I mean, that was not the type I meant and I think you knew that. I specifically was referring to the ability to know oneself to the extent of knowing where one has flaws and decent qualities and how that can affect others. But sure.
I mean, yeah. I was just kind of wondering what the baseline of being reflective and conscious of how you affect or hurt other people is for most people. No one is perfect, of course. I'm just curious where most people are in terms of that. It was literally just something I was thinking about...
Yes I do. Usually when I'm bored with my usual threads and need some new
Where does the 3 average come from? That presumes a majority of people are absolutely clueless.
Oh my dear, I am so sorry about that. Women are expected to be mothers as well as spouses, to their spouses. Like, we should not have to do double duty. There are a lot of very weird medical double standards related especially to gender. That gives me the sads too.
In that case I’m a zero.
And women are not normally used in medical studies because it is too difficult to control for hormones…umm ok. So we use meds and practices not designed or tested on women. Nice.
When my good friends offer such reflections, how can it not be so? Thank you my friend.Humble and self aware. you must have a lot of mirrors to do so much reflection.
Then isn't that a bit of self awareness? Like, you learn from mistakes. That does require self awareness. If you weren't self aware, you wouldn't accept constructive criticism.
I will hold a mirror or a whiskey and toast to a good person and friend.When my good friends offer such reflections, how can it not be so? Thank you my friend.
Yes, completely agree. My spouse has been through two types of unrelated cancer, and a myriad of other medical issues. The people most impressed with the longevity of our marriage through it all, are always men.
To reply to myself replying to Unquiet, I want to add, in a less grumpy way, that what I am thinking of is more in terms of Socrates's "Know thyself" than in Descartes's "Je pense donc je suis" (the original language of the Cogito, by the way).
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Well, it is always going to be completely subjective. I am pretty sure the most callous jerk thinks they are empathetic and everyone else is too sensitive, if they think of others at all. But they think they are being reflective and conscious enough. So any scale, if it is to be useful, would be how you think you are doing at that moment. Everyone is the hero of their own story, so where I can look at someone's post and think "how could that asshole do that?" they believe they are justified with their actions.
Agreed. Like, we give them a society that says they should be negligent. And if they are nurturing, they are in some way wrong.
CCG, my friend, we have all made such mistakes.
I disagree with that. Some people consider themselves villains in their own story.
So much this. So, so much this. I don't understand why people like to dogpile on people here. Of all places to be super judgmental in a group.
I think you have to work at it. I'm quite extraverted & gregarious. Quieter, more introverted people are easily intimidated, and not without good reason. I can be a steamroller. I have learned to reign it in over the years, take a moment to read people & match their energy rather than bust in like a bull in a China shop.
I will counter disagree. For the most part, people who are playing the ass for the sake of doing so believe they are justified in it, one way or the other. Whether they think they are showing an uncomfortable truth, or defending themselves by vilifying others, or just amusing themselves, they think they are justified.
You are the one of the sweetest people I've met on Lit. Thank you. 
