The Allure of the Forbidden: How willing are you to use taboo as a driver of erotic tension?

[djrip]

Consensual non-con is just a legal disclaimer. The site doesn't want to get into legal trouble if anyone accuses lit of promoting rape, they can just trot out the first C in cnc and it's (ironic) rule.

CNC is just one type of NC story. The kind where at the end, the characters go "good job honey, that was a great rape role play we just did". I call it the "we're just kidding" gambit. The majority of stories in the Relectance and Non-consent category are not this CNC style. The majority are about actual reluctance or actual non-consent. And like Simon, I have no idea why you seem to think it has something to do with the site, since the site never uses the CNC term.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

CNC is just one type of NC story. The kind where at the end, the characters go "good job honey, that was a great rape role play we just did". I call it the "we're just kidding" gambit. The majority of stories in the Relectance and Non-consent category are not this CNC style. The majority are about actual reluctance or actual non-consent. And like Simon, I have no idea why you seem to think it has something to do with the site, since the site never uses the CNC term.

https://www.literotica.com/resources/content-guidelines

To that end, we DO NOT publish works of any type featuring the following content:

...

Ravishment/non-consent fantasies in which the “victim” receives no thrill or enjoyment from the acts, or is seriously and/or permanently physically harmed/abused/maimed/killed.

That rules out any actual non-consent. Only 'happy' rape allowed. Of course, enforcement is a different matter but by letter of the rule, one way or another there must be consent in the story.

 

[SimonDoom]

That rules out any actual non-consent. Only 'happy' rape allowed. Of course, enforcement is a different matter but by letter of the rule, one way or another there must be consent in the story.

No it doesn't. The fact that the victim enjoys the sexual encounter does not mean the victim consented to it. Many, probably most stories published in this category describe conduct that would probably be illegal as nonconsensual sex if it actually happened in real life. But of course, this isn't real life, this is fantasy.

There's a big difference between a) "consensual nonconsent," which means, effectively, role-play, where it's clear that the two characters in the story are consciously roleplaying a nonconsensual encounter, and b) nonconsensual sex where the victim enjoys it, which describes the bulk of stories in this category. The nonconsensual element is an essential element of these stories. It's part of what readers want. One may think it's daft or creepy or whatever, but it is what it is.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

No it doesn't. The fact that the victim enjoys the sexual encounter does not mean the victim consented to it.

Umm, okay. I've been told again. (rolleyes)

 

[lovecraft68]

No it doesn't. The fact that the victim enjoys the sexual encounter does not mean the victim consented to it. Many, probably most stories published in this category describe conduct that would probably be illegal as nonconsensual sex if it actually happened in real life. But of course, this isn't real life, this is fantasy.

There's a big difference between a) "consensual nonconsent," which means, effectively, role-play, where it's clear that the two characters in the story are consciously roleplaying a nonconsensual encounter, and b) nonconsensual sex where the victim enjoys it, which describes the bulk of stories in this category. The nonconsensual element is an essential element of these stories. It's part of what readers want. One may think it's daft or creepy or whatever, but it is what it is.

If the person has given no consent, then this "they enjoyed it" is a myth. More than a myth, its dangerous misinformation that-I'd say 90% of the time-comes from men, who feel this need to push the idea no never means no, which you're doing now.

'I didn't want to have sex, I said no, I screamed no, I fought him, I even cried, but know what? It was great!' said no victim ever. My sister was raped 25 years ago and still has night terrors from it on occasion. But don't worry, I'll pass it on to her that she really enjoyed it.

This is why even in the fictional sense we deal with here, its less damaging to just go with flat out non con and leave it for the authors and readers who are into that fantasy(one which we all know is flat out wrong) than keep perpetuating the mansplaining, rapesplaining, and damaging line of male(mostly) thinking, that even in fictional stories we need to show "The bitch wanted it."

Also, another reminder to the class that Mind Control is 100% non con that no one can enjoy because they're under control. I'd ask you to talk yourself around that, but you'd try and I don't need to help you make yourself look even more ignorant on the topic.

You've been on this horse for some time and gotten it handed to you more than once. Can you get off it, and stop trying to explain things you can't understand?

Because honestly? Its offensive to people who know better.

 

[SimonDoom]

If the person has given no consent, then this "they enjoyed it" is a myth. More than a myth, its dangerous misinformation that-I'd say 90% of the time-comes from men, who feel this need to push the idea no never means no, which you're doing now.

'I didn't want to have sex, I said no, I screamed no, I fought him, I even cried, but know what? It was great!' said no victim ever. My sister was raped 25 years ago and still has night terrors from it on occasion. But don't worry, I'll pass it on to her that she really enjoyed it.

This is why even in the fictional sense we deal with here, its less damaging to just go with flat out non con and leave it for the authors and readers who are into that fantasy(one which we all know is flat out wrong) than keep perpetuating the mansplaining, rapesplaining, and damaging line of male(mostly) thinking, that even in fictional stories we need to show "The bitch wanted it."

Also, another reminder to the class that Mind Control is 100% non con that no one can enjoy because they're under control. I'd ask you to talk yourself around that, but you'd try and I don't need to help you make yourself look even more ignorant on the topic.

You've been on this horse for some time and gotten it handed to you more than once. Can you get off it, and stop trying to explain things you can't understand?

Because honestly? Its offensive to people who know better.

Of course it's a myth. It's fantasy. And that's what the site allows. It has for 25 years, and it's going to continue to do so. You're tilting against windmills.

You can pontificate all you want, but the people who want to read these stories don't care, and the site doesn't care, and you're just blowing smoke and virtue signaling. But you be you.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

Of course it's a myth. It's fantasy. And that's what the site allows. It has for 25 years, and it's going to continue to do so. You're tilting against windmills.

You can pontificate all you want, but the people who want to read these stories don't care, and the site doesn't care, and you're just blowing smoke and virtue signaling. But you be you.

If the site didn't care, it would not have this rule:

To that end, we DO NOT publish works of any type featuring the following content:

...

Ravishment/non-consent fantasies in which the “victim” receives no thrill or enjoyment from the acts, or is seriously and/or permanently physically harmed/abused/maimed/killed.

It cares and it cares because of the implications. The rule is nothing more than an ass-cover.

 

[djrip]

Umm, okay. I've been told again. (rolleyes)

You keep saying that after someone accurately corrects you.