snoopercharmbrights
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BORING BORING BORING
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What I have done here is wrong, which I openly admit and apologize for. My personal life is disintegrating before my eyes and I have released my anger in a way which hurts others and sets a poor example for those newbies who come here and see these hateful accusations being levied. I will try my best to keep away from here, but at the very least will be more careful in the future as to determine the real motive for my posts before making them (is it doing anyone any good, for example).
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What I have done here is wrong, which I openly admit and apologize for. My personal life is disintegrating before my eyes and I have released my anger in a way which hurts others and sets a poor example for those newbies who come here and see these hateful accusations being levied. I will try my best to keep away from here, but at the very least will be more careful in the future as to determine the real motive for my posts before making them (is it doing anyone any good, for example).
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Darkniciad
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This is also an "amateur" writing contest in the "spirit" of the contest. Shall we disqualify everyone who's ever published anything for real cash as well?
A few of mine have published to other sites before going up in the contests as well. When I finish something before the contest starts, I sometimes don't have the patience to wait when I have other avenues to start pulling in feedback immediately.
You're making much ado about nothing. The stories were on theme, and never before published on Lit.
SR called you out on bad manners and incorrect assumptions, and you're throwing everything against the wall to try to distract from your own behavior.
A few of mine have published to other sites before going up in the contests as well. When I finish something before the contest starts, I sometimes don't have the patience to wait when I have other avenues to start pulling in feedback immediately.
You're making much ado about nothing. The stories were on theme, and never before published on Lit.
SR called you out on bad manners and incorrect assumptions, and you're throwing everything against the wall to try to distract from your own behavior.
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What I have done here is wrong, which I openly admit and apologize for. My personal life is disintegrating before my eyes and I have released my anger in a way which hurts others and sets a poor example for those newbies who come here and see these hateful accusations being levied. I will try my best to keep away from here, but at the very least will be more careful in the future as to determine the real motive for my posts before making them (is it doing anyone any good, for example).
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On that note? SR has never won a contest so does he really have an edge? You'd think being a professional he could win here, but apparently not so I don;t get the problem. If he was winning left and right I could see an issue, but he's sucking wind like mostly everyone else so who cares?
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What I have done here is wrong, which I openly admit and apologize for. My personal life is disintegrating before my eyes and I have released my anger in a way which hurts others and sets a poor example for those newbies who come here and see these hateful accusations being levied. I will try my best to keep away from here, but at the very least will be more careful in the future as to determine the real motive for my posts before making them (is it doing anyone any good, for example).
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And now you don't because I disagree with you?
*shrug*
If this was anyone else who you hadn't already developed a hate-on for, you wouldn't be saying a word about it. This thread wouldn't even exist.
You've already looked back at this thread a couple of times and realized that it was a bad idea. I would seriously suggest giving that another go, and sticking to it this time.
*shrug*
If this was anyone else who you hadn't already developed a hate-on for, you wouldn't be saying a word about it. This thread wouldn't even exist.
You've already looked back at this thread a couple of times and realized that it was a bad idea. I would seriously suggest giving that another go, and sticking to it this time.
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What I have done here is wrong, which I openly admit and apologize for. My personal life is disintegrating before my eyes and I have released my anger in a way which hurts others and sets a poor example for those newbies who come here and see these hateful accusations being levied. I will try my best to keep away from here, but at the very least will be more careful in the future as to determine the real motive for my posts before making them (is it doing anyone any good, for example).
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It doesn't matter what an editor fixes in a story. (No editor can 'perfect' a story either.) If an author doesn't write a story that grabs the readers, it isn't going to win--or even qualify for--a contest.
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snoopercharmbrights
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On that particular point, I would not be averse to saying, "Yes." There is much to be said for the professionals not interfering in amateur contests.
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If they won frequently I would agree, but more often then not they do not. I know Penn Lady won recently, but not sure who before her would qualify as professional.
Honestly some of the professionals here have made so many "friends" they will never win. Touting one's resume tends to piss off the amatuers.
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By the time someone is a full 'professional', are they going to have time to post to Lit anymore? A few, yes, but not many. Plus, not everyone advertises the publishing side of their writing.
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But what defines a professional? I have some e-books out, half of which I posted here first. But they don't sell enough to support me or anything like that. Not hitting any best seller lists or whatnot. I don't consider myself a professional writer.
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So, you'd disqualify Selena, and Danielle, and PennLady, and the umpteen other authors who've gone from writing here to making a little ( or a LOT ) of money by publishing erotica, huh?
As you're so fond of saying, there's no "proof" that SR has any professional mainstream work out there, because he doesn't connect his mainstream work to his erotica. Therefore, from that perspective, his situation is no different than anybody else who publishes erotica for pay here.
But, you're going to disqualify him on his word that he's a professional. Nice that you'll "believe him" when its convenient.
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Hey I have 6 e-books on Smashwords and am currently making the cover for a seventh that I'll post tonight.
Am I a professional? Hell no. THis thread is going nowhere fast'
BTW Dark did you see AS says he's pulling all his stories? I better copy/paste some of Daddy's girls into a word doc before he does.
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*shrug* It's a threat he's made several times, atop the dozens of times he's threatened to quit posting or leave the forum completely.
It's sad if he does, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. He's cried wolf one too many times for me to have the slightest inkling towards believing it.
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No, I thought better of it and Laurel just replied back that she was holding off hoping I might come to my senses.
As you'll see I have replaced an apology everywhere I have posted on this thread. Big mistake to allow personal problems to spill over here and hurt people who have been kind to me. Well, okay, with SR it has been hit-and-miss, but lately, until now, we have been on good terms.
I was wrong in so many ways, now the best I can do is damage control. Now I know what it must be like to be Herman Cain.
I will try to steer clear of here, if I can resist the draw.
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I saw it though and was considering how to reply to it. But seeing as how you have deleted it, then I shall not respond as I was about to.
We've argued in the past, SR, and more recently come to accept one another. I apologize to you for what I did.
And yes, I do drink and go on a row for a bit, my anger surfaces, and then I lash out at what frustrates me. And usually that's you.
As I stated in the oft-repeated message I replaced my previous comments with, I am powerless to undo what has been done. The best I can do is damage control and try to learn from it.
By the way, I didn't know one could submit a previously published story to a contest. So I learned something else.
And yes, you and the cockroaches will still be around when all other forms of life have died off,
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And yes, you and the cockroaches will still be around when all other forms of life have died off,
That's pretty typical of your apologies, so I won't respond further.
What you didn't mention from my post is that it was mostly about those who egged you on (and used you, I might add) on this thread: Lovecraft68, Elfin O, Carlus Magnus, Snooper, and if your two direct and one indirect claim can be believed, Nonlady C, pulling your strings from the wings.
A nice collection of jackals.
A question I have is whether you can just refrain from malicious attacks based on false premises and leave it alone now. (I"m betting not.)
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I saw it though and was considering how to reply to it. But seeing as how you have deleted it, then I shall not respond as I was about to.
We've argued in the past, SR, and more recently come to accept one another. I apologize to you for what I did.
And yes, I do drink and go on a row for a bit, my anger surfaces, and then I lash out at what frustrates me. And usually that's you.
As I stated in the oft-repeated message I replaced my previous comments with, I am powerless to undo what has been done. The best I can do is damage control and try to learn from it.
By the way, I didn't know one could submit a previously published story to a contest. So I learned something else.
And yes, you and the cockroaches will still be around when all other forms of life have died off,
I saw his post too, and I'm glad you didn't reply to it.
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I was trying to be funny, SR. You know, add a little levity, hence the smile afterwards. In your deleted post you said that you won't be chased away or leave the forum. And so I acknowledged this with that, what I thought to be a humorous if indirect reply. Please take it as it was intended and not out of context.
You have every right to be angry with me, but what I posted was not in reaction to what anyone else added but was my full responsibility. I think for myself.
And this is where it ends, at least for me. I will try hard not to be lured back. I only returned to try and undo what I did and to ensure that you received a public apology that I feel is appropriate in this case.
And so I see you have.
snoopercharmbrights
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That's what I said - I would disqualify anyone who has published a story for money. The golf world is an analogy - amateurs can compete in open tournaments, but professionals cannot compete in amateur tournaments.
I don't recall saying that I doubted that (s)he sells erotica. I do doubt some of the claims made in the dim and distant past, but I see no reason to doubt that one.
Yes - if someone claims to be a professional that automatically would disqualify them from amateur contests. The difficulty would be if someone claims to be an amateur but stories are published for money under the same name and description (e.g. on one of the e-book sites).
To make it clear:
I regard sites like this one as essentially sites for amateurs. Therefore I infer that professionals (known or self-confessed) should not participate in the competitions.
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