The politics of climate change

[Politruk]

We’ve always had to worry about that.

Not, in quite the same way, before 1800.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

We’ve always had to worry about that.

Wait, when else in human history have we had to worry about humans causing those things?

 

[Politruk]

[After setting your car on fire] Listen, your car's temperature has changed before.

 

[Rebel5soul]

 

[Politruk]

Even you should be embarrassed to cite Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is a crank. And he does not even pretend to be a climate scientist or anything in a related field.

Jordan Bernt Peterson (1962–) is a Canadian (perhaps soon-to-be failed) clinical psychologist, a retired[5] University of Toronto psychology professor, and Ultracrepidarian par excellence.[6] He has falsely claimed to be both an evolutionary biologist[note 1] and a neuroscientist[note 2] but he is neither. He has been regarded as a member of the informal Intellectual Dark Web, which has been described as a gateway into the alt-right.[10]

In 2022, Peterson sued the College of Psychologists of Ontario, which regulates clinical psychologists. The College had attempted to discipline Peterson for failing to speak in a professional manner befitting that of a clinical psychologist, which included not using hate speech in public. The College ordered Peterson to complete a "specified continuing education or remedial program" (SCERP) to maintain his membership in the College and his ability to practice clinical psychology. For this, Peterson had claimed that the College was violating his freedom of expression under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Peterson had also tried to have it both ways, claiming that psychological advice was professional speech but that the speech that the College found offensive and unprofessional was his private speech ("off duty"). A three-judge panel ruled unanimously in 2023 that the College had the right to regulate its profession and require him to take the SCERP to maintain his license. The panel ruled that Peterson still had freedom of expression but that if he wanted to maintain his license, the College had the right to require him to moderate his expression to comport with their regulations so as to maintain his license. The panel also ruled that there was no separation between he psychological advice and his offensive speech, that he was doing both under the argument from authority his time on The Joe Rogan Experience, where he introduced himself as a clinical psychologist. In essence, Peterson lost the case.[11]

Peterson has authored or coauthored more than 90 peer-reviewed articles on clinical psychology, social psychology, and personality theory.[note 3] However, Peterson is mostly known for his conservative views on religion, trans issues, and feminism, and for his incel- and MGTOW-heavy audience.[14] Although Peterson frequently makes morally questionable claims and engages in pseudoscience, his statements are notoriously incoherent, ambiguous, and jargon-laden, sometimes rising above vacuousness[14] to the level of deepity,[15] which allows him to handwave criticism as mere misrepresentations of his babbling bullshit.[14][note 4] This is ironic, as he criticises post-modernists for basically doing the same thing.

Peterson has gained something of a following for his how to live your life guidance, which mostly consists of obvious common sense, ideas recycled from the Stoics, and some fairly crummy advice. Despite promoting personal responsibility above all and telling others how to live well, he went on to abandon his very sick wife for a while to go to Russia to do a dangerous experimental medical procedure where he would get over his drug addiction by an induced coma,[16] thereby avoiding the discomfort of withdrawal and waking up with the problem that was much more easily solved with less personal work to do. Clearly, this must tick all the boxes in his principles of personal responsibility and "How To Live Your Life To The Fullest", because he hasn't seemed to lose that many fans/readers. This perhaps says something about his fans.

He is, selectively, very passionate about freedom of speech and ignorant of clear violations of freedom of speech, depending on whether it's his friends involved or a "regressive leftist". He also doesn't like it when people use those precious treasured free speech powers to say mean things about him, and he has threatened frivolous defamation lawsuits against some of those people. His own "free speech" platform, Thinkspot, will hide downvoted comments in the name of free speech, and you will have to pay a subscription to get some of that sweet free speech.[17]

 

[BAstoicguy]

I saw a morning headline, and it is so typical of jet-setting climate conferencees, that the upcoming fütball matches in Saudi Arabia are going to harm the climate as if the climate were a sensitive, delicate snowflake that melts if you fly the soccer team in a big jet instead of elitely, one at a time in a smaller, more economical private jet, and maybe, they're still working on solar for everything but the "pink-eye"...

 

[Rebel5soul]

Idiot child obviously didn't watch the video.

It is estimated that by 2035 the US will need to generate 2.8 million megawatts of electricity just to service the new data centers to support AI. That is over double our current capacity (1.3 million megawatts) and there is absolutely NO plan as to how to get there. What they do know is that it's not going to be wind or solar.

And that is precisely the point Peterson made, the greenie-weenies have NO workable plans...........none.............zero............nada.

 

[Bn2f]

Idiot child obviously didn't watch the video.

The absolute best thing one can do upon seeing the name jordan peterson on anything.

 

[Bn2f]

And that is precisely the point Peterson made, the greenie-weenies have NO workable plans...........none.............zero............nada.

Stop f'in around - tell us YOUR workable plans. What are they? What marbles on climate change and Ai energy consumption have been hitting together in your numbskull? Why am I even doing this?

You and your infected pimple of a friend here talking shit about shit you don't know nuthin on. No need to engage on any intellect - only mocking ridicules is what you're owed. Dumbfuks.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

When does Solindra kick in again???

 

[Rebel5soul]

When does Solindra kick in again???

Already has. This time around it was EV mail trucks that were used to scam the taxpayer.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Already has. This time around it was EV mail trucks that were used to scam the taxpayer.

Based on what the fire department says, I'd really love to see an EV fire. They say that the old Ford sedan fires form the 70s pale in comparison.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Based on what the fire department says, I'd really love to see an EV fire. They say that the old Ford sedan fires form the 70s pale in comparison.

How do you extinguish and EV fire?

You pick the vehicle up with a suitable lift and immerse the vehicle in a tank of mineral oil. Piece of cake.

 

[BAstoicguy]

... smother it in snowmelt...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

How do you extinguish and EV fire?

You pick the vehicle up with a suitable lift and immerse the vehicle in a tank of mineral oil. Piece of cake.

They foam the cars/property around it and let it fucking burn. They absolutely hate to see charging stations in a parking deck.

 

[Rightguide]

Always trust the real science:

https://rumble.com/v63c702-trust-the-real-science-about-climate-change.html?e9s=src_v1_upp

 

[Lazaran]

Always trust the real science:

https://rumble.com/v63c702-trust-the-real-science-about-climate-change.html?e9s=src_v1_upp

Rightard is a “contemptible fool”.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

 

[MajorRewrite]

Earth breaks yearly heat record and lurches past dangerous warming threshold

Earth recorded its hottest year ever in 2024, with such a big jump that the planet temporarily passed a major climate threshold, weather monitoring agencies announced Friday.

It’s the first time in recorded history that the planet was above a hoped-for limit to warming for an entire year, according to measurements from four of the six teams. Scientists say if Earth stays above the threshold long-term, it will mean increased deaths, destruction, species loss and sea level rise from the extreme weather that accompanies warming.

And that would come on top of a year of deadly climate catastrophes — 27 billion-dollar disasters in the U.S. alone in 2024 — and as 2025 begins with devastating wildfires in southern California.

“In the 1980s, Americans experienced one billion-dollar-plus weather and climate disaster on average every four months,” Texas Tech climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe said in an email about NOAA’s inflation-adjusted figures. “Now, there’s one every three weeks —and we already have the first of 2025 even though we’re only 9 days into the year.”

Nature fights back by hitting us where it hurts … in our wallets.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Earth breaks yearly heat record and lurches past dangerous warming threshold





Nature fights back by hitting us where it hurts … in our wallets.

OH NO! What will we do?! Panic button!

The EARTH broke a record? You sure bout that Willis?

The climate is always changing and there isn't a thing man can do to stop it. 2,000 years ago the Romans had vineyards in Britain all the way to Hadrian's wall. 1,000 years ago the Vikings were growing barley in Greenland. In geological terms, meanwhile, 2,000 years is the blink of an eye; not even significant in large-scale trends.

Sea level during the Eemian period (100,000ish years ago) was 3-5 METERS higher than today. One particular carnivore that evolved in that era was, wait for it, the polar bear. Temps were more than 5 degrees F warmer than now. We didn’t do that.

Don’t wet yer diaper there REwrite…

 

[ll74]

ThErE iS nO gLoBaL wArMiNg....It SnOwEd YeStErDaY

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

So why is the climate changing so much faster than at any other point in Earth’s history?

 

[Mrtenant]

So are we saying that, there's no climate change- so we should just keep polluting the air, earth, and water as we've always done. Hell, let's deregulate and step it up and pollute more?

Bottom line to me, us do we want clean air, water, and earth? Then why are we fucking it up? Because it cost too much? Think of the shareholders!

The shareholders!

 

[Politruk]

The climate is always changing and there isn't a thing man can do to stop it.

[After setting your car on fire] Listen, your car's temperature has changed before.

 

[HisArpy]

So are we saying that, there's no climate change- so we should just keep polluting the air, earth, and water as we've always done. Hell, let's deregulate and step it up and pollute more?

Bottom line to me, us do we want clean air, water, and earth? Then why are we fucking it up? Because it cost too much? Think of the shareholders!

The shareholders!

There's a difference between respect for the environment / reducing pollution and climate change.

That you don't understand that is why you're a libturd.