Undefinable D/s relationships.

CutieMouse said:
[Yay! Insomnia!] Any angst over fitting the cultural "true" definition of Susie Slave is thus eliminated.

[/Yay! Insomnia!]

I don't think there is a "true" definition, just the dynamic that works for the people involved.

I just see so many "real" or "true" doms/subs out there but it's never seemed to be quite right.
 
LadyAria said:
LMAO.

I know who I am. I'm the woman who wants to have forehead sex with Homburg.

And my forehead wants it with you.

*takes off his glasses and shines up the fivehead*
 
Good Morning HUMBUG

What about it? Do you play so many roles you dont know, from one minute to the next, if youre cowboy, indian, or the horse they rode in on?
 
I can't sleep right now, so this might be kinda rambly...(rambly...my new word)

I think it's the strict definitions in bdsm that turn me off, and make me question whether I'm all that kinky. I don't particularly want a relationship that only fits into a book written by Jay Wiseman, kwim?

I have needs and desires. Some of them are kinky, and some of them aren't. And it is all so fluid. I think I will go through periods where I feel very submissive, and then times when I don't.

What I like about the bdsm world is that we think about the way power plays in our relationships. I love that I have found the space to be conscious of all these different dynamics. It's the rigidity - or maybe too much scrutiny (ten page thesis on slave positions, for example) - that I don't particularly care for.
 
graceanne said:
I'd say it's fair to say that ANY relationships are boundless, and the people in them are free to feel and be without real fear of losing themselves.

It seems to me that the vanilla, christian, etc.. set some odd rules that run counter to a really fulfilling relationship. And I happen to know that a lot of them are closet kinksters!
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Good Morning HUMBUG

What about it? Do you play so many roles you dont know, from one minute to the next, if youre cowboy, indian, or the horse they rode in on?

Luckily, you're centered enough to know that I was just messing with you above, JBJ =)

Yes, I do play quite a good number of roles. Father, husband, corporate drone, Dom, friend, handyman, etc. And I am of the opinion that everyone plays multiple roles. As to not knowing, I would think that would depend on how many hats you wear at a given time, and how adept you are at knowing which hat you've got on. I tend to know which role is primary at any given time. It's sufficient for my purposes.


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LadyAria said:
woo hoo, I see the ripples calling. :cathappy:

I ripple with cranial masculinity. For you, and only you.
 
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LOSTINTHEWOODS

I think we're talking about a person's basic sameness. You can like Chinese and Mexican and fried chicken and still be the same person. But what's going on here is people believe theyre all kinds of things; like they change their head when they change their costume.
 
Homburg said:
Luckily, you're centered enough to know that I was just messing with you above, JBJ =)

Yes, I do play quite a good number of roles. Father, husband, corporate drone, Dom, friend, handyman, etc. And I am of the opinion that everyone plays multiple roles. As to not knowing, I would think that would depend on how many hats you wear at a given time, and how adept you are at knowing which hat you've got on. I tend to know which role is primary at any given time. It's sufficient for my purposes.


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I ripple with cranial masculinity. For you, and only you.

There is a lot of power just in the eyebrows you know!
 
HUMBUG

Roles isnt what this is all about. I know people, women particularly, who change their whole goddamned lifestyle depending on who their boyfriend is. It's like they have no consistent innards. Fortunately the condition has a diagnosis: Histrionic Personality Disorder.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
LOSTINTHEWOODS

I think we're talking about a person's basic sameness. You can like Chinese and Mexican and fried chicken and still be the same person. But what's going on here is people believe theyre all kinds of things; like they change their head when they change their costume.

My costume can't hide my being an asshole, it's part of my manly essence! :cool:
 
Jesus! GRACIE

Trotting out that old horse again? Buy a thesaurus and learn some new words.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
LOSTINTHEWOODS

I think we're talking about a person's basic sameness. You can like Chinese and Mexican and fried chicken and still be the same person. But what's going on here is people believe theyre all kinds of things; like they change their head when they change their costume.

I dont think I'm all kinds of things.. like the Chinese, Mexican and fried chicken analogy.. I see how Master and I are as flavors of the same relationship.. but the underlying truth is that he is my Master. He owns me, I am his. But there are days when he needs me to be more of a nurture than kinky sex slave.. There are days where we spend the day watching football instead of beating my ass red. But that doesnt mean that I'm any less submissive to him or I see him as less dominant. It's just another flavor
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
Jesus! GRACIE

Trotting out that old horse again? Buy a thesaurus and learn some new words.

WOO HOO! The troll talks to me! :nana:

If you don't like it PUT ME ON IGNORE!

http://www.mninter.net/~richard/Please do not feed the trolls.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/hedonisticpleasureseeker/Please_Do_Not_Feed_The_Troll.jpg

http://enigma.dune.net/~eric/Do-not-feed-the-troll.PNG

http://www.trojaner-board.de/attach...em-gehort-dieses-board-do_not_feed_trolls.jpg

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/111/0/e/Don__t_feed_the_Troll.jpg

:devil:

You trolls are so cute! The truth is you're pissed cause I remind people not to respond to your bullshit. I'm ruining your fun. Poor widdle trollie!
 
GRACIE

I dont take you seriously enough to put you on ignore. And youre not a nuisance. I like silly and superficial.
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
GRACIE

I dont take you seriously enough to put you on ignore. And youre not a nuisance. I like silly and superficial.

Flatterer. :D
 
LadyAria said:

I have to admit I got tired of having to find a link for troll art every time we got a new troll, and bookmarked several of my favorites. :D

Lazy? Moi?
 
EMPRESS

Yes. I agree. I think HUMBUG is suggesting the same interactions you are.

Lemme see if I can articulate my point better. I believe many posters here are lost at sea as to who they are. They assume the traits of whatever costume they put on.

I was involved with a woman who cried when she was naked because she lost a sense of who she is. When she dates a banker she dresses in suits and attends Barry Manilow concerts. When she dates a biker she gets more tattoos, wears boy-shorts, talks like a Marine, and goes to the Roller-Derby to watch the girls fight.
 
I was in the bathroom a little while ago and saw myself in the mirror when I realized... dammit.... I'm really pretty! :eek:
 
JAMESBJOHNSON said:
EMPRESS

Yes. I agree. I think HUMBUG is suggesting the same interactions you are.

Lemme see if I can articulate my point better. I believe many posters here are lost at sea as to who they are. They assume the traits of whatever costume they put on.

I was involved with a woman who cried when she was naked because she lost a sense of who she is. When she dates a banker she dresses in suits and attends Barry Manilow concerts. When she dates a biker she gets more tattoos, wears boy-shorts, talks like a Marine, and goes to the Roller-Derby to watch the girls fight.

Sounds like a good lil girl to me, she aims to please!
 
Here ya go MARIA

I feel pretty
Oh so pretty
I feel pretty and witty and gay
And I pity
Any girl who isn't me today
I feel charming
Oh so charming
It's alarming how charming I feel
And so pretty
That I hardly can believe I'm real
See the pretty girl in that mirror there?
Who can that attractive girl be?
Such a pretty face
Such a pretty dress
Such a pretty smile
Such a pretty me!
I feel stunning
And entrancing
Feel like running
And dancing for joy
For I'm loved
By a pretty wonderful boy
 
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