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[thestruggle]

He glances over at Tess and shrugs. As for what's new and exciting, I'm entirely the wrong person to ask about that. I hear Apple is still working on the fellatio Ap, so whenever they get that sorted out...I suppose it will qualify. But as for new, I picked up a new thread! So that's fresh, at least. Nods and smiles. Oooh, and I read your new post in Etham. That's both and exciting. Nods again.

Ahaha. I suppose that would be exciting. Although I totally can't wrap my head around how something like that would work.

Smiles and gives a shrug.

As for my Etham post, I'm flattered you read it! Although I'm not sure if it really qualifies as exciting, but thank you. I did try to switch it up and give Ruffles something to chew on. Beth and Levi have such a complicated dynamic, I wanted to get at that.

 

[Scuttle Buttin']

Ahaha. I suppose that would be exciting. Although I totally can't wrap my head around how something like that would work.

Smiles and gives a shrug.

As for my Etham post, I'm flattered you read it! Although I'm not sure if it really qualifies as exciting, but thank you. I did try to switch it up and give Ruffles something to chew on. Beth and Levi have such a complicated dynamic, I wanted to get at that.

Mission accomplished!

 

[Raven_Timothy]

Hay Noon I think our girl here is amazingly modest. Get this in a rageing storm of chaos and turmoil she prances in here. Seemingly care freely drops down and makes a pillow angel. And by doing so calms the storm. Then she clams it was nothing special. What do you think?

 

[Raven_Timothy]

Hi Scuttle how you doin?

 

[thestruggle]

Mission accomplished!

Hooray, thanks! Glad it worked.

Hay Noon I think our girl here is amazingly modest. Get this in a rageing storm of chaos and turmoil she prances in here. Seemingly care freely drops down and makes a pillow angel. And by doing so calms the storm. Then she clams it was nothing special. What do you think?

That was quite poetic, Raven. Thank you! And all for a pillow angel.

 

[Noon_Shadow]

I disappeared for a while. That happens, sometimes. But yes, I honestly think you're an excellent writer, Tess. Better than I am. You seem to be able to do more within your character, even if you're pushing through writer's block, than I typically am. Nods. Lately it's felt like I've had to force things.

so yes, that does qualify as both new and exciting.

 

[Raven_Timothy]

Actually if I may... You two are pretty comparable in skill. Your styles are different. But maybe complementary if worked right.

 

[Nina327]

Actually if I may... You two are pretty comparable in skill. Your styles are different. But maybe complementary if worked right.

Truth

 

[Noon_Shadow]

Raises an eyebrow in response, then shakes his head before taking a sip of water. In truth, I think that's awfully generous to me and a disservice to Tess. And I don't think I'm just saying that based on how forced my writing has felt lately.

Nods.

 

[thestruggle]

I disappeared for a while. That happens, sometimes. But yes, I honestly think you're an excellent writer, Tess. Better than I am. You seem to be able to do more within your character, even if you're pushing through writer's block, than I typically am. Nods. Lately it's felt like I've had to force things.

so yes, that does qualify as both new and exciting.

Thank you, that's gratifying to read. That's my particular aim, really, to give a really comprehensive depth of character and the "why." I try to use a lot of symbolism and I find myself going back to things later with my cowriters and saying, they did this and this can be used that way, etc. There's a bit of a downside to it, although it's not as noticeable lately now that I'm so busy, and that is that it can be a drain to write the emotionally intense stuff. The first scene with Beth and Levi was pretty raw and the other comparable to that is probably the orchard piece with Vivi. That was a real gut-punch, too. Mostly I've just been very lucky to have writing partners that want to explore the different facets of a story and aren't satisfied with just a simple plot. They let me push them and push me back.

I don't think it's really a comparison, everyone has different strengths, a different voice. Raven is right, for sure. The ability to work in spite of writer's block is a real gift, and I haven't mastered that. You've got skills, Noon! You're talented, don't underrate yourself.

 

[Raven_Timothy]

Noon I have about five hours a night to read. So I have had time to read most of yours and her works. In that respect I have watched you grow in to what you are now. You are your own worst critic. So is she you guys don't see how far you have come from where you think you are. I have said this before about few in lit I would pay money to read Tess's work. I put the two of you on the same level....what's that say about you?

 

[Noon_Shadow]

Thank you, that's gratifying to read. That's my particular aim, really, to give a really comprehensive depth of character and the "why." I try to use a lot of symbolism and I find myself going back to things later with my cowriters and saying, they did this and this can be used that way, etc. There's a bit of a downside to it, although it's not as noticeable lately now that I'm so busy, and that is that it can be a drain to write the emotionally intense stuff. The first scene with Beth and Levi was pretty raw and the other comparable to that is probably the orchard piece with Vivi. That was a real gut-punch, too. Mostly I've just been very lucky to have writing partners that want to explore the different facets of a story and aren't satisfied with just a simple plot. They let me push them and push me back.

I don't think it's really a comparison, everyone has different strengths, a different voice. Raven is right, for sure. The ability to work in spite of writer's block is a real gift, and I haven't mastered that. You've got skills, Noon! You're talented, don't underrate yourself.

I don't think I'm underrating myself. I just think that you're better. I don't think that's much of a self-criticism, either. I've done much worse. Grins.

I am looking for ways to push myself a bit, though. The thing about cooperative writing is that often, I just want to get something out to keep the story moving. I feel it's a lot better when I just take the time to get the feel for my character, so I'll hit a stride with them at some point. So I have to force my way through, a bit.

Some more intensive characters, though, I'm working on. I'm actually crap with symbolism-certainly with writing it. I'm not very efficient with my word usage.

Still, I know I'm not too hard on myself. I take some pride in my ability to write a character. Anyone ever read Jeff Shaara? He writes historical fiction-esque stuff. I thought he'd be interesting-he writes fictional accounts about real historical characters from Civil War battles. I picked up one of his books once before going on a roadtrip, thinking it would be decent material. And I've decided that no matter how knowledgeable he is, I write characters a hell of a lot better than he does. Nods. His entire schtick is to repeatedly write run on sentences to make it seem as though there's a lot going on. But it's more painful to read than it is exciting.

 

[Raven_Timothy]

Nina! Make them play together... Pretty please with sharp things on top.

 

[Scuttle Buttin']

I feel like my writing is generally good, though I know there are things that I do that tend to bug me. But, my strong suit is the plotting. Creating characters, crafting a plot, throwing in interesting twists.. endlessly fun.

And then you have to execute it...

 

[thestruggle]

I don't think I'm underrating myself. I just think that you're better. I don't think that's much of a self-criticism, either. I've done much worse. Grins.

I am looking for ways to push myself a bit, though. The thing about cooperative writing is that often, I just want to get something out to keep the story moving. I feel it's a lot better when I just take the time to get the feel for my character, so I'll hit a stride with them at some point. So I have to force my way through, a bit.

Some more intensive characters, though, I'm working on. I'm actually crap with symbolism-certainly with writing it. I'm not very efficient with my word usage.

Still, I know I'm not too hard on myself. I take some pride in my ability to write a character. Anyone ever read Jeff Shaara? He writes historical fiction-esque stuff. I thought he'd be interesting-he writes fictional accounts about real historical characters from Civil War battles. I picked up one of his books once before going on a roadtrip, thinking it would be decent material. And I've decided that no matter how knowledgeable he is, I write characters a hell of a lot better than he does. Nods. His entire schtick is to repeatedly write run on sentences to make it seem as though there's a lot going on. But it's more painful to read than it is exciting.

Sorry, I had to find Nina some stuff for her birthday. As for keeping the story moving, I think most of the threads I'm involved in can turn into chess games - for an example. I don't respond until I'm sure that I'm doing the story justice. That's my only goal. The other things are just bonuses. I guess I just don't want to write anything unless I'm challenging myself by doing it. I know some of my posts have made people uncomfortable, so I've started putting trigger warnings on most of the things I post.

And good! It's really important to be able to critique. Honestly, I don't really look at my work as good or bad, I just think, "Did I say what I wanted to say in there? Did I hit those points? Did I edit correctly?" Most importantly, "did I do what the story needed?" I know that sounds dumb but that's really what I do.

Nina! Make them play together... Pretty please with sharp things on top.

I'm soooo slow right now, Raven. I've currently got three more posts I need to write and I don't even want to think about the promised threads. My list is long and everyone's going to be waiting awhile. I'm sure Noon doesn't want to sit and wait.

I feel like my writing is generally good, though I know there are things that I do that tend to bug me. But, my strong suit is the plotting. Creating characters, crafting a plot, throwing in interesting twists.. endlessly fun.

And then you have to execute it...

It is really good. Your plots are awesome. Ruffles is seriously my favorite plotter, he never says, "Oh, we can't do that!" He just says, "Hey, that would be cool, and then they could also do this EXPLOSION OF NEAT STUFF."

 

[saysalice]

drifts sleepily through the lounge, on her way to bed...with no pants on

blinks at everyone

Oh, shit. Serious discussion.

 

[thestruggle]

drifts sleepily through the lounge, on her way to bed...with no pants on

blinks at everyone

Oh, shit. Serious discussion.

sneaks over and noms.

Alice!

 

[Noon_Shadow]

Grins at Alice, tilting his head slightly to watch her as she trudges past, nodding his head appreciatively. Well, good to see you too, sexy. Grins and then nods.

 

[Scuttle Buttin']

It is really good. Your plots are awesome. Ruffles is seriously my favorite plotter, he never says, "Oh, we can't do that!" He just says, "Hey, that would be cool, and then they could also do this EXPLOSION OF NEAT STUFF."

Heh. It's too much fun. I want to plot all the time. Just so many more ideas than I have time to do them in. But when you get on a roll with someone, it's almost as good as writing the thread itself.

 

[Scuttle Buttin']

drifts sleepily through the lounge, on her way to bed...with no pants on

blinks at everyone

Oh, shit. Serious discussion.

Where did I put that belt...

 

[saysalice]

gloms onto Tess

wiggles bum at Noon

Off to bed. Early comes early. Kisses!

 

[Raven_Timothy]

I feel like my writing is generally good, though I know there are things that I do that tend to bug me. But, my strong suit is the plotting. Creating characters, crafting a plot, throwing in interesting twists.. endlessly fun.

And then you have to execute it...

Very true.

 

[saysalice]

Where did I put that belt...

Ay! Uncalled for...

wiggles a little faster to get out the door

Night, folks!

 

[Raven_Timothy]

Good night sleep well. Fingers crossed hopefully

 

[Noon_Shadow]

Heh. It's too much fun. I want to plot all the time. Just so many more ideas than I have time to do them in. But when you get on a roll with someone, it's almost as good as writing the thread itself.

Plotting is actually my real weak point. Well, one of them. I have many. I don't come up with many ideas, I browse though other people's ideas. At least in the broad sense, the story-launch. Once the world creation and character creation is done, I do find a natural flow. My character has set motivations, so what he's going to do in a given circumstance, that's already automatic. When I've got that down, that's when I get creative with my co-writer. Let's throw this and this against the wall, create some new circumstances, and let our characters mix things up.

That's still plot generation, I guess, but on the smaller scale. Finding twists and elements to add once there's set rules in place. The genesis of ideas, I'm poor at pulling those together.