So let me get this straight......

Re: Re: Re: Re: way to go!

Richard49 said:
and why should I let lancaster and company chase me away?

I haven't seen lance around the parts in a week. So who would you include in his company?
 
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WriterDom said:
I haven't seen lance around the parts in a week. So who would you include in his company?

I love the way you selectively read and play dumb
You were one of those that left once because of stuff

It was Miss T's bowing to lancaster and company
and her public approval of abuse on more then one occasion
that have brought us here

this is what I have posted above
and now you go on my ignor list
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: way to go!

Richard49 said:
I love the way you selectively read and play dumb
You were one of those that left once because of stuff

It was Miss T's bowing to lancaster and company
and her public approval of abuse on more then one occasion
that have brought us here

this is what I have posted above
and now you go on my ignor list

It saddens me that I am on your ignore list. I just don't see that splitting this forum is a win for Lance. I once turned lit on its head suggesting a lav & co. But I had the balls enough to name names.
 
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WriterDom said:
It saddens me that I am on your ignore list. I just don't see that splitting this forum is a win for Lance. I once turned lit on its head suggesting a lav & co. But I had the balls enough to name names.

Sometimes the obvious is the hardest thing to see, just as it is interesting to contemplate whether certain figures have actually been absent, or instead chosen to hide beneath another name or two as suggested before by myself and Richard. To me the name may change, but the personality behind pseudonyms often reveals the true identity, and interestingly enough those pseudonyms disappear when the heat gets too much and immediately up pops another one, same personality, same messages, just a new name and virgin title. Brave, honest?...not likely.

C
 
I know people come and go with new monikers all the time, but what they write has no bearing on my opinions when I post to a thread. I don't have time to care, just as I don't have time for flaming. I state my opinion and move on to something else. And it is uncommon for me to state my opinion more than once. (I did post more than once regarding the split of this forum, but that is a rare thing.)

The bottom line is that it just doesn't matter what anyone, under a "real" name or a fake one says. We post to the threads that interest us and to the posters we find interesting. And most of us are adult enough to ignore the annoyances who have time to try and tweek us.
 
A Desert Rose said:
I know people come and go with new monikers all the time, but what they write has no bearing on my opinions when I post to a thread. I don't have time to care, just as I don't have time for flaming. I state my opinion and move on to something else. And it is uncommon for me to state my opinion more than once. (I did post more than once regarding the split of this forum, but that is a rare thing.)

The bottom line is that it just doesn't matter what anyone, under a "real" name or a fake one says. We post to the threads that interest us and to the posters we find interesting. And most of us are adult enough to ignore the annoyances who have time to try and tweek us.

This is true and also how I often think, but in this issue, as in all areas of contention and confrontation, I find it interesting those that resort to abuse and methods employed to try to silence anyone who disagrees with them while professing their way is the right way, feel it necessary to hide themselves and employ far from honest methods in achieving their goal.

I guess it is an issue of ethics for me.....if I have something I believe strongly in, or I see another being victimised etc., I am not ashamed or afraid to stand up for what I believe in and own my statements instead of inventing a number of other personalities to avoid the confrontation, and add false weight to my argument. That to me is dishonest and underhanded and far from something I could live with in myself.

C
 
catalina_francisco said:

I guess it is an issue of ethics for me.....if I have something I believe strongly in, or I see another being victimised etc., I am not ashamed or afraid to stand up for what I believe in and own my statements instead of inventing a number of other personalities to avoid the confrontation, and add false weight to my argument. That to me is dishonest and underhanded and far from something I could live with in myself.

C

I agree with you completely. I could not nor have I ever faked a screen name at Lit. Unfortunately as you well know, there are many whose ethics are not the same as yours and mine and there are many who engage in this behavior because they think it's fun and funny. Those are the ones I try to scroll past and ignore. I only begin to notice someone once I know a "name" and have become familiar with their style and opinions. I am fairly sure that I am no different from you or most others at this forum, in that regard.
 
It's sad to think that someone who averages 32 posts a day might be posting under 3 or 4 different names.
 
At the risk of mixing it up

The spili happened right as I started coming here. My understanding was there disagreement about how serious the board was, too much non-BDSM posting so the board was broken out. I'm not sure how much that really adds, other than having to click around more.

What bullies? This is an internet chat board. What can they do? There's an ignore option. I saw Lancecastor around a few times, he seemed to be a guy who loved being the center of attention. Some people found him funny some did not.

I often find myself on the opposite side of issues as Ebony Fire, but I don't blame her, we're just different.
 
Re: At the risk of mixing it up

Croctden said:
The spili happened right as I started coming here. My understanding was there disagreement about how serious the board was, too much non-BDSM posting so the board was broken out. I'm not sure how much that really adds, other than having to click around more.

What bullies? This is an internet chat board. What can they do? There's an ignore option. I saw Lancecastor around a few times, he seemed to be a guy who loved being the center of attention. Some people found him funny some did not.

I often find myself on the opposite side of issues as Ebony Fire, but I don't blame her, we're just different.

Different is good. What a boring world if we all were the same.
 
Re: At the risk of mixing it up

Croctden said:
The spili happened right as I started coming here. My understanding was there disagreement about how serious the board was, too much non-BDSM posting so the board was broken out. I'm not sure how much that really adds, other than having to click around more.

What bullies? This is an internet chat board. What can they do? There's an ignore option. I saw Lancecastor around a few times, he seemed to be a guy who loved being the center of attention. Some people found him funny some did not.

I often find myself on the opposite side of issues as Ebony Fire, but I don't blame her, we're just different.

I learned long ago to not add my 2 cents to something I was not part of
till I researched it fully

Your understanding of what happen is so far from reality
you would need a rocket ship

BTW Lancaster was not the first that Miss T approved of there public bulling
Lance the moron was ......... and he was publically and privaly threatening to turn me over to the police

nor was Lancaster alone in this mess nor was it his first
Cym was the fisrt from when I got here
and God knows I wish she was back as modator

Just an aise..... Lancaster was over on the GB telling them that Lit had been sold before he came here to fuck with us

EB and I have many things in common but one basic difference that divides us ... she sees this as just a porno board .... I see it as a commuity....... though after this last shit... I am inclined to agree with her ...... I know her advice on BDSM stuff is often superior to many

I guess one more thing I would throw out ..... we all seem to be divided by
1) Rt time BDSM D/s expernce versus online
2) those that see BDSM as some kind of game and those of us that see it as part of who we are
3) those that are just here as a mind fuck
 
Just a thought

Isn't constantly condemning someone over and over again a form of bullying? For weeks I've watched you (richard49) bully someone. It's ironic that you are putting her down for allowing bullying....because you are doing exactly the same thing you say she shouldn't permit. It's to the point of becoming annoying.
 
Re: Just a thought

Mastersprincess said:
Isn't constantly condemning someone over and over again a form of bullying? For weeks I've watched you (richard49) bully someone. It's ironic that you are putting her down for allowing bullying....because you are doing exactly the same thing you say she shouldn't permit. It's to the point of becoming annoying.

It pleases me you think so

However I never knew bulling was pointing out a persons bahavore
I will go the Women's Resourse Monday and ask them

But see I have not consistently condemed her
I did that privatly before I ever posted anything to the boards
I have over and over again corrected the misinformation
that those have placed on the boards as to what lead up to the division

Your apology is accepted
 
Re: Re: Just a thought

Richard49 said:
It pleases me you think so

However I never knew bulling was pointing out a persons bahavore
I will go the Women's Resourse Monday and ask them

But see I have not consistently condemed her
I did that privatly before I ever posted anything to the boards
I have over and over again corrected the misinformation
that those have placed on the boards as to what lead up to the division

Your apology is accepted

If you don't agree with someone, you and I and everyone else here has the right to say so. Bullying is (in my opinion) attacking them every time you get the chance. This is what I thought you were doing. (And still do.) If I am wrong, then I do apologize for that. I also apologize for approaching this here in public...I should have done so in private. I apologize for nothing more.....please do not assume differently.
 
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Mastersprincess said:
If you don't agree with someone, you and I and everyone else here has the right to say so. Bullying is (in my opinion) attacking them every time you get the chance. This is what I thought you were doing. (And still do.) If I am wrong, then I do apologize for that. I also apologize for approaching this here in public...I should have done so in private. I apologize for nothing more.....please do not assume differently.

You are wrong...totally and completely

Again you jumped in with out doing your home work

I do not assume that even this apology is sincere

Emotional abuse, by defintion, must have the intent making the other person feel belittled. That hs not been my intent. My intent was and will be to correct those that p[ost false information about why we have a divivid forum. If the owners post about why this forum is honest then Miss T was nto even honest with her.

Miss T did in fact serveral times post publically that free speech riens here and that included abusive posts like Lance the moron threatening to turn me over to the police for practicing BDSM. This was approval of public verbal abuse .... by Miss T

Yet when she was attacked by Lancaster and he started his bulling she moved his thread. Which then lead to him and others
(people mostly from the GB) to attack her more and to cause much chaos here.

cym's attack on Miss T also fit in here some where

In these attacks Lancaster, cym and others pointed out how two faced and dishonest Miss T had been .... and from my view continues to be ..........

So we have a divided board not because
1) it is easier for the newbee
2) we could not post some of this stuff before
3) etc.

We have it because Miss T has a historyu of talking out of both sides of her mouth at the same time ... both on the boards and in PMs ......... because she publically endorsed abusive/bulling posts and posters then ran for the hills when it hit her ........

Am I tring to make her feel belittled .... ??????
NOPE !!!
Just posting the facts cause others are posting less then honest information ......... hell someone posted here that they did not even know about the poll that was up about this division ......

I was here when Lancaster ran cym off and was supported by many of the same shit disturbers ... free speech ? NOPE ...... abuse .........
 
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Mastersprincess said:
If you don't agree with someone, you and I and everyone else here has the right to say so. Bullying is (in my opinion) attacking them every time you get the chance. This is what I thought you were doing. (And still do.) If I am wrong, then I do apologize for that. I also apologize for approaching this here in public...I should have done so in private. I apologize for nothing more.....please do not assume differently.

You are not welcome to pm or email me
you are not the kind of person I would welcome into my life
 
Richard, you are truly someone who grates against everything I believe in.

If someones opinion doesn't match yours, you rant. If we, god forbid, see things differently, then we are welcoming in what you dislike so much.

This is an open, free forum for those to post within the guidelines of "Freedom of Speech"..

And of course, that gives you the right to post anything back you choose.

It doesn't however give you the right to assume that you know all there is to know about every situation.

People say I am crazy for being Mod at the Lit Chat site.. if they only knew just how closely these two places were alike on the behavior scale.

To each their own and thank god for it.
 
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Richard49 said:
You are wrong...totally and completely

Again you jumped in with out doing your home work............

*snip*

Wow.....I apologize to all on Lit....I will take this to PM.
 
His_sugar said:
Richard, you are truly someone who grates against everything I believe in.

If someones opinion doesn't match yours, you rant. If we, god forbid, see things differently, then we are welcoming in what you dislike so much.

This is an open, free forum for those to post within the guidelines of "Freedom of Speech"..

And of course, that gives you the right to post anything back you choose.

It doesn't however give you the right to assume that you know all there is to know about every situation.

People say I am crazy for being Mod at the Lit Chat site.. if they only knew just how closely these two places were alike on the behavior scale.

To each their own and thank god for it.

Rather then run your mouth
show me where I am factually wrong

You are one of those that said nothing till it had happened
and have continued to post false and misleading information

Again show me where I am factually wrong

and I do have a pm from the owner saying why she split the forum
 
Richard49 said:
Rather then run your mouth

I don't have to show you anything Richard. I like you, am free to post my opinion anyway I see fit.

Glorious isn't it?

And for the record? I didn't have a problem with the way things were before.. and I don't have a problem with the way things are now. I am one of the exceptional people that deals with change really, really well.

You have a great night.. good luck finding someone to watch Secretary with you.
 
His_sugar said:
I don't have to show you anything Richard. I like you, am free to post my opinion anyway I see fit.

Glorious isn't it?

And for the record? I didn't have a problem with the way things were before.. and I don't have a problem with the way things are now. I am one of the exceptional people that deals with change really, really well.

You have a great night.. good luck finding someone to watch Secretary with you.

So you will keep posting inacurate information and jump on me for bring fact to the table ????

If that is the case I know some good Drs yoou might want to see

I do not post opinion
I post fact, when it comes to this subject,
But fact is something that some have no handshake with

BTW you are now on ignor
 
Well I certainly mixed it up

Richard49 said:
I learned long ago to not add my 2 cents to something I was not part of
till I researched it fully


That's good. When are you going to learn to not be so bitter and act as though everyone is out to get you? I was asking a serious question and you felt the need to attack me. I don't know you from Adam, I don't have anything against anyone here.

Your understanding of what happen is so far from reality
you would need a rocket ship


Which is why I asked. I never claimed to know what had happened did I? Consider this research. You (and you alone I) kept talking about bullies so I thought I'd ask.

BTW Lancaster was not the first that Miss T approved of there public bulling
Lance the moron was ......... and he was publically and privaly threatening to turn me over to the police


For what? As I said there's not really much you can do only on an internet board. Why not just ignore him?

nor was Lancaster alone in this mess nor was it his first
Cym was the fisrt from when I got here
and God knows I wish she was back as modator


Don't know Cym.

Just an aise..... Lancaster was over on the GB telling them that Lit had been sold before he came here to fuck with us

Which matches what I said: A guy who likes to be the center of attention.

EB and I have many things in common but one basic difference that divides us ... she sees this as just a porno board .... I see it as a commuity....... though after this last shit... I am inclined to agree with her ...... I know her advice on BDSM stuff is often superior to many

Pretty fucking bitter community. Clearly if everyone is not coming here for the same purpose then it going to be tough to build a community. Maybe you can with the people who want one. I've always just viewed this a get together and bullshit locale for people into BDSM. Not quite a community, more than just a porn spot.

I guess one more thing I would throw out ..... we all seem to be divided by
1) Rt time BDSM D/s expernce versus online
2) those that see BDSM as some kind of game and those of us that see it as part of who we are
3) those that are just here as a mind fuck


None of which explains why you contend bullies led to the split. Care to answer without surliness this time, or am I now public enemy #1?

Also my point about Ebony Fire was she comes from a pretty fucking different perspective than I do, but I can get along.
 
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