Strip Clubs and Pole Dancing

[policywank]

This doesn't happen nearly as often as men claim. Not saying it doesn't (i'm guilty on one count), but it isn't nearly as widespread as guys talk about. Most dancers don't want to attract any more negative attention to the business than they already get. Don't shit where you eat as they say...

And to the extent it does happen it is at the strippers discretion and certainly not something the clients can expect (well outside of certain clubs anyway) - so for the average wife, the chances that her husband is getting laid at a strip club is less than a typical pick-up bar

 

[cf23430]

amazing thread....love it....

 

[policywank]

Over the last 15 years I've enjoyed all kinds of strip clubs, and seen some amazing things done on poles including girls climbing very tall ones and sliding down. There are many great tricks.

One stripper I've befriended and is currently taking some time out to be a mom talked about pole dancing. She found it funny that women would use it to workout and be sensual. She said tray doing for a room of loud drunks...she didn't feel very sexy.

Still though I enjoy admiring women, but I behave myself which many dancers tell me is rare.

I don't know if its so rare. I have been in a quite a few strip bars and none have been of the loud Roadhouse variety. In the good ones the bouncers keep a tight lid on the place. Part of that is to protect the girls, but they have also figured out that the patrons who spend the most money are the ones who just want to sit and have a good time. It definitely gets loud but the guys throwing beer bottles and wolf whistles are usually the ones spending little money and driving everyone else away.

 

[policywank]

To understand what sort of girl becomes a dancer, consider a random cross-section of women anywhere you see them, grocery store, bar, whatever. There isn't a "type".

Not all of them start out as lean as you tend to think of them...that kind of exercise does nice things sculpting a body. So the girl you see on the outside has the same insecurities and/or strengths she had before she started.

Once they work in that industry they become pretty hyper-aware of men's intentions and a little jaded since they don't typically see men at their finest behavior.

Plus just being there implies a neediness that is not attractive to woman generally speaking.

People think strippers are either promiscuous in their personal life or unemployed hookers waiting for a John. Neither is likely true. They get plenty of sexual validation, plenty of the touch-therapy that all humans crave, why would they seek out a hypersexual lifestyle after hours anymore than any other woman might? As far as prostitution goes, they are in the sex industry exactly where they chose to be. If they wanted to be hookers the money would be better. Do some blur or cross the line? Sure... But waving a couple of hundreds at a housewife in a grocery store is more likely than assuming you can rent the stripper of your choice.

I guess maybe some of the guys are needy, but I don't think of it that way. I have higher regard for horny guys in a strip club (who are being honest about it) than the players trying to pick-up vulnerable women in bars (not saying women in bars are vulnerable just that some guys target the vulnerable).

This is my usual rant, but we try to convince guys to behave a certain way to please us. Often we are just asking them to lie to us. At least these guys aren't lying (well at least not about being horny) and they aren't creeping around in a panel van.

Some girls judge the clients for sure, but those tend to be the ones who aren't happy in the job anyway.

 

[peekingone]

just amazing to see them do some of the things on the pole. Keep it coming. Talk about great shape and strength.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

I guess maybe some of the guys are needy, but I don't think of it that way. I have higher regard for horny guys in a strip club (who are being honest about it) than the players trying to pick-up vulnerable women in bars (not saying women in bars are vulnerable just that some guys target the vulnerable).

This is my usual rant, but we try to convince guys to behave a certain way to please us. Often we are just asking them to lie to us. At least these guys aren't lying (well at least not about being horny) and they aren't creeping around in a panel van.

Some girls judge the clients for sure, but those tend to be the ones who aren't happy in the job anyway.

When I danced it was actually quite different than people would expect. Most guys would come in with their buddies, be polite, and conduct themselves properly. They would get loud, but making noise is encouraged, its how you're being loud that can be an issue. If you're cheering a dancer on, or tossing some compliments like "damn you're fine." Or "damn you're ass is hot" it was fine. But if you're making vulgar suggestions like "I got a pole you can grind," or spouting off drunken nonsense, then there's problems.

While we're on the subject of strip club etiquette. Guys, a dancer's biggest pet peeve is what we refer to as "turkey-necking". This is when you feel the need to put your elbows on the stage and lean forward like you're magically going to get a better view. Don't do it. It's distracting, makes you look like a douche, and is a good way to take a platform heel to the face when a dancer is doing her routine.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I always preferred the lap dance to the pole dance.

 

[PuttingOutFires]

Many years ago I had the good fortune of going to a bachelor party that ended up in a club that featured pole dancing. I have to admit that watching these lovely ladies was quite mesmerizing. They were very athletic and the moves that they performed were not only acrobatic but quite amazing physically. I attended college on an athletic scholarship and seriously doubt I could do what they do. We were quite boisterous but well mannered as we were celebrating a friend's last few days as a bachelor. Later, when the establishment was preparing to close a couple of the performers (for lack of a better word) came over and sat at our table and chatted us up. My first observation was how toned physically they were. I ended up engaging into conversation with one of the ladies who went by the name of Sherry and was actually quite impressed with her. She was putting herself through college, was divorced and had a child.
While some people might have assumptions about women who work at nightclubs, I for one think that each and every woman that work at these establishments have their own story. I not only enjoyed my time spent with Sherry, but we became good friends and still exchange Xmas cards and birthday greetings. She went on to become a very successful accountant and remarry and added to her family with two more children.
I caution anyone who makes snap judgments about nightclub personnel that they don't live in glass houses. Circumstances lead us to unusual occupations and afterall, we are all just trying to make a buck!!!
Appreciate and enjoy their talents...because I dare the average person to try it just once. You'd probably break your neck!!!

 

[Lustful_Intentions]

When I danced it was actually quite different than people would expect. Most guys would come in with their buddies, be polite, and conduct themselves properly. They would get loud, but making noise is encouraged, its how you're being loud that can be an issue. If you're cheering a dancer on, or tossing some compliments like "damn you're fine." Or "damn you're ass is hot" it was fine. But if you're making vulgar suggestions like "I got a pole you can grind," or spouting off drunken nonsense, then there's problems.

While we're on the subject of strip club etiquette. Guys, a dancer's biggest pet peeve is what we refer to as "turkey-necking". This is when you feel the need to put your elbows on the stage and lean forward like you're magically going to get a better view. Don't do it. It's distracting, makes you look like a douche, and is a good way to take a platform heel to the face when a dancer is doing her routine.

Admittedly, I never got much into strip clubs. I like to touch far more than I like to look, and so that was always a bit of a mental hurdle for me. I also think it is a function of reaching adulthood in places where the strip clubs were, at best, staffed with mediocre talent, both looks-wise and dancing wise.

Women who can really, truly pole dance though? They deserve a ton of respect-the upper body strength required to execute some of those moves is, frankly, astounding.

As far as etiquette goes, I suppose I'm never surprised to see how some folks behave. Men are, on balance, somewhat meat-headed, and think they're much more special than they are (guilty as charged!).

 

[policywank]

When I danced it was actually quite different than people would expect. Most guys would come in with their buddies, be polite, and conduct themselves properly. They would get loud, but making noise is encouraged, its how you're being loud that can be an issue. If you're cheering a dancer on, or tossing some compliments like "damn you're fine." Or "damn you're ass is hot" it was fine. But if you're making vulgar suggestions like "I got a pole you can grind," or spouting off drunken nonsense, then there's problems.

While we're on the subject of strip club etiquette. Guys, a dancer's biggest pet peeve is what we refer to as "turkey-necking". This is when you feel the need to put your elbows on the stage and lean forward like you're magically going to get a better view. Don't do it. It's distracting, makes you look like a douche, and is a good way to take a platform heel to the face when a dancer is doing her routine.

Guys in strip bars are generally better behaved than guys in pick-up joints. They are getting what they want and expect so why kick up a fuss. Besides in the good clubs the problem clients will find themselves in a heap on the sidewalk in seconds.

 

[hardcollege4]

I have never been to a strip club or seen a pole dancer before but am going to a bachelor party this weekend so there's a first time for everything and I think mine will be saturday night. If we do end up going I will be sure to have a full report for everyone on monday or tuesday at the latest!

 

[policywank]

Admittedly, I never got much into strip clubs. I like to touch far more than I like to look, and so that was always a bit of a mental hurdle for me. I also think it is a function of reaching adulthood in places where the strip clubs were, at best, staffed with mediocre talent, both looks-wise and dancing wise.

Women who can really, truly pole dance though? They deserve a ton of respect-the upper body strength required to execute some of those moves is, frankly, astounding.

As far as etiquette goes, I suppose I'm never surprised to see how some folks behave. Men are, on balance, somewhat meat-headed, and think they're much more special than they are (guilty as charged!).

Lots of touching in a lap dance darling

 

[Just_Jess]

I have a lot of gfs that do it here in vegas. I go see them all the time.

 

[Lustful_Intentions]

Lots of touching in a lap dance darling

I think we're talking different degrees of touching.

I have a lot of gfs that do it here in vegas. I go see them all the time.

Poor Jess-so pretty, so about to have her inbox explode with requests to join her on her next trip to Vegas.

 

[Just_Jess]

I think we're talking different degrees of touching.





Poor Jess-so pretty, so about to have her inbox explode with requests to join her on her next trip to Vegas.

LOL its AG. I live in Vegas doll

 

[Kudram123]

LOL its AG. I live in Vegas doll

So what I should be asking you then, is not if I can join you on your next trip to Vegas, but if you have a spare couch?

And it also sounds like you can point me to the best show in town

 

[Lustful_Intentions]

LOL its AG. I live in Vegas doll

Ha! I have a feeling that fact is not going to slow down the flood

 

[Just_Jess]

And it also sounds like you can point me to the best show in town [/QUOTE]

sure. or club or restaurant

 

[Just_Jess]

Ha! I have a feeling that fact is not going to slow down the flood

I can handle it

 

[JawnKarTurr]

I don't know if its so rare. I have been in a quite a few strip bars and none have been of the loud Roadhouse variety. In the good ones the bouncers keep a tight lid on the place. Part of that is to protect the girls, but they have also figured out that the patrons who spend the most money are the ones who just want to sit and have a good time. It definitely gets loud but the guys throwing beer bottles and wolf whistles are usually the ones spending little money and driving everyone else away.

There are a variety of places out there. I've seen all kinds of behavior...good bad...and strange. I always appreciate good dancing and great performances.

 

[Lustful_Intentions]

I can handle it

Don't be too hard on them-I'm sure many of them mean well, but just aren't very bright

 

[Just_Jess]

Don't be too hard on them-I'm sure many of them mean well, but just aren't very bright

LOL thats been the case so far.

 

[Rozalin_0123]

Lots of touching in a lap dance darling

Not always. Ohio in particular has stricter rules on adult oriented businesses. For example: in Ohio, if a club serves alcohol the dancers can never be bottomless, and the dancers can never touch or be touched while topless. Some townships even require that pasties be worn, regardless if alcohol is served or not. Some clubs in small towns bend these rules (like the club I danced at) because they don't get many officer visits opposed to the clubs in Cleveland or Columbus.

Lustful_Intentions, you live in the capital of shitty strip clubs. I've been to every one in your city and they were all crap. The best was Larry Flynn's, they had gorgeous women, however they didn't put forth any effort into their dancing and the lap dances of course were "air dances". If you want to have a great time at a strip club, you'll have to go out of state. Outside of Las Vegas, the two best clubs I've been to was The Industrial Strip in Chicago and Al's Diamond Cabaret in Reading, PA. Make a road trip there, 'touching' is a non-issue at either place

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Not always. Ohio in particular has stricter rules on adult oriented businesses. For example: in Ohio, if a club serves alcohol the dancers can never be bottomless, and the dancers can never touch or be touched while topless. Some townships even require that pasties be worn, regardless if alcohol is served or not. Some clubs in small towns bend these rules (like the club I danced at) because they don't get many officer visits opposed to the clubs in Cleveland or Columbus.

Lustful_Intentions, you live in the capital of shitty strip clubs. I've been to every one in your city and they were all crap. The best was Larry Flynn's, they had gorgeous women, however they didn't put forth any effort into their dancing and the lap dances of course were "air dances". If you want to have a great time at a strip club, you'll have to go out of state. Outside of Las Vegas, the two best clubs I've been to was The Industrial Strip in Chicago and Al's Diamond Cabaret in Reading, PA. Make a road trip there, 'touching' is a non-issue at either place

I never understood the "serve alcohol, girls must keep bottoms on" rule.

 

[prdigy666]

Not always. Ohio in particular has stricter rules on adult oriented businesses. For example: in Ohio, if a club serves alcohol the dancers can never be bottomless, and the dancers can never touch or be touched while topless. Some townships even require that pasties be worn, regardless if alcohol is served or not. Some clubs in small towns bend these rules (like the club I danced at) because they don't get many officer visits opposed to the clubs in Cleveland or Columbus.

Shit... Here in Jersey, if there's alcohol served, it's bottoms and tops... Satin Dolls (Bada Bing from the Sopranos) crushed my fucking dream by dropping reality on it...