Training a Sub (both male and female)

When you say this in your profile



The best fairytale harts are white, not golden. I'm fascinated that you've had your share of girlfriends. Do tell me more, weasel.

Thanks for promoting my cause Mr Weasel. But then again I should say get a life coward; you don’t even have the balls to say who you are. You most probably don’t find anything about yourself that’s worthy to write home about:rolleyes:
 
While I can almost wrap my head around the concept of "inferior", the desire to invite a "worthless" person into one's life always confuses me. Why waste time on something that has no worth? No value?

key word is almost, even on the "inferior" portion.
 
While I can almost wrap my head around the concept of "inferior", the desire to invite a "worthless" person into one's life always confuses me. Why waste time on something that has no worth? No value?

It’s not a waste of time at all; it’s a free choice of win-win situation. I enjoy a lot from what I get from the sub and from what I give her and see her growing her sexual capacity and developing her sexual skills and personality. On her turn she gets lots of erotic and sexual fulfillment from being in the position to live and experience her need of giving and serving in all aspects of the relationship, and this gives her her sense of worth; her sense of existence.

My purpose is not hurting or demeaning; my purpose is the same as hers sharing and enjoying. It’s just like Yin en Yan, a dom and a sub are complementary for each other.
 
It’s not a waste of time at all; it’s a free choice of win-win situation. I enjoy a lot from what I get from the sub and from what I give her and see her growing her sexual capacity and developing her sexual skills and personality. On her turn she gets lots of erotic and sexual fulfillment from being in the position to live and experience her need of giving and serving in all aspects of the relationship, and this gives her her sense of worth; her sense of existence.

My purpose is not hurting or demeaning; my purpose is the same as hers sharing and enjoying. It’s just like Yin en Yan, a dom and a sub are complementary for each other.


so who is the negative energy in this oh so wonderful balance?
 
No, whats too wonderful for you to understand is polite social interaction
 
.. this gives her her sense of worth; her sense of existence.

My purpose is not hurting or demeaning; my purpose is the same as hers sharing and enjoying. It’s just like Yin en Yan, a dom and a sub are complementary for each other.
There very well might be women/ subs like that out there, but I'd hope their sense of worth would be derived from something else.

Oh, so you're demeaning only to your fellow posters?
I'm figuring English is not your first language, huh?
He's studied it, the profile says. Although, I'm guessing he failed, or didn't perform well at all. Sorry, k9, but your posts don't indicate a mastery of the language...not even much of a good approximation thereof. Mind you, I know, 'cause English is not my first language either.

ETA: your username is karma...and yet you act like an ass. What do you expect in return, bud?
 
teknight, your english is much better than quite a few native english speakers i know. youre doing wonderfully
 
OOOOH.. SMART!

Nah, bro. You've managed to turn her off.


Not just turn off. Make me angry. I hate insensitive apes that do not have any understanding of true caring or good relationships as well as not observing common courtesy.
 
It’s not a waste of time at all; it’s a free choice of win-win situation. I enjoy a lot from what I get from the sub and from what I give her and see her growing her sexual capacity and developing her sexual skills and personality. On her turn she gets lots of erotic and sexual fulfillment from being in the position to live and experience her need of giving and serving in all aspects of the relationship, and this gives her her sense of worth; her sense of existence.

My purpose is not hurting or demeaning; my purpose is the same as hers sharing and enjoying. It’s just like Yin en Yan, a dom and a sub are complementary for each other.

If you enjoy what you receive [from a submissive lover], logic would presume what she gives is of value; therefore, she cannot be "worthless".

I'd also put forth that submissive-types who wrap their entire sense of existence/worth up in their lover, aren't necessarily submissive... co-dependent, yes; submissive, no.

I do, however, agree that a dominant-type and submissive-type are often simply opposite sides of the same coin.
 
Not just turn off. Make me angry. I hate insensitive apes that do not have any understanding of true caring or good relationships as well as not observing common courtesy.
Now, now. No reason to insult apes! :D
If you enjoy what you receive [from a submissive lover], logic would presume what she gives is of value; therefore, she cannot be "worthless".
Gotta ask- did you study econ? :)
I'd also put forth that submissive-types who wrap their entire sense of existence/worth up in their lover, aren't necessarily submissive... co-dependent, yes; submissive, no.
Thank you for saying this. I wanted to say something similar (well, far less psych-ey) but felt like I might talking out of my ass.
 
Not just turn off. Make me angry. I hate insensitive apes that do not have any understanding of true caring or good relationships as well as not observing common courtesy.

You made my day, bye for now:rose:
 
Gotta ask- did you study econ? :)

Ye gods no. Econ has too much mathematical sorts of thingies in it for someone like me to enjoy the labor... I'm simply more pragmatic than is good for me. LOL

Thank you for saying this. I wanted to say something similar (well, far less psych-ey) but felt like I might talking out of my ass.

Co-dependent emo-submissives who go "OMG he didn't text me today I'm going through sub-drop!" / "Your pleasure is my pleasure [I shall now remove my brain less utilizing my own opinions label me unsubmissive]" drive me batty... although, those sorts never seem at a loss for lovers, and I usually am, so what do I know? LOL
 
Ye gods no. Econ has too much mathematical sorts of thingies in it for someone like me to enjoy the labor... I'm simply more pragmatic than is good for me. LOL



Co-dependent emo-submissives who go "OMG he didn't text me today I'm going through sub-drop!" / "Your pleasure is my pleasure [I shall now remove my brain less utilizing my own opinions label me unsubmissive]" drive me batty... although, those sorts never seem at a loss for lovers, and I usually am, so what do I know? LOL
Ahh, see?
If you had some econ training, you'd do a marginal cost/marginal benefit type of analysis, and determine how crazy you should be for an optimal number of lovers. :devil:

That was bad of me. I'm sorry. And, you're right: "Ye gods no" at econ math. It's just...evil.
 
Ahh, see?
If you had some econ training, you'd do a marginal cost/marginal benefit type of analysis, and determine how crazy you should be for an optimal number of lovers. :devil:

That was bad of me. I'm sorry. And, you're right: "Ye gods no" at econ math. It's just...evil.

Yes, but then I'd have to factor in the cost/benefit of things like triple[+] penetration + mindfucks + humiliation (while factoring in time management for things like work and errands and parenting) to reach the ideal number of lovers, and that kinda math is waaaaaaaaaaay beyond me. I never even survived Algebra in high school much less higher mathematics. LOL
 
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