Submission it's a lifestyle and not kinky.

[JMohegan]

You have NO idea how many women fantasise about men together... Many fantasise about fictional characters -- for reasons we don't have time to get into here-- but;
here's a thousand; http://slashfic.org/
here are some more; http://www.slashfiction.net/
Vampire men together; http://spanderfiles.com/contents.html
Magician men together; http://www.squidge.org/~peja/harrypotter/slash.htm
Pirates together (and marines) http://www.squidge.org/horizon/
Men doing really kinky things; http://kink-bingo.dreamwidth.org/ (and women and others-- check out the "tentacles" tag OMG! There are almost two thousand people named as watching or a member of that site...

Here are sources for original M/M smexyness; http://www.google.com/search?q=original+slash

Aren't you gad you asked?

Actually, yes! I got quite a chuckle out of the Kirk/Spock pic at that first link.

Hey ITW - the current conversation reminds me of this.

 

[00Syd]

Whoa, totally missed this entire thread because I was home for the weekend, but I'd just like to chime in and say that I generally agree with Stella's view of the bi-fad, although it annoyed the piss out of me during high school, and that I LOVE slashfic. Omg Kirk/Spock.

Also, don't know how many people watch Metalocalypse, but I came across some HOT Tokie/Skwisgarr slashfic last week. Totally wank-worthy.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Whoa, totally missed this entire thread because I was home for the weekend, but I'd just like to chime in and say that I generally agree with Stella's view of the bi-fad, although it annoyed the piss out of me during high school, and that I LOVE slashfic. Omg Kirk/Spock.

Also, don't know how many people watch Metalocalypse, but I came across some HOT Tokie/Skwisgarr slashfic last week. Totally wank-worthy.

Spander, baby! that's Buffy The vampire slayer, pairing Spike the Calvin-Klein-model beautiful, hundred-twenty-year-old, bloodthirsty, vampire with-a-broken-wing with Xander Harris, the zeppo, the donut boy, the only normal human in the cast with no superpowers.

Gets me every time. And SOO much BDSM! Well, what else would you expect?

 

[FurryFury]

<snip> On my own tangent, I need to learn to not answer the phone when posting on lit. When asked what I was up to I just about said, "Trying to put into words my ideas on submissive lifestyle," to my mother, no less.

Great post, the whole post but this made me snicker!



I was just thinking. I've just made like 5 errors that could have been really bad, I need to get to bed before I do something irreversible with my writing, preparing, e-mailing and so on.

 

[FurryFury]

Whoa, totally missed this entire thread because I was home for the weekend, but I'd just like to chime in and say that I generally agree with Stella's view of the bi-fad, although it annoyed the piss out of me during high school, and that I LOVE slashfic. Omg Kirk/Spock.

Also, don't know how many people watch Metalocalypse, but I came across some HOT Tokie/Skwisgarr slashfic last week. Totally wank-worthy.

Okay. I don't read slashfic or fanfics in general but OH MY the youtubes make me LAUGH! I love them!

This is my fav!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVAG6oss8RA

FF

 

[sb2009]

Toki and Swissgar!!!

 

[00Syd]

Spander, baby! that's Buffy The vampire slayer, pairing Spike the Calvin-Klein-model beautiful, hundred-twenty-year-old, bloodthirsty, vampire with-a-broken-wing with Xander Harris, the zeppo, the donut boy, the only normal human in the cast with no superpowers.

Gets me every time. And SOO much BDSM! Well, what else would you expect?

HOT! Spike always did it for me.

 

[00Syd]

Toki and Swissgar!!!

http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/...620_How_many_licks_Skwisgaar_by_KellyDawn.png

 

[sb2009]

oh wow! I am so going to send that to my husband...though he says I have more in common with Murderface than either of those :-(

 

[intothewoods]

Actually, yes! I got quite a chuckle out of the Kirk/Spock pic at that first link.

Hey ITW - the current conversation reminds me of this.

That was a good one. I miss Shankara.

 

[FurryFury]

HOT! Spike always did it for me.

Me too. I was thrilled to see the actor that plays him kissing up the commander on Torchwood.

BBC is where Wheldon should do his shows. They let you do things like that! Yay!!!

 

[intothewoods]

Funny, this week's Savage Love podcast is all about bisexuality. The fluidity of male sexuality figures heavily!

 

[midwestyankee]

<snip>

The gay leatherman groups are very hierarchical, as are almost every male-created social entity-- the Scouts, the Masons, fraternities...

Hippies were called sissies. by the (male) squares. many non-linear Polynesian societies were considered "effeminate" by the (male) Europeans that found them.

This manifests itself quite clearly in much of the right vs. left dialogue these days. Don't mean to hijack the thread but this just struck me rather strongly. I hadn't ever been able to fully articulate it, but a good chunk of my feelings about the right wing in America is the underlying attitude that you're less of a man if you have progressive ideas. I grew up in the very hierarchical Catholic church, spent much of my youth engaged in Boy Scouting, and then around the time I was 16 I simply started moving away from all things hierarchical. I don't think that it's a coincidence that this is also about the same time that I was developing my sexual ethos, which is considerably more other-centered than my cultural peers advised in the proverbial locker-room bull sessions.

 

[Stella_Omega]

This manifests itself quite clearly in much of the right vs. left dialogue these days. Don't mean to hijack the thread but this just struck me rather strongly. I hadn't ever been able to fully articulate it, but a good chunk of my feelings about the right wing in America is the underlying attitude that you're less of a man if you have progressive ideas. I grew up in the very hierarchical Catholic church, spent much of my youth engaged in Boy Scouting, and then around the time I was 16 I simply started moving away from all things hierarchical. I don't think that it's a coincidence that this is also about the same time that I was developing my sexual ethos, which is considerably more other-centered than my cultural peers advised in the proverbial locker-room bull sessions.

OH yeah. Which is one of the points of contention in the AH, isn't it? because REAL MEN write porn, baby. (But progressives write better)

/hijack

 

[midwestyankee]

OH yeah. Which is one of the points of contention in the AH, isn't it? because REAL MEN write porn, baby. (But progressives write better)

/hijack

It certainly used to be the case. I've no recent evidence as I've not posted there since sometime in the late spring. I got tired of stepping around the big steaming piles of asshat shit. [/hijack]

 

[Stella_Omega]

It certainly used to be the case. I've no recent evidence as I've not posted there since sometime in the late spring. I got tired of stepping around the big steaming piles of asshat shit. [/hijack]

I've found that bi-racial gay porn images make a good asshat shit-shovel.

Especially, the really loving images! Men kissing and looking into each other's eyes will sometimes stop a wingnut thread dead.

 

[FurryFury]

Funny, this week's Savage Love podcast is all about bisexuality. The fluidity of male sexuality figures heavily!

Interesting!

 

[FurryFury]

FYI,

This is a hijack friendly thread.

 

[midwestyankee]

I've found that bi-racial gay porn images make a good asshat shit-shovel.

Especially, the really loving images! Men kissing and looking into each other's eyes will sometimes stop a wingnut thread dead.

I should add that I had the "pleasure" of meeting one of the AH asshats at a private event last spring. The occasion included costumery and many of the participants chose such costumes as would make their gender explicitly evident. The fellow in question, I determined was all wing and no nut.

 

[VelvetSin]

The fellow in question, I determined was all wing and no nut.

I almost didn't, but I have to ask, what does "all wing and no nut" mean?

 

[Stella_Omega]

I almost didn't, but I have to ask, what does "all wing and no nut" mean?

I'm imagining big floppy empty ballsack and an eentsy dicky.

HAHAHA!

 

[VelvetSin]

I'm imagining big floppy empty ballsack and an eentsy dicky.

HAHAHA!

Well okay, that's a picture.

I promise, I tried looking it up before asking. The best I could find was the "wing nut" definition on urban dictionary about a political activist. Which made a little sense given it was mentioned that was an AH asshat, but then I started wondering if it meant all political activists have little dinkies? I mean, Bill Clinton was popular for a reason so that can't be completely true.

Anyway, sorry for that little peek inside my head, and thank you for the explanation.

 

[midwestyankee]

I almost didn't, but I have to ask, what does "all wing and no nut" mean?

A wingnut, in common usage these days, is a person who espouses political ideas from the very far right wing of the conservative spectrum. The phrase, all wing and no nut is a parody of the phrase "all foam and no beer" to mean someone of little substance.

The rest is best left to the imagination.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well okay, that's a picture.

I promise, I tried looking it up before asking. The best I could find was the "wing nut" definition on urban dictionary about a political activist. Which made a little sense given it was mentioned that was an AH asshat, but then I started wondering if it meant all political activists have little dinkies? I mean, Bill Clinton was popular for a reason so that can't be completely true.

Anyway, sorry for that little peek inside my head, and thank you for the explanation.

it's a word the rightwing tried to use against the left, but has come to mean a right-winger by default...

I hate to talk politics in my sex forum places...