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This is horrible—paintings all over the walls... You're not even classically trained, so I don't love you like I'd love a Dora. You know I can be petty as Picasso, and why not? Sometimes you're as sterile as a Maar.

What's your purpose and what's my purpose and when does that make a difference? Oh, the jealousy can be quite demanding. It's the emotion and exertion that keeps me close to you, whether it's negative or positively negative.

I'm sure you've written me a very serious letter about it(which you haven't posted.) I'm sure you've written it, but just haven't the legs beneath you to send it. What would it say? I'd keep it my secret, maybe; even in a work of fiction I wouldn't tell all your secrets.

I once saw Jesus' face in the leaves of a tree in front of my house. I've never told you that, you'd only laugh and think poorly of me—even if it was just my brain matrixing. Then again, you might worry that it wasn't your face I evolved to see.

When I showed you how to palpate a blood pressure I regretted it immediately. You looked at me funny when we were quiet and I thought you could only be thinking how you absolutely hate hate hate me. Sometimes I just can't disappear as completely as I used too.

Now with paintings all over the walls we have to make judgments on them or there's no reason being here or there or anywhere. There's no reason to make paintings if no one's gonna think about how they can't stand 'em—and there's no reason to go out on dates if judgments aren't being made.

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I've been trying to write something that reminds me more of a poem than prose, hide the poetry in prose. Maybe this is a better example.
 
This is horrible—paintings all over the walls... You're not even classically trained, so I don't love you like I'd love a Dora. You know I can be petty as Picasso, and why not? Sometimes you're as sterile as a Maar.

What's your purpose and what's my purpose and when does that make a difference? Oh, the jealousy can be quite demanding. It's the emotion and exertion that keeps me close to you, whether it's negative or positively negative.

I'm sure you've written me a very serious letter about it(which you haven't posted.) I'm sure you've written it, but just haven't the legs beneath you to send it. What would it say? I'd keep it my secret, maybe; even in a work of fiction I wouldn't tell all your secrets.

I once saw Jesus' face in the leaves of a tree in front of my house. I've never told you that, you'd only laugh and think poorly of me—even if it was just my brain matrixing. Then again, you might worry that it wasn't your face I evolved to see.

When I showed you how to palpate a blood pressure I regretted it immediately. You looked at me funny when we were quiet and I thought you could only be thinking how you absolutely hate hate hate me. Sometimes I just can't disappear as completely as I used too.

Now with paintings all over the walls we have to make judgments on them or there's no reason being here or there or anywhere. There's no reason to make paintings if no one's gonna think about how they can't stand 'em—and there's no reason to go out on dates if judgments aren't being made.

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I've been trying to write something that reminds me more of a poem than prose, hide the poetry in prose. Maybe this is a better example.

that's not poetry enough for me, but I'm not sure what a short story in poetry would look like. More Eugenie less Onegin.
 
In this state of 'upbeat' because 'something' is about to happen is there still a corner with my blankie in it?
 
I came in to say that part of me got hit with them nerves twitches when the inevitable concern of contest judging began to lift its head; the scalpels and pointers come out and I get more nervous. Might forge ahead with these new ideas which will probably not be considered very poetic but the only place I can stick them is in one of Lit's poetry sleeves, which was part of giddy good feelings the other day, shedding that shackle of worry about what to call what, not knowing where to stick what, because it's an incredibly great feeling to know not only where to stick your stuff but to stick it there whenever you want. That's priceless. My preference is that freer flavor rather than the degree something turns out poetic or prosy or erotic or not erotic. Enjoyment trumps judgment, editorially speaking.
 
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<snip>Heh. As soon as I figure it out, I'll try to explain it better than I have thus far. For now though I'm just wiped, so sweet dreams all. :kiss:
My thoughts hover around ALL of the participants writing both a poem and a story... not a story around their own poetry, but around a different participant's poem. I'm not sure why it need be a contest, we don't need to win something to create beautiful work. In order to keep it cohesive, I suggest subs for Erotic Couplings around a singular theme: Harvest, Hunting, First Frost - these types of things.

We build an edit thread, the writers are divided into thirds or whatever works with the numbers and the works are red-inked with helpful suggestions and returned to the writers. We then create an ID that will submit 2 stories and poems in a single package once every 3 days, so that everyone has a chance to read and comment. I sincerely think that we can come up with some excellent photos or drawings to fit our theme and make some colourful illustrated Autumn Collaboration Stories (or something).
 
I'm torn between curiosity and intimidation, arousal and uncertainty... the deadline is comfortably distant right?
 
My thoughts hover around ALL of the participants writing both a poem and a story... not a story around their own poetry, but around a different participant's poem. I'm not sure why it need be a contest, we don't need to win something to create beautiful work. In order to keep it cohesive, I suggest subs for Erotic Couplings around a singular theme: Harvest, Hunting, First Frost - these types of things.

We build an edit thread, the writers are divided into thirds or whatever works with the numbers and the works are red-inked with helpful suggestions and returned to the writers. We then create an ID that will submit 2 stories and poems in a single package once every 3 days, so that everyone has a chance to read and comment. I sincerely think that we can come up with some excellent photos or drawings to fit our theme and make some colourful illustrated Autumn Collaboration Stories (or something).

I think the idea was we, as poets, have a tendency to write prose as poets. So we were gonna figure out some guidelines to what it might look like to write prose as a poet, then see who could write the best in the new form. The winner of the contest doesn't get anything, the winner should just be whoever's story reads the best as prose/poetry; they will embody a new classification of writing we're still trying to figure out. The rules should be vague because someone is going to emerge with a new way of writing a story, hopefully.

It's us judging us, there's no possibility of someone telling you you're rubbish for no reason, you can't get that kind of commentary on demand anywhere else. I figure we'll explain why we picked the winner and the runner-ups stories, if everyone wants criticism we might be able to do that too.
 
Well I think some have clear ideas in their minds of what we are discussing, what they would aim for, and others are less clear. I'm very unclear. It's why it so attracts. If after many stabs I hold up what I wanted, and said "this!" it might be quite different from the clear picture another has in mind.

So I think those who are clear should proceed and someone like me, more on the slow side of these issues, and less clear, will just go and mark out another field and add it to daily list of things to fuck around with. Set a self-imposed deadline for October 2011.
 
Ok, thanks bflagsst. I've already done that... check out my story The Ecstacy through following the link to my Lit index in my signature.
 
Well I think some have clear ideas in their minds of what we are discussing, what they would aim for, and others are less clear. I'm very unclear. It's why it so attracts. If after many stabs I hold up what I wanted, and said "this!" it might be quite different from the clear picture another has in mind.

So I think those who are clear should proceed and someone like me, more on the slow side of these issues, and less clear, will just go and mark out another field and add it to daily list of things to fuck around with. Set a self-imposed deadline for October 2011.

that deadline needs pushing back, it's way too soon. ;)

maybe one of the mods could put all the relevant 'contest' posts into a new thread so this thread can be kept for fishing. - just a thought.

:rose:
 
Ok, thanks bflagsst. I've already done that... check out my story The Ecstacy through following the link to my Lit index in my signature.

I see. I wrote a story in a similar way, sometimes it's in verse, sometimes not. I'm not sure what the others ideas on it are.

...
Heather nuzzled William's cheek, making it wet and immodest. While Jillian stood abaft, before entering abashed and conscious of her own lips.

The sisters stripped away the damp in William's room. Jillian thought she detected the scent of her sister's perfume, there in the bed sheets and in the air. She brushed her hair, bare, without make-up. Jill paused in the mirror, recalling her own mother's hands.

Meanwhile, Heather met William in the kitchen.

"Heather, are you hungry? I'd toss you an apple,
if you'd only assure me that you'd catch it—
and not let mine bruise, to catch another's fruit."

She put her arms around his neck before whispering her reply,

"My boy, I'd catch your apple,
or your pear, or your orange;
and if I dropped your apple,
I would bear your bruise.
Though I do hope you are aware,
that I'd never choose, care to, nor presume
I am even capable of wounding you."

...
 
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Well I think some have clear ideas in their minds of what we are discussing, what they would aim for, and others are less clear. I'm very unclear. It's why it so attracts. If after many stabs I hold up what I wanted, and said "this!" it might be quite different from the clear picture another has in mind.

So I think those who are clear should proceed and someone like me, more on the slow side of these issues, and less clear, will just go and mark out another field and add it to daily list of things to fuck around with. Set a self-imposed deadline for October 2011.

Unclear??!! I'm just totally bemused
 
Sorry folks, I'm the only mod around these days it seems and I'm taking care of an injured ee and fighting off a viscious case of sinusitis. Ugh. I will put a thread together tomorrow so we can discuss all these issues there. It's obvious we have pretty different ideas about how this should work, so we need to hash it out more and I don't think we should move forward with a contest until we know what we want! I do love Champ's idea about a practice/feedback thread though.

And Tihmmmmm, thank you for your gracious allowing of this extended hijack of this thread. :)

Sniffingly, headachingly yours,
Ange
 
Sorry folks, I'm the only mod around these days it seems and I'm taking care of an injured ee and fighting off a viscious case of sinusitis. Ugh. I will put a thread together tomorrow so we can discuss all these issues there. It's obvious we have pretty different ideas about how this should work, so we need to hash it out more and I don't think we should move forward with a contest until we know what we want! I do love Champ's idea about a practice/feedback thread though.

And Tihmmmmm, thank you for your gracious allowing of this extended hijack of this thread. :)

Sniffingly, headachingly yours,
Ange

I think it's a lovely idea. But the loveliness is in its vagueness. When you start thinking through the lovely vague idea and consider the application of some sort of criteria to judge it... you know?

Oh and as far as thread-jacking... I'm a proponent of, It's not the What being done but the Who who's doing the What. And your threadjacks always fire me up in a good way. :rose:
 
Sorry folks, I'm the only mod around these days it seems and I'm taking care of an injured ee and fighting off a viscious case of sinusitis. Ugh. I will put a thread together tomorrow so we can discuss all these issues there. It's obvious we have pretty different ideas about how this should work, so we need to hash it out more and I don't think we should move forward with a contest until we know what we want! I do love Champ's idea about a practice/feedback thread though.

And Tihmmmmm, thank you for your gracious allowing of this extended hijack of this thread. :)

Sniffingly, headachingly yours,
Ange

wow what are you two doing to each other up there? ;) take good care of your selfs. and i apologise for the extra workload. whatever :D whenever :D i say. :) (5 drops peppermint oil, 5 drops lavender oil, 5 drops chamomile oil - nice smelly rub for the neck, and while you're rubbing it in for ee, it'll help clear your sinuses too. ask me how i know. ;) )

:rose:
 
I'm just putting this in to see if it comes up or not I can't seem to get proper updates of who replied last which is very frustrating ...... keep getting messages saying I am doing duplicate posts but still nothing shows
 
Just an update about something we discussed briefly. I submitted a dirty story with some of Bflag's poems injected at certain points. It's a two parter and will be pretty long, don't know if it's what we imagined since it's not really that dirty at all. The poems sort of go with the story, but not really the best fit. If people like the story it won't be for its porno-ness, since there's only like one oral sex scene and a little naked in the shower stuff. I'm sure people will get mad at the poems in it though, and I think that was the point. I'm probably going to have to write a taboo story to really get the reaction he wanted.
 
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I'm just putting this in to see if it comes up or not I can't seem to get proper updates of who replied last which is very frustrating ...... keep getting messages saying I am doing duplicate posts but still nothing shows

I ran into the same sort of problem - I would post and then would never see it in the thread.
After quite a bit of trying (see how many I ended up with in the Kyrielle thread) I also noticed that it would say welcome at the top but in the thread it would say I was offline. I looked at the dates of postings and they all stopped after early Sunday (Houston time), so it was some sort of lit problem. Seems OK now.
 
I ran into the same sort of problem - I would post and then would never see it in the thread.
After quite a bit of trying (see how many I ended up with in the Kyrielle thread) I also noticed that it would say welcome at the top but in the thread it would say I was offline. I looked at the dates of postings and they all stopped after early Sunday (Houston time), so it was some sort of lit problem. Seems OK now.

I did notice you had rather a lot on that thread lol a case of verbal dire rear! I was contemplating making a new name to see if I could get on that way if it wasn't sorted by today. Sorry about the call for help Angeline!
 
I did notice you had rather a lot on that thread lol a case of verbal dire rear! I was contemplating making a new name to see if I could get on that way if it wasn't sorted by today. Sorry about the call for help Angeline!

And I apologize to Lauren for the 2 PMs (again a case of retry-itis)
 
I was thinking of FallenUnderYourSpell which had a nice pun quality to it but is probably too may letters!
 
I am a little hurt and confused and complimented all at once today. I had gone several years without art in my life. I had always judge myself as "not good enough." I loved art as a child and took art classes in high school. The reason I didn't go to art school after high school was that self-critical voice telling me that I'm not good enough.

This week has been hellishly busy. Yesterday, I had an assignment to do for my drawing class. We had to do 3 quick sketches (taking up to 3 minutes to complete) using charcoal of a thing from nature. We were supposed to stand the object up in a vase. No problem. I had a dead flower left over from a bouquet.

I set the lighting to cast shadows in the flower. We were supposed to do extra sketches and pick our favorite 3 to post as our assignment. I did my quick sketches and posted them.

I felt pretty good about this. I have used different types of charcoal many times. I always associate charcoal with free-flowing, gestural lines. And flowers are ideal for me for a quick sketch cuz I have done too many flower paintings and drawings to count.

Well, so far two of my fellow students have said that they don't believe that I only spent 3 minutes on my sketches. They think I cheated. I'm at a loss. One of the people who said that they don't believe I spent 3 minutes on the drawing also accused another student of looking at his paper while doing a contour drawing assignment in which we weren't allowed to look. The other person was more complimentary like-- it looks like you took a lot of time to do your drawings. When I read that, I just laughed, but now that a second student has questioned my assignment, it bothers me.

How long does it take to do a quick sketch of a flower (especially with charcoal)? You do a quick outline then add shading. bam. You're done. sigh.

I find it ironic that I avoided art school out of fear of being judged as not good enough and now my sketches are being judged for being too good.

Annie, can I share your blankie?
 
Come under my blankie and I will explain it all to you. Jealousy my dear that's all it is oh and narrow mindedness ...... because they can't do it as well and in such a short amount of time well then neither can anyone else and that my dear is their problem not yours. Your conscience is clear so just think nice thoughts about the poor souls with lesser talents and smaller minds
 
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