Tales from the front lines

[Netzach]

Question for you and Bunny: how do you size the guy on the phone? how do you get a feel of what he's like and what he's into?

I know how to get there in person without having to go into interrogation mode. But how do you do it on the phone?

I have very targeted marketing. 99.999 percent of the men who call are interested in discussing cuckolding, male bisexuality, and in being humiliated.Every text I write, site page I've made, and byline I've written myself screams those things five or six times.

Only once in a great while do I get someone fishing in totally the wrong pond, and I'm upfront in telling them that. I have very dedicated regs and very specific new callers, I'm really entirely about niche.

I'm flexible enough that I can spin into heavy torment corporal or boot and shoe or crossdressing, real live pay pigs - but those are the other .1 percent. I'm tellin ya - bisexuality, cuckolding, humiliation. That's where it's at for me, which is fine, it's what I enjoy. I'm good at those things - I'm a cuckoldress, I have a humiliation fetish, and, being queer, I've spent a lot of time in gay bars, watching men cruise one another, when I talk to a guy who actually enjoys dick and not just wondering about it, I can understand what he's talking about.

If they're new I ask them to tell me about themselves and to entertain me, that's what they're there to do. If I forgot the specifics but remember the voice I tell them they can't really expect me to tell ALL my little animals apart all the time. It always can be spun to my advantage.

 

[BiBunny]

I have very targeted marketing. 99.999 percent of the men who call are interested in discussing cuckolding, male bisexuality, and in being humiliated.Every text I write, site page I've made, and byline I've written myself screams those things five or six times.

Only once in a great while do I get someone fishing in totally the wrong pond, and I'm upfront in telling them that. I have very dedicated regs and very specific new callers, I'm really entirely about niche.

I'm flexible enough that I can spin into heavy torment corporal or boot and shoe or crossdressing, real live pay pigs - but those are the other .1 percent. I'm tellin ya - bisexuality, cuckolding, humiliation. That's where it's at for me, which is fine, it's what I enjoy.

If they're new I ask them to tell me about themselves and to entertain me, that's what they're there to do. If I forgot the specifics but remember the voice I tell them they can't really expect me to tell ALL my little animals apart all the time. It always can be spun to my advantage.

I swear, once I gain a bit more experience, I'm going to go this route. I do very well with the callers who want little girls. *Sigh* I've already been told I sound too damned cute to do "strict, demanding Mistress" with any believability.

Ah, well, from what I can tell, there are plenty of pigtail pervs out there.

 

[Netzach]

I swear, once I gain a bit more experience, I'm going to go this route. I do very well with the callers who want little girls. *Sigh* I've already been told I sound too damned cute to do "strict, demanding Mistress" with any believability.

Ah, well, from what I can tell, there are plenty of pigtail pervs out there.

Dude.

Do not listen TOO much to dispatch or people in the mainstream of the biz.

1. Little girl's not kosher on the platform I use, they're paranoid like that. It is everywhere else, just a thought there.

2. So you can't do strict and demanding leather clad posh bitch. Neither can I. If you're after guys who want a cartoon, that's a liability, but there are other cartoons.

I bet you could be young, spoiled 19 year old money Goddess who doesn't have to lift a finger all day, buy me THAT Daddy. A lot of pigtail pervs get off on spoiling paying for and being pushed around by someone so socially inferior as a young woman without money.

Young voice + bad attitude = very hot. Very lucrative. A lot of guys get off like insanely at Dominant women who are much much younger and the emasculation provided by that setup.

 

[DeservingBitch]

I have very targeted marketing. 99.999 percent of the men who call are interested in discussing cuckolding, male bisexuality, and in being humiliated.Every text I write, site page I've made, and byline I've written myself screams those things five or six times.

Only once in a great while do I get someone fishing in totally the wrong pond, and I'm upfront in telling them that. I have very dedicated regs and very specific new callers, I'm really entirely about niche.

I'm flexible enough that I can spin into heavy torment corporal or boot and shoe or crossdressing, real live pay pigs - but those are the other .1 percent. I'm tellin ya - bisexuality, cuckolding, humiliation. That's where it's at for me, which is fine, it's what I enjoy. I'm good at those things - I'm a cuckoldress, I have a humiliation fetish, and, being queer, I've spent a lot of time in gay bars, watching men cruise one another, when I talk to a guy who actually enjoys dick and not just wondering about it, I can understand what he's talking about.

If they're new I ask them to tell me about themselves and to entertain me, that's what they're there to do. If I forgot the specifics but remember the voice I tell them they can't really expect me to tell ALL my little animals apart all the time. It always can be spun to my advantage.

That sounds like so much fun!

But I'm just not comfortable enough in my oral skills (not those ones pervs) to go there. I'm good at writting. Not so much at talking. I use my voice of course during a scene/performance, but to be convincing, I think I need it to be 'embodied' so to speak.

But I'm also the kind of person who would never go to a conference without having my presentation written down, even though I regularly teach without lecture's notes.

Back to phone sex work, do you get a thrill out of it?

 

[DeservingBitch]

I bet you could be young, spoiled 19 year old money Goddess who doesn't have to lift a finger all day, buy me THAT Daddy. A lot of pigtail pervs get off on spoiling paying for and being pushed around by someone so socially inferior as a young woman without money.

Young voice + bad attitude = very hot. Very lucrative. A lot of guys get off like insanely at Dominant women who are much much younger and the emasculation provided by that setup.

Oh - I can SO see Bunny the young spoiled bitch who pushes Daddy around and has him cater to her every whim.

 

[Netzach]

That sounds like so much fun!

But I'm just not comfortable enough in my oral skills (not those ones pervs) to go there. I'm good at writting. Not so much at talking. I use my voice of course during a scene/performance, but to be convincing, I think I need it to be 'embodied' so to speak.

But I'm also the kind of person who would never go to a conference without having my presentation written down, even though I regularly teach without lecture's notes.

Back to phone sex work, do you get a thrill out of it?

Yes indeed.

Sometimes I get off. Sometimes I just get into the zone - it's like a very difficult timed verbal puzzle. I'm good at those and I enjoy them. I really enjoy phone work, and found it 1. more enjoyable overall and 2. more cost-benefit friendly for me than live sessions. That's not universal, it's just my experience. I love to play, but I'm better off playing for love. I love to think talk and write about playing, and it actually refines my thinking to have the pressure of making a living at it in the background, so I love phone.

It's just kind of a weird thing -I don't do anything that unusual or outside myself, but last night after a long lucrative day M said to me "they like you"

And I was like "yeah, yeah they do."

I don't know why I should be good at this one thing, or what makes me good at it, and I don't even love that I'm good at it all the time. If I were more into promoting it and had more sense about promoting and follow up and customer management, I'd be rolling in it. As it is, it's a source of cash when I'm going "oh crap I need cash" in the midst of my design biz month.

 

[Betticus]

Maybe I should volunteer to be a phone sex target for all of you ladies to work on your skills.



Purely because I want to help, no other reason.

 

[BiBunny]

Dude.

Do not listen TOO much to dispatch or people in the mainstream of the biz.

1. Little girl's not kosher on the platform I use, they're paranoid like that. It is everywhere else, just a thought there.

2. So you can't do strict and demanding leather clad posh bitch. Neither can I. If you're after guys who want a cartoon, that's a liability, but there are other cartoons.

I bet you could be young, spoiled 19 year old money Goddess who doesn't have to lift a finger all day, buy me THAT Daddy. A lot of pigtail pervs get off on spoiling paying for and being pushed around by someone so socially inferior as a young woman without money.

Young voice + bad attitude = very hot. Very lucrative. A lot of guys get off like insanely at Dominant women who are much much younger and the emasculation provided by that setup.

Yeah, I know little girl's not kosher everywhere. It kinda sucks because I enjoy it. Spoiled teenaged bitch Goddess does appeal to me, though. Hmmm.

Oh - I can SO see Bunny the young spoiled bitch who pushes Daddy around and has him cater to her every whim.

Heh. I'm going to have to look into this at some point.

That sounds like so much fun!

But I'm just not comfortable enough in my oral skills (not those ones pervs) to go there. I'm good at writting. Not so much at talking. I use my voice of course during a scene/performance, but to be convincing, I think I need it to be 'embodied' so to speak.

But I'm also the kind of person who would never go to a conference without having my presentation written down, even though I regularly teach without lecture's notes.

Back to phone sex work, do you get a thrill out of it?

I enjoy probably 9 out of 10 of my calls. The occasional one I don't enjoy is either a guy who's just plain nasty or a guy who comes about the time I say, "So how are you doing today?" and slams the phone down.

I can think of about three calls so far that have made me wet. The rest of them, I enjoy for the entertainment value. That's not to say that I'm laughing at all these guys or anything. I just think it's fascinating figuring out what makes 'em get off. Some of them are so ridiculous that you have to laugh. ("Snort like a pig," for example.) But most of them are fun in that way that sitting around and talking to your friends about sex is fun. Doesn't necessarily get you off, but it's an entertaining way to pass the time nonetheless.

 

[ownedsubgal]

...just finished up with a first-timer (to me and to escorting). was also my first Mexicano experience. he scheduled one hour, which somehow morphed into 3 and a half once he was actually here. i'm pooped. and smell like man-sweat. and i'm not washing up, because when Daddy comes home the first thing he will do is sniff me, and if i don't smell like i've been used he'll be ticked.

overall it was good...he's a genuinely nice guy, and he was comfortable with me being submissive and didn't play any of that "how can i please you" junk. it was kind of cute how he kept asking permission for things..."can i touch you?", "can you kiss me?", "can i take you from behind?"....typical first-timer learning the ropes stuff. He came 3 times and was unusually energetic. at one point he screwed me for almost a solid hour. He wanted to come back tomorrow, but i had to decline as Daddy doesn't want folks getting overly attached to me...so i pushed it to Monday. hopefully i'll be able to come up with a few new things to keep him interested..

wish i could take a nap, but i have to vacuum and dust. it's on days like this when i think that maybe poly wouldn't be so bad after all lol.

 

[YourCaptor]

...just finished up with a first-timer (to me and to escorting). was also my first Mexicano experience. he scheduled one hour, which somehow morphed into 3 and a half once he was actually here. i'm pooped. and smell like man-sweat. and i'm not washing up, because when Daddy comes home the first thing he will do is sniff me, and if i don't smell like i've been used he'll be ticked.

overall it was good...he's a genuinely nice guy, and he was comfortable with me being submissive and didn't play any of that "how can i please you" junk. it was kind of cute how he kept asking permission for things..."can i touch you?", "can you kiss me?", "can i take you from behind?"....typical first-timer learning the ropes stuff. He came 3 times and was unusually energetic. at one point he screwed me for almost a solid hour. He wanted to come back tomorrow, but i had to decline as Daddy doesn't want folks getting overly attached to me...so i pushed it to Monday. hopefully i'll be able to come up with a few new things to keep him interested..

wish i could take a nap, but i have to vacuum and dust. it's on days like this when i think that maybe poly wouldn't be so bad after all lol.

*Sigh*, I could really use someone like you right now, that would be nice. Unfortunately I have no contact with the locals.

"can i touch you?"

This is amusing, I do this all the time, sub or vanilla, unless they look really confident I ask. A lot of girls find it awkward, but I think its necessary. I’m told that in person, initially I am extremely intimidating, and I have had one too many ladies jump or shrink away when I put a hand on them. So I always ask permission the first time... well sort of, it serves more as a warning system them anything else.

 

[Homburg]

This is amusing, I do this all the time, sub or vanilla, unless they look really confident I ask. A lot of girls find it awkward, but I think its necessary. I’m told that in person, initially I am extremely intimidating, and I have had one too many ladies jump or shrink away when I put a hand on them. So I always ask permission the first time... well sort of, it serves more as a warning system them anything else.

Hell, I do it with bottoms that I'm scening with. During the initial discussion/negotiation, I will say VERY clearly "You realise that I'm going to be touching you, right? I mean really touching you". And if I am going to touch them somewhere sensitive, I'll usually give a warning. Admittedly, it's a warning, not asking if I can, but I still do that. I consider it courtesy.

If, by some odd circumstance, I were in a situation where I was paying someone in such an environment, I would probably fall into the same habits, and do a negotiation. Once boundaries are set, it would go from there.

Wait, no, it would no thave to be an odd circumstance. I could easily see paying a model for a photoshoot, and it would be similar circumstances.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Wait, no, it would no thave to be an odd circumstance. I could easily see paying a model for a photoshoot, and it would be similar circumstances.

Just because it's you and I'm nice, I would do it for free.

Well, you feed me and provide me with decent coffee. Other than that, free.

 

[LilyBart]

Not meaning to hijack....but I fully expected to get home from work today and find a huge "Eliot Spitzer" digression.....

Yuck. (and I used to kinda like him. what an ass.)

That's me starting it.....
(and I usually avoid political discussions 'round here)

 

[BiBunny]

Shit, I just had a call I had a hell of a hard time dealing with.

It was nothing the guy did. He actually wanted to spend the time he'd paid for reminiscing about the past, which was fine with me. He was quite nice, and I think he just wanted someone to listen and play therapist, two things I don't really mind doing at all.

He was talking about how he's a sub, and how even though he used to be heavily involved in the lifestyle, his girlfriend now is vanilla, etc., etc. It sucks for him, but that's nothing we kinky people haven't heard before. But he got to telling me how much he missed submitting and how it made him feel. He spoke about how liberated he feels when he's obeying another and how safe and happy he feels when he's in bondage. There was just something about the way he talked about it that made me tear up.

You don't have to tell me, buddy. I know. I know exactly what it feels like. And I miss it more than anything in the world. I know exactly how it feels to be on my knees serving, and I miss every bit of poetry that's involved with it.

Luckily, all I really had to do was ask a question or two and say "mm-hmm" in the right places. That's the hardest call I've done to date, and there was no phone sex involved at all. It just reminded me of the things I miss and, I guess, made me feel a little sorry for myself. I usually don't have this problem keeping fantasy and real life separate, but....Shit, I had to sign out for a little while to get my feelings back under control.

/end maudlin Bunny

 

[DeservingBitch]

overall it was good...he's a genuinely nice guy, and he was comfortable with me being submissive and didn't play any of that "how can i please you" junk. it was kind of cute how he kept asking permission for things..."can i touch you?", "can you kiss me?", "can i take you from behind?"....typical first-timer learning the ropes stuff. He came 3 times and was unusually energetic. at one point he screwed me for almost a solid hour. He wanted to come back tomorrow, but i had to decline as Daddy doesn't want folks getting overly attached to me...so i pushed it to Monday. hopefully i'll be able to come up with a few new things to keep him interested..

I suppose he's not clear yet on the service you provide. I haven't heard of many sex workers providing the kind of service you do. They must not believe their luck at first!

In my case, those questions aren't unusual because the guy cannot assume that I'll be OK with everything he wants from me. I have to say though that I haven't heard yet "can I touch you?" -- that seems to be understood as a given. But "can I cum in your face?" has been asked a few time. And good thing for them that they did ask 'cause the answer is "no fucking way you're spewing your gooey stuff in my face". Well, not exactly with those words, but you get the point.

Oh - and I also had one guy asking where on my body he can cum. I told him on my feet, if he licks it clean afterwards. He laughted. I think he thought I was joking.

 

[LilyBart]

I suppose he's not clear yet on the service you provide. I haven't heard of many sex workers providing the kind of service you do. They must not believe their luck at first!

In my case, those questions aren't unusual because the guy cannot assume that I'll be OK with everything he wants from me. I have to say though that I haven't heard yet "can I touch you?" -- that seems to be understood as a given. But "can I cum in your face?" has been asked a few time. And good thing for them that they did ask 'cause the answer is "no fucking way you're spewing your gooey stuff in my face". Well, not exactly with those words, but you get the point.

Oh - and I also had one guy asking where on my body he can cum. I told him on my feet, if he licks it clean afterwards. He laughted. I think he thought I was joking.

Have I told you yet how much I love you?

Yes! Cum on my feet (or a few other parts) but lick me clean.

So now I have publicly outed my second fetish.

Except I thought I was normal.

Sheesh.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Shit, I just had a call I had a hell of a hard time dealing with.

Sorry to hear that Bunny. Sending you good vibes.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Have I told you yet how much I love you?

No, I don't believe you did.

Yes! Cum on my feet (or a few other parts) but lick me clean.

So now I have publicly outed my second fetish.

Except I thought I was normal.

Sheesh.

I can deal with cum on my tommy or tits, but frankly, I'd rather that it goes somewhere else, such as on my feet, in a condom, on his face, etc.

I'm not a big fan of this gooey, sticky, stinky stuff.

 

[ownedsubgal]

*Sigh*, I could really use someone like you right now, that would be nice. Unfortunately I have no contact with the locals.

"can i touch you"

This is amusing, I do this all the time, sub or vanilla, unless they look really confident I ask. A lot of girls find it awkward, but I think its necessary. I’m told that in person, initially I am extremely intimidating, and I have had one too many ladies jump or shrink away when I put a hand on them. So I always ask permission the first time... well sort of, it serves more as a warning system them anything else.

when it comes to me and men, the safest best 99.99% of the time is to just do it. if you wanna touch, touch. hard, soft, face, pussy, doesn't matter...i just want a person to be as comfortable as possible and for everything to flow naturally. asking my permission feels really weird...i mean, i'm a slave, submissive, slut and whore. not your prom date.

 

[LilyBart]

No, I don't believe you did.


I can deal with cum on my tommy or tits, but frankly, I'd rather that it goes somewhere else, such as on my feet, in a condom, on his face, etc.

I'm not a big fan of this gooey, sticky, stinky stuff.

Well, I do. love you.

I have a certain preference for the end result (gooey or not ), and I'm not inclined to diss the direction of the result, I still enjoy the cleanup.

(Although it helps that I'm in a long standing monogamous relationship, I think. We've argued about clean-up for a long, long time, though. Sigh... )

 

[DeservingBitch]

Oh - I'm just remembering now:

Billy is the only guy so far who pinned me down as queer -- like a lot of guys do, he asked if I have a partner, but instead of asking if I have a BF, he asked if I have a GF.

How the fuck did he know? He's so socially awkward, the kind of person who doesn't get non-verbal clues, I don't understand how he could pick up on this.

 

[Netzach]

Oh - I'm just remembering now:

Billy is the only guy so far who pinned me down as queer -- like a lot of guys do, he asked if I have a partner, but instead of asking if I have a BF, he asked if I have a GF.

How the fuck did he know? He's so socially awkward, the kind of person who doesn't get non-verbal clues, I don't understand how he could pick up on this.

That's the thing about Billies. They're a pain in the ass, but they keep dumping just enough intrique for you to get sucked into another round.

 

[ownedsubgal]

I suppose he's not clear yet on the service you provide. I haven't heard of many sex workers providing the kind of service you do. They must not believe their luck at first!

In my case, those questions aren't unusual because the guy cannot assume that I'll be OK with everything he wants from me. I have to say though that I haven't heard yet "can I touch you?" -- that seems to be understood as a given. But "can I cum in your face?" has been asked a few time. And good thing for them that they did ask 'cause the answer is "no fucking way you're spewing your gooey stuff in my face". Well, not exactly with those words, but you get the point.

Oh - and I also had one guy asking where on my body he can cum. I told him on my feet, if he licks it clean afterwards. He laughted. I think he thought I was joking.

lol, poor guy. as far as limits and things, i get all of that out of the way over the phone before a meeting ever takes place. it'd be too uncomfy for me talking about that kind of stuff in person, right there in the moment, it'd almost feel like i was running the show. maybe one reason why it works well for you?

the guy from today tho was totally green...to submissives, to pros, to black chicks. i think the newness of it all got to him and made him a bit overly excited, hence the long appointment. the first thing i always do with first-timers, after a quick hug at the door, is to kneel at their feet, remove their shoes (with their permission) and massage their feet. then i let the guy take the lead from there. this guy was so nervous and unsure tho that he was actually afraid to touch me. he would start to put his hands on my shoulders, then pull back, do it again, pull back, lol. finally he was like "can i touch you?"...and i was like of course, touch me however you like. after which point he pretty much mauled me and things got going pretty quickly lol.

i get the "where can i cum" question a lot too. as long as it's not unwrapped inside of me, the answer is anywhere they like. then with some you can see them struggling to hold off from letting go as they decide just where they want it to go, lol. if someone makes me choose, i always say my face. it's warm and yummy on my skin, really makes me feel good and used, and for the men i think the visual sets them off.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Well, I do. love you.

Why, thank you!

I have a certain preference for the end result (gooey or not ), and I'm not inclined to diss the direction of the result, I still enjoy the cleanup.

(Although it helps that I'm in a long standing monogamous relationship, I think. We've argued about clean-up for a long, long time, though. Sigh... )

I admit, I have double standards.

You can get your pussy juices all over me honey, I'll love it. Squirter? Bring it on baby.

But guys' cum? Meh. I'm not grossed out by it, I have swallowed plenty of it in my times, but I'm also not a big fan of it. And I'm not putting ridiculously expensive cream in my face to have cum spewed all over it. Pussy juice is fine thought. Works well with the cream. Double standards again.

 

[DeservingBitch]

That's the thing about Billies. They're a pain in the ass, but they keep dumping just enough intrique for you to get sucked into another round.

Stupid Billies.

I'll probably get sucked into another round indeed.