Snippetsville: General Discussion

[Guest]

It's good for us to see authors and their work and it will be an exercise for all of us to learn how to discern what is included and why some pieces of writing won't make it the whole way to Formal Submission at Literotica. Knowing my thoughts now, I leave the choice of 'stay' or 'remove' to you dear.

Thanks, given what you say here I'll leave them, and I'll edit to put a note explaining why they are not eligible for the submitted segments.

All Authors - Urgent Comments Requested
Okey dokey as there are now two authors querying the word count limitations I stipulated between 595 and 605, the discussion is now open for all authors to make their comments and voice their preferences.

I go with 595 to 605. When it comes down to a final end I do not see how one might not figure out how to delete 5 words. We are only talking snippets here. I would like the freedom of this boundary, including the work of it. Thanks for asking.

Perdita

 

[Alex De Kok]

WSO knows my feelings on this, but I'll add it here anyway. There is a lot of agreement between us, but I think the minimum word count is too restrictive. I agree with her that there is skill in writing UP to a limit, as well as DOWN to one, but I'd prefer to see the minimum at about 570.

Alex

 

[Guest]

 

[Weird Harold]

Okey dokey as there are now two authors querying the word count limitations I stipulated between 595 and 605, the discussion is now open for all authors to make their comments and voice their preferences.

I think a pertinent question is whether inclusion in a formal submission is a "reward" for meeting the 600 word target, or a reward for writing a good story.

The 600 word story thread is bound to include a good many stories and vignettes that would get a failing grade as a creative writing assignment witha primary requirement of hitting a specific word count, but are nevertheless very good stories if the specific target word count isn't the prime consideration of worthness.

How many authors are going to nominate a story for inclusion without running Word's word count function first? How many authors will second the nomination or support the nomination without counting the words?

An absolute upper limit of 605 words is reasonable because of the formatting considerations involved in fitting five stories on one Lit page, but I wonder if disqualifying short word counts that are highly acclaimed can be justified with equal rationality.

In other words, does the word count trump the acclamation of other authors and relevance of a story's content?

I do understand that the basic concept of the 600 word story thread is a colletion of snippets written to an exact word count of 600, but is that also the intent of the formal submissions?

Or is the intent of the formal submissions (and implicit inclusion in the"canon of Snippetsville") to collect the stories that best reflect the ambience of Snippetsville?

 

[Quasimodem]

The original thread had 40 stories. There would be more, but they called a moratorium.

All these stories fell within two or three words of the 600 word limit. That's true, even considering differences in word processors.

As I understand it, the reason for these tight qualifications for the original exercise, was to improve all the participants’ writing skills.

What is the reason for reducing those requirements?

 

[gauchecritic]

I'd have to say that the upper limit is still creditable and storyable(?) but I would also cast my vote for NO lower limit. If the story is self contained and complete at 480 words and the powers that be agree to inclusion of same then I can see no problem.

Now that there is a 'submissions team' however composed then a lower word count isn't really necessary.

When did the '600 word' thread moratoriumize?

Gauche

 

[wildsweetone]

There was no official moratorium on the stories. Alex suggested authors might like to hold their stories until the setting up of Snippettsville had been finalised.

I need to make a public note here that all Snippettsville Group authors who have signed up on the legal thread, have signed with the authorisation to submit 600 word stories.

 

[Guest]

range of snipps

I agree with Quas, Gauche, Pierce and Alex. Harold confuses me, but that's OK; when I'm confused I just turn the other cheek.

I can be very compliant as long as I know what direction to take.

pax, Perdita

 

[wildsweetone]

It is obvious with these stories that there is going to be a great deal of work put into them before they are formally submitted to Literotica.

I would like to think that if any authors had problems or difficulties with reaching a particular word count, that other authors (myself included) might be willing to help out and to suggest ways of reaching said word count.

There is an enormous difference between 570 words and 600 words. Thirty words can mean an entire scene change, an entire event or buffing up of existing story line.

It is a skill to meet the 600 word count and as Quasi noted, there are approximately 40 stories already existing that reached that limit without too many hassles.

I still think for consistency for both author and reader we need to stay up around the 600 word mark.

so far we have
595-605
perdita, Quasi,

570-605
Alex, PierceStreet,

no lower limit
Gauche


Okay with these statistics I'm stuck with working out what to do. Remember the object of the exercise is to write to a target i.e. 600 words, not within a target.

I am willing to concede to 585-605 words. Now, what say you?

 

[Alex De Kok]

Change of heart

I've been discussing word count with Wildsweetone outside of Lit. I have to say she's persuaded me to accept the challenge of writing to a given count. I suppose that if I were to consider short-story submissions or non-fiction submissions to magazines, where the editor might say "I want five hundred words on ... " this project of ours could help.

I'm happy with the 585-605.

Alex

 

[Guest]

 

[Guest]

I would love the challenge of 600 words plus or minues 5, but I'll go with the above (or with Gauche off into the sunset). I'm easy.

WSO, if you want I'll write a Snippettsville Sanitarium just for you once this all gets fully underway. Just tell me what you want, I'll write it (including buff orderlies, hunk doctors, special beds, etc.)

Again and again my sincere thanks,

Perdita

 

[wildsweetone]

Padded cell, pink velvet walls and champagne for breakfast, that ought to fix everything perdita

I'm just waiting to hear what Quasi and Gauche think of the 585-605 word count and then we'll take the next step.

By the way, I'm learning a lot about setting up a fictional township never having done it before. I'm also on a huge learning curve with working with other people. Thanks for putting up with me and thank you for the encouragement.

 

[Snippettsville Group]

new thread to check out in the AH

Setting Database Discussion

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=188281

wso

F I N A L L Y!

 

[Snippettsville Group]

An introduction has been added to the Snippettsville "sticky". Probably not the final version, so feel free to comment.

Alex

 

[Wantonica]

Country Club

I'm a bit confused about the Country Club. In my experience, country clubs cater to the wealthy, prominent members of society. They charge outrageous annual fees, and require members to spend another certain amount per year at the facilities to remain in the club. It is a symbol of status to be accepted into such a club, and some people wait on the list for years. I don't think this is the type of club we intend to have at Green Lake, or is it?

Also, I was under the assumption that the county seat was going to be the location where most of Snippettsville's residents work. I then noticed that we are taking them to the next county. Please clarify this for me.

Smiles,
Wantonica

 

[Guest]

Re. a country club, I'm with Wanton, but I wonder if the label is misused here? I have friends in San Francisco who belong to a very cool boat club (they race whaling canoes). Culturally it's the opposite of the SF Yacht Club, very funky building, all working class members, great music (jazz, R&B, R&R). Might this be what Snippsville could have?

Proletarian Perdita

 

[Alex De Kok]

About the Country Club, and the County Seat

Country Club

My original intention was a snobby, members-only place. Not sure why, as I only used it in the background to my 600 word 'Swan'. I'd like some sort of members' club at Green Lake, although I'm happy for it to be more democratic than it seems to be at present. Perhaps 'communal facility' is more in keeping. Any offers for what it should be? Perhaps it needs to be a hotel, or lodge?

County Seat

Although a proportion of Snippettsville's population may well work in the county seat, I'd always visualised a greater proportion commuting to the (as yet still unnamed) "City", which is in the opposite direction.

Hope that clarifies my thinking. Comments welcome.

Alex

 

[Wantonica]

Yes, the idea of a lodge has a better feel to it. A bit more rustic and not quite as upper-crust as a country club. The Lodge at Green Lake just rings more true...

Do I assume the 'city' to be the county seat of the adjoining county, and how far would the commute be? (Are counties larger in the Northwest? I am too lazy to go check right now.)

Hugs,
Wantonica

 

[Wantonica]

Giggling...

I went down to the small town bar this eve, and chose to inform my drinking buddies and bartenders that I was involved in a "writing group inventing a town like ours for the purpose of creating erotic stories occuring within the area". (No, I didn't tell them the site... lol.) In any case, they started telling me things I never imagined, some asking me to write about them and provide a copy, others pleading with me not to reveal their identities when I did write about them. It was SO cool...

A little tipsy and amazed at life,
Wantonica

 

[Guest]

Re: About the Country Club, and the County Seat

Country Club ... Any offers for what it should be? Perhaps it needs to be a hotel, or lodge?

Just to be sure I'm heard, please take my post above yours as my suggestion.

Thanks, Perdita

 

[Wantonica]

About the Country Club, and the County Seat

Just to be sure I'm heard, please take my post above yours as my suggestion.

Thanks, Perdita

I agree with perdita. We have both a "cool" boat club and a lodge. Nothing too fancy, though, as we are just a small town.

Smiles,
Wantonica

 

[Alex De Kok]

Wantonica and Perdita

Speaking personally, rather than as a co-creator of Snippettsville, I like both of these ideas. I need to check around the other threads, but I plan to start the redraft of the lakeshore area very soon and I'd like to take them both into account.

For the lodge, how about a building with reception area central, restaurant and bedrooms to one side, bar/dancing/live music to the other? All overlooking the 'beach' area with access road on the inland side? This would be a public facility.

Would it also make sense for the tourist cabins to come under the same management umbrella?

For the boat club, I'm open to ideas, but I'd like to keep it on the lines Perdita describes, although perhaps not quite so exclusive in the type of craft raced! This would be a members facility, but launching and mooring facilities would be available on a short-term basis to visitors. Does this sound feasible?

Alex

PS: Wantonica, afer your visit to that bar you may end up as adviser!

 

[Guest]

Alex, sounds good to me. How about boogie-boards?

Perdita

 

[Guest]