The "Fuck you Covid19" thread

[cascadiabound]

Home sewn masks:

Real need or busy work for the public? Can't decide whether to dust off the sewing machine or not. I'm reading that masks really don't do much for protection/prevention of transmission.

I think the jury is out on this one.
Hand sewn surgical masks sewn out of tight weave cotton fabric or hanes type t-chirt material has been shown to be 60% effective than no mask at all.

If the public would wear hand sewn masks rather than using real medical supplies, may help keep front line providers in supplies longer. My office is considering making hand sewn masks for clerical workers, and other staff that are not providing direct care to patients who are infectious. Yet to be determined.

I do know that people are looking for something they can DO. We all feel pretty helpless in the face of this, and therefore making masks and giving them to your friends/ family so they have something that at least reminds them to not touch their face and help keep their germs to themselves is a pretty good idea. If you are going to do this, think about 3 per person - one to wear, one to be dirty and ready for wash and one that is ready to wear. Remind people that masks are no substitute for social distancing.

 

[littlebirdjoy]

SOS...
important question for any health care professional feeling comfy weighing in... you may not...

in my country they had a planned push for free MMR vaccines right now. They are still circulating this on the parent groups. My logical brain went WAIT ARE YOU INSANE NO! I'm not a doctor I know nothing compared to you... but would that not be freaking irresponsible and dangerous?

my logic says MMR uses live innoculation... you cant know whose immune system is already repressed especially with kids who arent showing symptoms... if the vaccine already specifically recomends holding off on this one if the child is at all ill... isnt this the wrong freaking time to do this???

I kinda waved a red flag at my friends on this and said "wait wait wait wait wait" but I need to double check to be sure I'm not completely off my mark.


I'm not an antivaxxer. I'm 100% for responsible immunization.


Inform me <3 please!

 

[gracie920101]

Little Bird, I don't have the knowledge to voice an opinion on this but my gut reaction is with you: Oh, HELL No!!!!

 

[littlebirdjoy]

Little Bird, I don't have the knowledge to voice an opinion on this but my gut reaction is with you: Oh, HELL No!!!!

^ At least I know I'm not off my rocker to have that instinct. ** hugs Gracie**

Ps. I mailed you a while back, im glad you are relatively okay ♡ both of you.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

SOS...
important question for any health care professional feeling comfy weighing in... you may not...

in my country they had a planned push for free MMR vaccines right now. They are still circulating this on the parent groups. My logical brain went WAIT ARE YOU INSANE NO! I'm not a doctor I know nothing compared to you... but would that not be freaking irresponsible and dangerous?

my logic says MMR uses live innoculation... you cant know whose immune system is already repressed especially with kids who arent showing symptoms... if the vaccine already specifically recomends holding off on this one if the child is at all ill... isnt this the wrong freaking time to do this???

I kinda waved a red flag at my friends on this and said "wait wait wait wait wait" but I need to double check to be sure I'm not completely off my mark.


I'm not an antivaxxer. I'm 100% for responsible immunization.


Inform me <3 please!

I listen to physicians for decisions like this. I understand your response, though. I would be more concerned about meeting up with other people during the pandemic. If my child was due for MMR, I would talk to her pediatrician, express my concerns, and then follow their advice. Delaying for a few months until the, hopeful, end of the quarantine is likely not problematic, but measles is a horrible disease. I’d love to see medical professionals weigh in.

 

[littlebirdjoy]

I listen to physicians for decisions like this. I understand your response, though. I would be more concerned about meeting up with other people during the pandemic. If my child was due for MMR, I would talk to her pediatrician, express my concerns, and then follow their advice. Delaying for a few months until the, hopeful, end of the quarantine is likely not problematic, but measles is a horrible disease. I’d love to see medical professionals weigh in.

I absolutely agree, but I dont trust medical professionals here in this country. It was still 100% chill to lie to me about my medical status because I'm a woman and my husband was unavailable to inform. < true story.

 

[profindis]

Home sewn masks:

Real need or busy work for the public? Can't decide whether to dust off the sewing machine or not. I'm reading that masks really don't do much for protection/prevention of transmission.

They are more to prevent spread from infected people by containing droplets and sputum. For a healthy person, there is little to no benefit (in fact, an intelligent argument can be made that it actually increases the risk).

Masks are certainly in short supply for medical professionals with seemingly exorbitant figures of 55 million being floated around. There is an open source design available from a Dutch guy though. If you can help, I would recommend doing it. Always better to err on the side of caution in these cases.

 

[profindis]

I absolutely agree, but I dont trust medical professionals here in this country. It was still 100% chill to lie to me about my medical status because I'm a woman and my husband was unavailable to inform. < true story.

What did they lie about, Joy?

 

[littlebirdjoy]

What did they lie about, Joy?

^replied privately as it isnt public knowledge.

 

[littlebirdjoy]

Thank you. I even hit him up on my Skype.
Ever since Denny and Dollie went poof, I’ve been keeping tabs on everyone.

I'm glad you do. <3

 

[Knoturnal]

This thread should be named the Fuck a lot of COVID19 thread.

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Cascadia Moochie

You're my heroes.

I ache to help and am in quarantine. Thank you for the outstanding work you do. I can't find much more to say at the moment than this. I feel selfish, heartbroken, angry, alone, and many other things right now.

I'm thankful to live in a state where our leaders listen to scientists.

I'm pissed off that you ladies have to endure unrecognizable workplaces at the risk of your own health while people above us treat this as a PR disaster.

I love you. That's all there is to it. I feel your pain and wish I could be there to support you.

 

[twister947]

It seems to me, the most selfless and civic minded thing available to me is to do nothing. Self isolate. And so I have. I'm being serious about this...no contacts in about a week, and I'll keep future interactions to a bare minimum. And while I'm far short of wealthy, I'm able to help several of my friends who live paycheck to paycheck. I won't let them fall. And I can sew, should that be needed. That's all.

 

[Bramblethorn]

SOS...
important question for any health care professional feeling comfy weighing in... you may not...

in my country they had a planned push for free MMR vaccines right now. They are still circulating this on the parent groups. My logical brain went WAIT ARE YOU INSANE NO! I'm not a doctor I know nothing compared to you... but would that not be freaking irresponsible and dangerous?

my logic says MMR uses live innoculation... you cant know whose immune system is already repressed especially with kids who arent showing symptoms... if the vaccine already specifically recomends holding off on this one if the child is at all ill... isnt this the wrong freaking time to do this???

I have some health background but I'm not a health professional. I am not qualified to make my own recommendation on this, and I cannot find official guidance addressing the question from sources I'd consider trustworthy, so take this as comment rather than advice.

Some considerations:

- Risk that somebody who unknowingly has coronavirus gets MMR and has a bad reaction to it as a result, vs. risk that somebody who doesn't yet have coronavirus delays the vaccination and gets measles as a result. Measles is a bad thing to get at any time, but getting it during a coronavirus crisis would be particularly bad - medical capacity will be very limited, and a patient hospitalised for measles could easily catch CV as a result.
- Risk of contracting CV while going to the doctor for the MMR shot. (I'm delaying non-urgent medical visits at the moment.)
- Likelihood that social isolation measures to prevent CV infection will also reduce rates of measles/mumps/rubella infection for now, so delaying might be okay.
- BUT, measles is more contagious than coronavirus; distancing that's sufficient to contain a CV epidemic may not be enough to contain measles.
- The CV crisis could be around for many months; if people are delaying MMR vaccination "until it's over", then the population of unvaccinated is increasing, making it more and more likely that we see a measles outbreak when social distancing ends.
- Risk that people who postpone MMR vax during the CV outbreak will not remember to get it done when things ease up.

Those are the factors I can think of. I can see arguments there both for delaying and for not delaying. It wouldn't be appropriate for me to offer my non-expert guesses as to which of those arguments are stronger. But I will ask a friend who may be in a better position to recommend and see if he wants to chime in.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Those are the factors I can think of. I can see arguments there both for delaying and for not delaying. It wouldn't be appropriate for me to offer my non-expert guesses as to which of those arguments are stronger. But I will ask a friend who may be in a better position to recommend and see if he wants to chime in.

I asked my public health contact and his response was basically "yeah, it's a hard question, we're currently trying to figure out how to do socially distant flu vaccination". Sorry not to have something more definite for ya.

 

[littlebirdjoy]

Loved your answer. Glad I wasnt the only one who went looking for official advice and came up empty handed. Do I have yoir permission to post ^ that unedited except removing your name to a group of friends? I will not if you prefer no.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Loved your answer. Glad I wasnt the only one who went looking for official advice and came up empty handed. Do I have yoir permission to post ^ that unedited except removing your name to a group of friends? I will not if you prefer no.

Sure, thanks for checking.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

On my FB wall, an old neighbor/friend, not someone I speak to in any way other than FB anymore, just made the comment that there is a tipping point and we are going to have to be okay with people dying in order to save our economy. Jesus fucking CHRIST. I’m pissed! I’ve typed and deleted a response a few times...People are really showing their true colors. By the way, he is a “pro-life” conservative, but that probably surprises no one.

 

[Goldenfool87]

On my FB wall, an old neighbor/friend, not someone I speak to in any way other than FB anymore, just made the comment that there is a tipping point and we are going to have to be okay with people dying in order to save our economy. Jesus fucking CHRIST. I’m pissed! I’ve typed and deleted a response a few times...People are really showing their true colors. By the way, he is a “pro-life” conservative, but that probably surprises no one.

I suppose this person will volunteer to be the first to go... in the spirit of saving our economy?

 

[Goldenfool87]

Fuck you! COVID 19....Fuck! You!
Sorry about that... but shit hit the fan here today and as the hospital I work at is straining under an increasing flow of infected, seriously ill people more and more of the regular care is shut down. From tomorrow on I will be working in the COVID team. I don't mind the work itself, but until today I was trying with a few dedicated collegues to keep the general care for non COVID patients running. It is no longer possible... I of course fear for the many people who have died and will die of the virus. But I also fear for the thousands of people who will die because they cannot receive the care they would have when the world was still sane...

Stay strong all!

Love,
The Fool

 

[Bramblethorn]

On my FB wall, an old neighbor/friend, not someone I speak to in any way other than FB anymore, just made the comment that there is a tipping point and we are going to have to be okay with people dying in order to save our economy. Jesus fucking CHRIST. I’m pissed! I’ve typed and deleted a response a few times...People are really showing their true colors. By the way, he is a “pro-life” conservative, but that probably surprises no one.

Funny how the same folk who were screaming about "death panels" a few years back are now pushing for seniors to die for the national "good".

 

[twister947]

Funny how the same folk who were screaming about "death panels" a few years back are now pushing for seniors to die for the national "good".

You mean the pro-life crowd?

 

[Dreamliner]

I’ve heard they were making pockets for the masks to sit in, extending the life of the mask.

Bra's, true. The material most everyday bra's are made from are apparently perfect. Seemingly started out as a joke, but when looked into was found to work. Not the padding, but the material and if you can sew you can redo each strap to provide for an adjustable mask.

 

[cookiecat]

Fuck you! COVID 19....Fuck! You!
Sorry about that... but shit hit the fan here today and as the hospital I work at is straining under an increasing flow of infected, seriously ill people more and more of the regular care is shut down. From tomorrow on I will be working in the COVID team. I don't mind the work itself, but until today I was trying with a few dedicated collegues to keep the general care for non COVID patients running. It is no longer possible... I of course fear for the many people who have died and will die of the virus. But I also fear for the thousands of people who will die because they cannot receive the care they would have when the world was still sane...

Stay strong all!

Love,
The Fool

It's really hard to fathom. Thanks for your dedication

On my FB wall, an old neighbor/friend, not someone I speak to in any way other than FB anymore, just made the comment that there is a tipping point and we are going to have to be okay with people dying in order to save our economy. Jesus fucking CHRIST. I’m pissed! I’ve typed and deleted a response a few times...People are really showing their true colors. By the way, he is a “pro-life” conservative, but that probably surprises no one.

This is just as hard to fathom. WTF?

 

[aussiegeekygal]

Fuck you! COVID 19....Fuck! You!
Sorry about that... but shit hit the fan here today and as the hospital I work at is straining under an increasing flow of infected, seriously ill people more and more of the regular care is shut down. From tomorrow on I will be working in the COVID team. I don't mind the work itself, but until today I was trying with a few dedicated collegues to keep the general care for non COVID patients running. It is no longer possible... I of course fear for the many people who have died and will die of the virus. But I also fear for the thousands of people who will die because they cannot receive the care they would have when the world was still sane...

Stay strong all!

Love,
The Fool

THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THIS PANDEMIC IS TERRIFYING

People don't seem to understand that we will still have heart attacks, appendicitis, allergic reactions, asthma attacks, diabetes, etc. during this time and will need a lot of the same resources that are being tied up to treat pneumonia/covid-19 cases.

Italy had a 200% increase in deaths year over year once you subtract the covid cases. That's hundreds of people who died from something other than covid-19 because the medical system is overtaxed.

Women will die in childbirth.
Children will die from anaphylactic shock.

This is not ok.