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Kitty_so_frisky said:
I hate that GRRM has been too busy printing HBO money to finish a damn book in way too many years. I want to believe he’ll deliver a better ending before he dies, but honestly, I’m not that optimistic. I hated the last 2 episodes. I hate what they did to my favorite character, the big band’s ending was anticlimactic, I hate that Brienne wasn’t somehow charmed into having Tormund’s giant babies and I hate the reasoning for why they gave such a meh person the Iron Throne.
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I can't believe this website incorporated a spoiler tag. @ToPleaseHim when TF did this happen?
This changes everything. Can I hide nudes behind a spoiler tag?
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
I hate that GRRM has been too busy printing HBO money to finish a damn book in way too many years. I want to believe he’ll deliver a better ending before he dies, but honestly, I’m not that optimistic. I hated the last 2 episodes. I hate what they did to my favorite character, the big band’s ending was anticlimactic, I hate that Brienne wasn’t somehow charmed into having Tormund’s giant babies and I hate the reasoning for why they gave such a meh person the Iron Throne.
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Omg the giant babies!!

She’s not that kind of girl though … ;)
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
I hate that GRRM has been too busy printing HBO money to finish a damn book in way too many years. I want to believe he’ll deliver a better ending before he dies, but honestly, I’m not that optimistic. I hated the last 2 episodes. I hate what they did to my favorite character, the big bad’s ending was anticlimactic, I hate that Brienne wasn’t somehow charmed into having Tormund’s giant babies and I hate the reasoning for why they gave such a meh person the Iron Throne.
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I honestly think he doesn't know how to end it, but now he knows how not to. I get that. But he doesn't owe me anymore than I owe him.
 
UnquietDreams said:
I honestly think he doesn't know how to end it, but now he knows how not to. I get that. But he doesn't owe me anymore than I owe him.
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That’s not true. He sold you a story. That idea includes a resolution. He got paid based on the agreement that he would, you know, finish the story. I get why he’s unmotivated but if it’s okay to bail, I’m never buying a book until the entire story is done and the publishing industry does faster.
 
SalaciousMonkey22 said:
That’s not true. He sold you a story. That idea includes a resolution. He got paid based on the agreement that he would, you know, finish the story. I get why he’s unmotivated but if it’s okay to bail, I’m never buying a book until the entire story is done and the publishing industry does faster.
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He sold you a book. Part of a series. But he doesn't owe anyone (well, maybe his publisher) anything other than what he has supplied. But it is a creative endeavor. There is no contract between an artist and a consumer. That way leads to Misery.
 
UnquietDreams said:
I honestly think he doesn't know how to end it, but now he knows how not to. I get that. But he doesn't owe me anymore than I owe him.
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SalaciousMonkey22 said:
That’s not true. He sold you a story. That idea includes a resolution. He got paid based on the agreement that he would, you know, finish the story. I get why he’s unmotivated but if it’s okay to bail, I’m never buying a book until the entire story is done and the publishing industry does faster.
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UnquietDreams said:
He sold you a book. Part of a series. But he doesn't owe anyone (well, maybe his publisher) anything other than what he has supplied. But it is a creative endeavor. There is no contract between an artist and a consumer. That way leads to Misery.
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Yeah, I said for years I wasn’t going to start reading the series until/unless he finished it, but then received the ebooks as a gift. Even if he doesn’t owe me, I would not have wanted to spend my own money on it, knowing how he was already dragging his feet back then.

Same way I love Guns N Roses but would not spend my money on their concert tickets knowing Axel’s no-show record. 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
UnquietDreams said:
He sold you a book. Part of a series. But he doesn't owe anyone (well, maybe his publisher) anything other than what he has supplied. But it is a creative endeavor. There is no contract between an artist and a consumer. That way leads to Misery.
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No, he sold me a story. In installments. The only reason it was published, the only reason anyone bought it in the first place, was the utterly reasonable expectation that the story would be finished. Once it’s finished, I’m not owned a sequel or a prequel or more stories in that universe. But I am owed the story.
 
Kitty_so_frisky said:
Yeah, I said for years I wasn’t going to start reading the series until/unless he finished it, but then received the ebooks as a gift. Even if he doesn’t owe me, I would not have wanted to spend my own money on it, knowing how he was already dragging his feet back then.

Same way I love Guns N Roses but would not spend my money on their concert tickets knowing Axel’s no-show record. 🤷🏻‍♀️
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I understand completely. There have been several serieses I refused to start until they finished. Others I have waited for years between books (Mr. Butcher). Hell, I have been waiting for the last book of Heather Gladney's Song of Naga Teot since 1989...
 
Qky75 said:
I Am however the only person on a first world country not to have read or watched a single Harry Potter story.
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Never watched the movies.
Read all seven books.
I'm not a big movie person.
I've only watched the original three Star Wars movies. (As in 4,5,6)
 
SalaciousMonkey22 said:
No, he sold me a story. In installments. The only reason it was published, the only reason anyone bought it in the first place, was the utterly reasonable expectation that the story would be finished. Once it’s finished, I’m not owned a sequel or a prequel or more stories in that universe. But I am owed the story.
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It is a creative work, not pizza. Sometimes the story dies before it is finished. Happens to writers all of the time. You didn't pay for future stories, you paid for the book in hand. The audience is not entitled to creative output it hasn't purchased. You may have an expectation for it to come to a conclusion, but that doesn't force an artist to work. That isn't how the creative process works. Not ever writer is Sanderson.
 
UnquietDreams said:
It is a creative work, not pizza. Sometimes the story dies before it is finished. Happens to writers all of the time. You didn't pay for future stories, you paid for the book in hand. The audience is not entitled to creative output it hasn't purchased. You may have an expectation for it to come to a conclusion, but that doesn't force an artist to work. That isn't how the creative process works. Not ever writer is Sanderson.
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Write stand alone stories then.
 
UnquietDreams said:
It is a creative work, not pizza. Sometimes the story dies before it is finished. Happens to writers all of the time. You didn't pay for future stories, you paid for the book in hand. The audience is not entitled to creative output it hasn't purchased. You may have an expectation for it to come to a conclusion, but that doesn't force an artist to work. That isn't how the creative process works. Not ever writer is Sanderson.
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I'll give that to George.
But I won't excuse Patrick Rothfuss.
Two fucking books and he can't manage the third after ten years!?
Those little side novellas - cute as they are - do not count.
Get it together man!

Edit: That's my rant for the day. Quota consumed. Pills taken.

2nd edit: I'm seriously considering writing Doors of Stone myself and publishing it as fanfic.
 
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