The New Urbanism

[GothTalk]

It's not a political matter.

Then no need to bring any political authority in on the matter!!! I AGREE!!

It's a physical matter. Oil remains cheap only so long as it is cheap to extract.

Right....and so long as eco-fascist like you don't attack the extraction industry like you support and promote doing all the time, we're not likely to have any drastic swings and problems.

 

[pecksniff]

Right....and so long as eco-fascist like you don't attack the extraction industry like you support and promote doing all the time, we're not likely to have any drastic swings and problems.

Of course we are likely to have drastic swings and problems. There is only so much oil down there.

 

[GothTalk]

Of course we are likely to have drastic swings and problems. There is only so much oil down there.

You keep saying that but that's just not how things are working out.

The biggest threat likely to cause drastic swings and problems is from government lunatics.....same as ever.

 

[Rightguide]

Your pretty much wrong on this ...it's a slow transition. I can tell you I'm in the process of converting as many gas power machines to electric rechargeable as possible. Ill be getting a Ford Maverick when I can get it ...it is so fucking popular it is sold out already.

Solar panel and solar portable storage stations are now getting so good....I'm heading in that direction. Ill be playing around with. 1000watt system to replace gas generators in the field. The has generators will be backup to solar.

But, you keep thinking what you're thinking....it's nice to have old farts who are stuck in the past around to remind us of the good old polluting days

Keep on believing in fantasy. Electric cars are toys for the very rich. Look up what a replacement battery will cost you after you spend $70,000 and it wears out after a few years. Think $24,000 including labor.

 

[pecksniff]

You keep saying that but that's just not how things are working out.

There is only so much oil down there. I hope you don't buy that "abiotic oil" pseudoscience.

 

[pecksniff]

Keep on believing in fantasy. Electric cars are toys for the very rich. Look up what a replacement battery will cost you after you spend $70,000 and it wears out after a few years. Think $24,000 including labor.

But electric power will be available after gasoline is not.

 

[Rightguide]

But electric power will be available after gasoline is not.

Maybe, but that is a century or more off.

 

[pecksniff]

Maybe, but that is a century or more off.

10-15 years at most.

 

[pecksniff]

See peak oil. 10-15 years at most.

 

[Rightguide]

Let's face it: The fact that practically everything built in America has been built around the automobile -- and around the assumption that everyone will have one -- is a problem.

A problem too big for traditional democratic action, so enter Peck and his Marxists to subvert the republic with ideas about outlawing our freedom of movement and imprisoning our citizens in vertical Chinese like compounds. It will be so much easier to lock people up in their buildings when the next flu scare puts us under the authority of the Marxist running the WHO, right Peck?

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2022/0...ty-over-to-who-right-under-our-noses-1240111/

 

[oggbashan]

It is not possible for electric vehicles to replace gasoline-powered vehicles on the scale we have been using them.

It is - but will take decades.

One of my neighbours has two electric cars and solar panels on his roof. He charges the cars from solar during the day and his electricity bills are a quarter of mine.

The capital cost was horrendous. The price of solar panels is dropping but electric cars are still too expensive and the battery packs don't last as long as they should.

In time, I hope that the cost of electric cars and their longer-term viability will increase but I will probably have given up driving by then. I'm ancient.

 

[pecksniff]

A problem too big for traditional democratic action, so enter Peck and his Marxists to subvert the republic with ideas about outlawing our freedom of movement and imprisoning our citizens in vertical Chinese like compounds.

Seaside is not a vertical Chinese compound.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

See peak oil. 10-15 years at most.

Peak oil was predicted in the early 1900s and the time frame has been pushed out ever since. Offshore exploration, deep drilling, lateral drilling, hydraulics, and other technology innovations keep blowing up those forecasts.

 

[phrodeau]

Peak oil was predicted in the early 1900s and the time frame has been pushed out ever since. Offshore exploration, deep drilling, lateral drilling, hydraulics, and other technology innovations keep blowing up those forecasts.

And when they come to drill in your back yard, you won’t mind a bit, right?