert than a fundamentalist.

I would, too. I don't mean to offend the Christians in the viewing audience, but it seems to me that Western religion (Christianity foremost, but also Judaism and Mormonism) breed intolerance. Not just sexual intolerance, but intolerance of ideas and ideals that don't directly coincide with the set-in-stone fundamental beliefs of that religious system.

 

[BDSM_Tourguide]

BDSM is much less risky than a lot of things. you can get killed doing anything.

True. Driving in your car, for example, is far more likely to get you dead than anything related to BDSM.

 

[Vixandra]

From an EMT's point of view- coming onto a case where BDSM's involved can be tricky to say the least.
By law we're supposed to report anything that looks like abuse, no matter the circumstances.
So what do you do when you walk in to help a panicing Dom who's sub's tied up and having an asthema attack she can't get out off because she forgot her inhalers?

Just a scenario, not something I've seen.
Things like that make the news though, which in turn gets blown out of proportion because its not mainstream.

I think teaching would help- there are quite a few collages/universities with BDSM clubs, I think that's a good start.