Sugar

Maybe it's because I'm getting a little bit wiser with my older, but I've been looking at stuff like this lately. Yes I still have my couple bites of dark chocolate every day but I find myself cutting back or retooling in other ways. Instead of crackers, I'll opt for the handful of nuts. I find I feel better for it.

Nestle would like to help:

Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills
Nestlé has chosen a radically different path. It wants to invent and sell medicine. The products Nestlé wants to create would be based on ingredients derived from food and delivered as an appealing snack, not a pill, drawing on the company’s expertise in the dark arts of engineering food for looks, taste, and texture. Some would require a prescription, some would be over-the-counter, and some are already on store shelves today.

Nestlé’s goal is to redefine itself as a scientifically driven “nutrition, health, and wellness company,” the kind that can thrive in a world where regulators may look at Butterfingers not so differently from Benson & Hedges. If this vision is realized, a visit to the family doctor in a decade’s time might end with a prescription for a tasty Nestlé shake for heart trouble or a recommendation for an FDA-approved tea to strengthen aging joints.
 
Nestle would like to help:

Nestlé Wants to Sell You Both Sugary Snacks and Diabetes Pills
Nestlé has chosen a radically different path. It wants to invent and sell medicine. The products Nestlé wants to create would be based on ingredients derived from food and delivered as an appealing snack, not a pill, drawing on the company’s expertise in the dark arts of engineering food for looks, taste, and texture. Some would require a prescription, some would be over-the-counter, and some are already on store shelves today.

Nestlé’s goal is to redefine itself as a scientifically driven “nutrition, health, and wellness company,” the kind that can thrive in a world where regulators may look at Butterfingers not so differently from Benson & Hedges. If this vision is realized, a visit to the family doctor in a decade’s time might end with a prescription for a tasty Nestlé shake for heart trouble or a recommendation for an FDA-approved tea to strengthen aging joints.

From the article:

Baetge argues that food could be the basis for an entirely new type of medication—both preventive treatments and therapies for acute disease. Drugs delivered as foodstuffs might, in his telling, blunt the impact of aging, ease the symptoms of chronic illnesses such as diabetes, and even slow declines in cognition. Food is cheap, plentiful, and familiar. It “really turns the pharmaceutical model on its head,” he says. “How do we activate the biggest drug that we take every day?”

Instead of eating the actual good for you healthy food, just take a pill. :rolleyes: Sounds eerily familiar.


On another crazy ass note:

One small mocha frappe at McD's - 57 grams of sugar in that bitch. And that doesn't even count a burger and fries.

Think you're doing better with the small vanilla milk shake? Think again. 59 grams of sugar.

:eek:
 
Sugar's poison and I try to avoid it for the most part but I get so fucking irked by that "agave nectar" they put in everything at "healthy" places. Processed sweeteners are processed sweeteners. Eat some fruit.
 
Sugar's poison and I try to avoid it for the most part but I get so fucking irked by that "agave nectar" they put in everything at "healthy" places. Processed sweeteners are processed sweeteners. Eat some fruit.

Just don't eat too much or only fruit. The sugar breakdown is also a bitch.
 
I eat very, very little sugar. That includes fruits, something we most certainly are not meant to eat regularly. I will not consume anything with more than 4 grams of sugar in a serving.

`10% of calories from sugar is far too high and makes no sense at all when you consider the role of sugar back in our hunter gatherer days. I say no more than 2% of calories - and I personally get less than 1%.
 
I eat very, very little sugar. That includes fruits, something we most certainly are not meant to eat regularly. I will not consume anything with more than 4 grams of sugar in a serving.

`10% of calories from sugar is far too high and makes no sense at all when you consider the role of sugar back in our hunter gatherer days. I say no more than 2% of calories - and I personally get less than 1%.

Except, ya know, all that alcohol breaks down to.... Sugar. You should work on being less wrong.
 
I eat very, very little sugar. That includes fruits, something we most certainly are not meant to eat regularly. I will not consume anything with more than 4 grams of sugar in a serving.

`10% of calories from sugar is far too high and makes no sense at all when you consider the role of sugar back in our hunter gatherer days. I say no more than 2% of calories - and I personally get less than 1%.

How do you do this? It sounds extremely difficult. I would love any tips. I want to cut back on sugar but it's in everything.
 
How do you do this? It sounds extremely difficult. I would love any tips. I want to cut back on sugar but it's in everything.

Then you have to correlate with a low fat list. Pizza, nacho chips and salad dressing are not generally recognized as healthy foods. Artificial sweetners are probably worse for you than real sugar.
https://www.dietaryfiberfood.com/sugar-in-food/sugar-low-content6.php

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The "specialist" isn't always your only bet; nor the best one for that matter.

But if you feel well, and are happy. Then you're in good hands no worries.


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The body does need sugar, but not a lot, and it does matter where it comes from.

Sugar has no nutritional value at all, and is used by the body simply for energy. The body will convert any excess sugar not burned for energy as fat. Energy storage, of a sort.

One of the problems with sugar is all the added sugar found in our diets, through food processing and using sugar as a sweetener. This, coupled with less active lifestyles, slowing metabolisms as we age, and the fact that sugar is just so damn addicting, sees waistlines expanding and can be a contributing cause to diabetes, cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, and high blood pressure, to name just a few.

Being aware of where sugar is found, just how much is present, and making better, informed decisions will help reduce sugar intake.
Yogurt is a great example. Most folks think they are eating smarter by having yogurt as a snack instead of a chocolate bar, but depending on the yogurt flavour and brand, it could contain more sugar than a small chocolate bar.

Processed bread is another culprit, especially those used for burger buns in fast food joints.

And anyone claiming they are dieting and mindful of sugar and carb intake, but drink more than a couple drinks a week, are fooling themselves.
 
How do you do this? It sounds extremely difficult. I would love any tips. I want to cut back on sugar but it's in everything.

You just eat basics. Vegetables, meats, grains, whatever your style is, but just the basics and cook them yourself. In the end, the vast majority of what I eat has no ingredients list.

(I don't worry about fat, in fact I eat a good amount of it)
 
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So apparently we're supposed to have less than 10% of our daily calories come from added sugar. For a 2000 calorie/day diet that's 180 calories per day - or 45 grams. That's nothing. One 12 ounce can of soda pop has 39 grams of sugar. One 1/2 scoop of basic chocolate ice cream has 17 grams. One 20 ounce bottle of gatorade? 34 grams. One Snickers bar - 20 grams. And those are the obvious ones. Two slices of sandwich size whole wheat bread? 6 grams.

For reference, as I wasn't exactly sure:





One Month Sugar Detox - How and Why



So they are saying basically to go cold turkey. First three days - no sugars at all. No fruit, no starchy vegetables, no dairy etc. Just lots of proteins, vegetables and healthy fats. (Even if only three days, I think I'd have a very hard time with that. I eat berries and drink a large glass of milk as part of my breakfast every day.) On day four you can have one apple and one full fat dairy back. But I'd have to wait until week two to get my berries back. In week three you get grains back - oatmeal, quinoa etc. For the wine lovers, that can be put back in late in the first week. Which no big whoop for me as I don't drink. But they're messing with my rye toast for breakfast which displeases me. By week four you can have things like a little bit of ice cream twice a week.

Apparently the figure about 10% of the population is addicted to sugar. By going cold turkey it recalibrates your palate and gives the whole host of health benefits associated with lower sugar intake.





And of course the usual blah blah disclaimers about diabetics and pregnant women.

10 days without sugar

So they took 43 kids and for ten days cut back the sugar. Apparently they saw improvement in just about every metabolic marker. Lower blood sugar, lower LDL's etc down the line. Even those that did not lose weight still improved their overall health and numbers.



It used to be sugar was a rarity in our diet, but now we consume on average 130 pounds per year. And apparently fructose is a bit bastardy in that it doesn't suppress our hunger hormone. So we don't really ever feel full from it.

Maybe it's because I'm getting a little bit wiser with my older, but I've been looking at stuff like this lately. Yes I still have my couple bites of dark chocolate every day but I find myself cutting back or retooling in other ways. Instead of crackers, I'll opt for the handful of nuts. I find I feel better for it.

Go ahead....say it.

Trump's fault.
 
My sugar comes from the grape, in wine. Other than that I try to avoid it, even though it is in so much of our foods. I don't have a sweet tooth nor do I eat baked goods.
 
You just eat basics. Vegetables, meats, grains, whatever your style is, but just the basics and cook them yourself. In the end, the vast majority of what I eat has no ingredients list.

(I don't worry about fat, in fact I eat a good amount of it)

This.

I went more strict though. Raw greens and protein. Fat. Never felt more energy, couldn't take a nap if I wanted to.
 
My sugar comes from the grape, in wine. Other than that I try to avoid it, even though it is in so much of our foods. I don't have a sweet tooth nor do I eat baked goods.

Had to give up a wine habit but man do I love it. I used to drink a bottle day. :eek: As I got older I could tolerate the sugar less and less, so I had to stop that 7-8 years ago. Now I have 2-3 glasses a week. (Not at home because again I'ddrink the whole damn bottle. Only out with a meal.)
 
This.

I went more strict though. Raw greens and protein. Fat. Never felt more energy, couldn't take a nap if I wanted to.

While I cannot deny the benefits of of eating them raw, there are certain veggies I can't stand that way and cook them every time. Broccoli, brussels sprouts, mushrooms and cabbage are the first to come to mind.
 
How do you do this? It sounds extremely difficult. I would love any tips. I want to cut back on sugar but it's in everything.


A good place to start is, as LF mentioned earlier, prepare and eat your own meals, using fresh ingredients. Avoid processed foods as much as possible.

As a general rule, try to get most of your groceries and food from outside the aisles of the grocery store (I'm talking traditional layout of most grocery stores). So the produce section, meat and seafood counters, and dairy case. The foods in the aisles are generally processed, and contain a lot of salt, sugar, and ingredients requiring a degree in Chemistry to understand, so that they are shelf-stable and have a long shelf life.

If you are going to eat packaged food, read the nutritional info and get your head around what it all means. For example, the nutritional info displayed on the package is for a 'Serving Size', and not for the entire package. You may pick up a box of crackers to snack on with some hummus and is says 2 grams of sugar, but in the finer print on the label it will indicate that this is per serving, the recommended serving being 10 crackers.

Grams translated, 4 grams of sugar = 1 teaspoon of graduated sugar. So 20 grams sugar in a serving is equal to 5 teaspoons of granulated sugar. When you take a look at a can of Coca Cola (original, not diet) the 'Serving Size' is 1 can, or 12 ounces. It contains 39 grams of sugar, which is just shy of 10 teaspoons of sugar.

Some folks decide to cut soft drinks from their diets when they hear this and switch to juice, or ice tea. But a a single serving of Minute Maid Apple juice (one bottle, or 15 ounces) contains 49 grams of sugar.

Food trends and fads further muddy the waters. When something is advertised 'Fat Free', or 'Low Carb", it likely contains more sugar. With lower fat content the sugar is raised for flavouring. The 'Low Carb' is usually achieved by lowering the dietary fiber, and not the sugar.

Also, 'Sugar Free' does not necessarily mean the product contains no sugar. It may not contain white granulated sugar, but maintains it sweet flavourings with sucralose, artificial sweeteners (mmm, chemicals), or sugar substitutes like lactose and dextrose, a sugar obtained from starches. Food and label regulation loop-holes allow this to slip through. Remember that food companies are some of the biggest lobbyists out there.

Buy fresh, buy local (have you visited your local Farmer's Market?), and remember moderation and portion size. This, along with being active will help you tame the sugar beast.

Check out the documentaries FED UP and The Sugar Film to get some insight into what foods contain sugar, and just how much of the Western diet contains sugar.
 
Skips a ton of silly words and bickering.

I don't eat a lot of sugar. My sweets are mostly from fruits and juices. I use some artificial sweeteners, but not much at any one time.

I keep ice cream on hand, but never eat much at once and not every day.

Only limited baked goods. Rarely any candy of any kind; usually only around holidays.
 
The answer to low fat and low sugar is to probably cook no ingredient type foods. Even fatty meats can be cooked so the fat melts and drains away. Baked pears and apples not pies. Oatmeal with fruit not sugary cereals. Proper way to eat much pastas is with drizzle of olive oil and sea salt. No sauces required. A touch of parmesan if you want at most. Eating simply is probably faster and cheaper than anything else.
 
While I cannot deny the benefits of of eating them raw, there are certain veggies I can't stand that way and cook them every time. Broccoli, brussels sprouts, mushrooms and cabbage are the first to come to mind.

Small (raw) broccoli florets splashed with a tart vinegrette is pretty tasty, throw in some halved sherry tomatoes for a colorful salad.
 
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