Voter fraud is a myth

[Politruk]

Apart from voter fraud -- legally ineligible voters voting -- the only kind of election fraud possible is ballot-box stuffing -- dishonest counting of votes.

Obviously, you can't pull that off without help inside the elections office.

And to get that, you need the power of an incumbent.

In countries where elections are rigged, they are never rigged against the incumbent.

So why does anybody think it possible that the 2020 election was rigged against Trump?

 

[CherryCupcake]

i Ivery much distrust this source. Voter fraud is rare to non-existent and while conservatives have made this false claim for years, always with loud charges but never with evidence. In Ohio, which has a Republican supermajority the Attorney General just indicted someone who dies two years ago for an election ten years earlier, and you know the time in late October was not an accident.

Conservatives just don't want to admit that as they have become more and more detached from reality that many, many Americans find them and their constant lies repulsive. And therefore they cannot understand why he lose. They lose because where they have not gerrymandered themselves into dominance, they are losers.

 

[Pad_Foot]

The penalties for noncitizens voting are severe. Up to a $5K fine and five years in prison followed by a likely deportation and ban from ever returning to the US. It's hard to believe anyone who has been through the visa process would take that sort of a risk. Registration from illegal immigrants would identify them to the authorities and place them at risk of being detained. An immigrant would have to be incredibly stupid to knowingly violate the law and vote in a US election.

Apparently there are between 1500 and 1600 sad non citizens in Virginia then!
Amazing !!
But ?? A case that will go to the Supreme Court if Trumplikkans don’t win or end up losing by a narrow margin.
Why? Because they F’d up and don’t follow the law. ( “They” being the voters or the state )

 

[deckardB26354]

It is? I don't understand. The Lancaster County Board of Elections just announced they’ve uncovered a MAJOR voter fraud scheme in Pennsylvania

I thought you said voter fraud was a hoax?! According to the Board, up to 2,500 fraudulent voter registration applications were dropped off in two batches shortly before the deadline. Authorities believe an organization is behind this fraud, and the District Attorney has vowed to investigate and hold them responsible.

Hmmm…

I find it rather interesting that in a primarily Republican county that they would feel the need to have organizations to register people to vote. It’s almost like Trump screaming idiotically about rampant voter fraud and the 2020 election being stolen from him might drive efforts to discredit the voting process. That would make it easier to show system irregularities in court when they lose in November and contest the election results.

Lancaster County DA, commissioners link fraudulent voter registrations to paid canvassing​

https://lancasteronline.com/news/po...cle_5132ce60-92dd-11ef-9ec2-d32918af4f5b.html

A large number of suspicious voter registration applications were dropped off at the county elections office near Monday's deadline, county officials said. An investigation by the district attorney's office found incorrect addresses, false identification information, false names and names that did not match Social Security information.

The officials said one or two organizations that conducted registration drives in the county in recent months were responsible for the applications. They did not name the organizations.

The district attorney did not provide information on who was funding the canvassers but asked anyone who had been approached about suspicious registrations to contact her office.

"It appears to be an organized effort," Adams said, noting that the investigation is ongoing.

 

[Politruk]

Registrations are not votes.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Hmmm…

I find it rather interesting that in a primarily Republican county that they would feel the need to have organizations to register people to vote. It’s almost like Trump screaming idiotically about rampant voter fraud and the 2020 election being stolen from him might drive efforts to discredit the voting process. That would make it easier to show system irregularities in court when they lose in November and contest the election results.

Lancaster County DA, commissioners link fraudulent voter registrations to paid canvassing​

https://lancasteronline.com/news/po...cle_5132ce60-92dd-11ef-9ec2-d32918af4f5b.html

Part of a large scale canvassing operation? If one party or the other is paying to have voters registered, strikes me it's much more likely to be someone is scamming whoever's paying them and filing bogus registrations to collect more $'s. That's happened before.

One of the things that turns our electoral system into a farce. Voter registration should be totally non political, and they should be tasked with registering every single eligible voter regardless of political affiliation, as well as maintaining the rolls in a strictly non-political manner based solely on LEGAL eligibility.

https://apnews.com/article/pennsylv...nvestigation-8380686817ed4d4eb16dc303d01b2a76

 

[YDB95]

Part of a large scale canvassing operation? If one party or the other is paying to have voters registered, strikes me it's much more likely to be someone is scamming whoever's paying them and filing bogus registrations to collect more $'s. That's happened before.

If they're trying to fly under the radar, they wouldn't register a suspiciously large number of voters of the opposite party from the majority of that county. If we suddenly saw tens of thousands of Republican registrations in Philadelphia...oh, never mind. You would just take that as proof that Blacks are flipping to the Republicans.

 

[ChloeTzang]

If they're trying to fly under the radar, they wouldn't register a suspiciously large number of voters of the opposite party from the majority of that county. If we suddenly saw tens of thousands of Republican registrations in Philadelphia...oh, never mind. You would just take that as proof that Blacks are flipping to the Republicans.

I have no opinion on this one politically - I still think this is a canvassing company(?) scam ripping off someone who's paying them to get out and register voters. The KISS rule and look for the money. It kind of makes sense, but I guess now they're on it it won't be too hard to track down.

 

[deckardB26354]

Part of a large scale canvassing operation? If one party or the other is paying to have voters registered, strikes me it's much more likely to be someone is scamming whoever's paying them and filing bogus registrations to collect more $'s. That's happened before.

One of the things that turns our electoral system into a farce. Voter registration should be totally non political, and they should be tasked with registering every single eligible voter regardless of political affiliation, as well as maintaining the rolls in a strictly non-political manner based solely on LEGAL eligibility.

Yeah, it has happened before. Some billionaire Asperger’s retard is giving away million dollar checks to get people to vote.

 

[Politruk]

Part of a large scale canvassing operation? If one party or the other is paying to have voters registered, strikes me it's much more likely to be someone is scamming whoever's paying them and filing bogus registrations to collect more $'s. That's happened before.

E.g., with ACORN:

During the 2008 elections, a few ACORN employees engaged in fraud. However, this was not ballot box stuffing as many claim, but falsification of voter registration forms in order to get paid for work they didn't do. In other words, laziness rather than conspiracy. The FBI was even called in and found no evidence of "widespread fraud."

 

[Politruk]

xxxx

 

[Rightguide]

I notice nobody has contradicted this.

Most of us understand the reality of voter fraud. Only the left denies its existence. Go here, big dummy:

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

 

[Rightguide]

Frustration Boils as Pennsylvania Voters Witness ‘Non-English Speaking Citizens’ Escorted Past Long Lines to Vote: Report​

by Jim Hᴏft Oct. 30, 2024 8:15 am

A shocking scene reportedly unfolded at a satellite election office in South Park Ice Rink in Bethel Park, PA, where early voters, who had been waiting for hours, witnessed ‘vanloads’ of ‘non-English-speaking citizens’ allegedly escorted to the front by “translators” to cast their ballots.

According to X user Emma Cawwod, at least “three buses” arrived, with individuals being guided in by representatives from “Vote Today PA,” a vote mobilization group funded by the progressive organization Working Families Power, which advocates for causes like “economic fairness, racial justice, gender equity, climate sustainability.”

Some of these individuals were seen wearing hooded sweatshirts with “Vote Today PA” printed on them.

One witness described a disorganized scene, claiming, “They had these people, they had about 12 of them walked in who were all foreigners, and then they took them up to these younger people help them fill out — they say ‘Vote Today PA’ — and somehow they beat a two-hour line.”

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-as-pennsylvania-voters-witness-non-english/

 

[Politruk]

Most of us understand the reality of voter fraud. Only the left denies its existence. Go here, big dummy:

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

That's the Heritage Foundation, you idiot. Source of Project 2025. Zero credibility. The Brennan Center for Justice has credibility.

 

[Politruk]

Frustration Boils as Pennsylvania Voters Witness ‘Non-English Speaking Citizens’ Escorted Past Long Lines to Vote: Report​

by Jim Hᴏft Oct. 30, 2024 8:15 am

A shocking scene reportedly unfolded at a satellite election office in South Park Ice Rink in Bethel Park, PA, where early voters, who had been waiting for hours, witnessed ‘vanloads’ of ‘non-English-speaking citizens’ allegedly escorted to the front by “translators” to cast their ballots.

According to X user Emma Cawwod, at least “three buses” arrived, with individuals being guided in by representatives from “Vote Today PA,” a vote mobilization group funded by the progressive organization Working Families Power, which advocates for causes like “economic fairness, racial justice, gender equity, climate sustainability.”

Some of these individuals were seen wearing hooded sweatshirts with “Vote Today PA” printed on them.

One witness described a disorganized scene, claiming, “They had these people, they had about 12 of them walked in who were all foreigners, and then they took them up to these younger people help them fill out — they say ‘Vote Today PA’ — and somehow they beat a two-hour line.”

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...s-as-pennsylvania-voters-witness-non-english/

And even you should be ashamed to cite Gateway Pundit.

 

[Pad_Foot]

So they CAUGHT illegal registering!
Good!!
Fine the shif out of all of them and take their right to vote away forever!!

This is proof that the system works!!

Within 90 days ?? Vigilance, not vigilantes(?), should be through the roof!

 

[Politruk]

Do they CAUGHT illegal registering!

No.

 

[Pad_Foot]

No.

‘Twas meant to be SO
CNN allowed their right wing talking heads to PUSH the lie that they caught BALLOTS

Of course ‘rump pushed the lie!! When had he ever told the Truth without any shot attached!?? You know, pushing his garbage!! Not that HE is garbage mind you
He’s just full of shit

 

[Bray123]

Found the voter fraud!

https://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/...cle_ad52eb00-9326-11ef-8b45-8b7e609af446.html

Not even those who think that Gatewaypundot is a real source is going to be surprised to find that it's a MAGAtard voting for Rapists.
Or, proving that fraud exists in order to false-flag another insurrection.

 

[Bray123]

Found another MAGAtard trying to destroy public confidence in voter machines.

The moron stole ballots during a public test of the machines, so that the final count would be wrong.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article294758739.html

 

[Pad_Foot]

Found another MAGAtard trying to destroy public confidence in voter machines.

The moron stole ballots during a public test of the machines, so that the final count would be wrong.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article294758739.html

Fry his ASS!!
No more voting EVER for him
Never him to ever be allowed ANY public office or job of any kind
He should never be allowed to run for office again
But?? Has he had to publicly admit to the crime!

 

[Politruk]

The penalties for noncitizens voting are severe. Up to a $5K fine and five years in prison followed by a likely deportation and ban from ever returning to the US. It's hard to believe anyone who has been through the visa process would take that sort of a risk.

John Stewart once compared it to forging a Bed, Bath & Beyond coupon.

 

[Rightguide]

BS

 

[Politruk]

BS

Voter fraud is a myth and you know it.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

Voter fraud needs to be defined for the various debaters. Voter fraud does exist, however not in large enough numbers to affect the outcome of elections.

I've "debated" with people who believe it exists, and it came to light that, in their mind, ANY voter fraud, no matter how insignificant, is a problem. Their take was that if one fraudulent vote was found, the whole election should be a redo! I had to laugh as their naivety showed they had no idea what it take$ to run an election.

In the US voter fraud is virtually nonexistent in large enough numbers to affect an elections outcome. In that sense it is a myth.