What Are You Thinking? Continued 14

I mean, yeah. I was just kind of wondering what the baseline of being reflective and conscious of how you affect or hurt other people is for most people. No one is perfect, of course. I'm just curious where most people are in terms of that. It was literally just something I was thinking about...

Edited to add that it wasn't a snipe at anyone at all. It's just something I've been pondering off and on for years.

I think everyone has feelings. That can't be helped, even if those feelings are not rational. What we can help is how those feelings affect others. Sometimes I let the best of my feelings get to me and I do things that are unkind. Like yell at my kids when I'm frustrated and upset. But I can reflect on it and apologize for those behaviors. We all do it, but I don't think having feelings is a good excuse to treat other people badly.
 
Then isn't that a bit of self awareness? Like, you learn from mistakes. That does require self awareness. If you weren't self aware, you wouldn't accept constructive criticism.

I also hurt people and don't understand how I do, sometimes. I think there is maybe a spectrum for different areas.
Spectrum? Yes, but it can also be especially difficult to navigate in places like this, where everything is in black & white, and read/received in whatever mood the reader is in. Plus, I have conversations in the threads, just like this one we're having, and forget that I've got a few stalkery folks that chose to make everything I wrote about them. It blows my mind. One even publicly lost his marbles a few months back. I'm grateful for good friends who can tell me when something I've written is misunderstood, or poorly received. And, for folks who DM me for clarification rather than assuming malice
 
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I will counter disagree. For the most part, people who are playing the ass for the sake of doing so believe they are justified in it, one way or the other. Whether they think they are showing an uncomfortable truth, or defending themselves by vilifying others, or just amusing themselves, they think they are justified.
What I mean is that there are people (myself in particular) who think the other way around. Like, we think that we are awful people and don't deserve good things because we made past mistakes, because we have never been shown love, because we feel lonely, because we have had a lot of trauma. Like, while I may be very, very cognizant of a lot of my flaws, I am also not very aware of any good characteristics. That is what I mean when I say that some people think they are the villain.
 
Spectrum? Yes, but it can also be especially difficult to navigate in places like this, where everything is in black & white, and read/received in whatever mood the reader is in. Plus, I have conversations in the threads, just this one we're having, and forget that I've got a few stalkery folks that chose to make everything I wrote about them. It blows my mind. One even publicly lost his marbles a few months back. I'm grateful for good friends who can tell me when something I've written is misunderstood, or poorly received. And, for folks who DM me for clarification rather than assuming malice
Right. I mean a spectrum of self awareness. But I think that interacting in good faith is something that a lot of people online struggle with, on or off Lit. I struggle with it too, especially if I am in a bad mood, which is something that happens a lot, sadly. I try not to let it affect how I receive something, but it can make my reception of humor to be difficult.
 
What I mean is that there are people (myself in particular) who think the other way around. Like, we think that we are awful people and don't deserve good things because we made past mistakes, because we have never been shown love, because we feel lonely, because we have had a lot of trauma. Like, while I may be very, very cognizant of a lot of my flaws, I am also not very aware of any good characteristics. That is what I mean when I say that some people think they are the villain.
Do you ever ruminate on ALL the times you had a negative interaction and hurt someone’s feelings … even YEARS later and it actually keeps you up at night.

I do this.
 
I guess when you're only stuck with yourself for company 99% of the time, you start to overthink things like this. It's annoying to not be able to get out of that self-reflective state and talk to and help others, if that makes sense. I think, for me, my isolation just has a really bad toll.
I would go insane if I was left to my own self and thoughts that much. Truly.
 
Do you ever ruminate on ALL the times you had a negative interaction and hurt someone’s feelings … even YEARS later and it actually keeps you up at night.

I do this.
Yessssssssss. I was literally just thinking about something cringe that happened a few years ago, while I was at a religious retreat. Sometimes one will lead to another and then you're just left with a montage of all the awful things you have done ever that people probably don't remember.
 
What I mean is that there are people (myself in particular) who think the other way around. Like, we think that we are awful people and don't deserve good things because we made past mistakes, because we have never been shown love, because we feel lonely, because we have had a lot of trauma. Like, while I may be very, very cognizant of a lot of my flaws, I am also not very aware of any good characteristics. That is what I mean when I say that some people think they are the villain.
I can connect with this. I have been the villain plenty. It's a difficult headspace to be in and come out the other side. Not impossible, though.
 
CCG, my friend, we have all made such mistakes.

I dislike the trendy group ones the most. How can people just jump on the bandwagon of disrespecting someone they don't even know. Happens a lot. Happens here on Lit all too often.

I have learned, that one must make these mistakes to learn true self awareness. And, your true friends, will call you out on it when warranted even as I would have them call me out as well.

Doesn't make us not friends. We just deserve better from each other.
Having been the recipient of a bunch of folks who haven't ever, or only casually, interacted with me, and didn't know the full history of the situation, piling on and justifying my public censure was really eye opening as to how pack mentality can run this place.

If I'm not directly involved in something, I'm not going to comment publicly. And, sometimes, it's best to walk away and make liberal use of the ignore feature
 
Yessssssssss. I was literally just thinking about something cringe that happened a few years ago, while I was at a religious retreat. Sometimes one will lead to another and then you're just left with a montage of all the awful things you have done ever that people probably don't remember.
Yes … omg.

This is why I need to put my iPad on to fall asleep at night. Otherwise it’s just a movie of my bad decisions
 
What I mean is that there are people (myself in particular) who think the other way around. Like, we think that we are awful people and don't deserve good things because we made past mistakes, because we have never been shown love, because we feel lonely, because we have had a lot of trauma. Like, while I may be very, very cognizant of a lot of my flaws, I am also not very aware of any good characteristics. That is what I mean when I say that some people think they are the villain.
Ah, I see. I would argue that as well, but I doubt you would agree with me. In the very short time I have known you, I have seen a person reaching out, at times deeply empathically so, to try to encourage people who are at a low point. I don't see a villain, or an awful person. I see someone hurt, who I would love to see heal, and love the positives she brings. I am a romantic, and often a fool, but I believe that everyone is deserving of love and respect, from themselves most of all. I would love to see that in everyone in general, and you in specific.

For whatever that is worth.
 
Yes … omg.

This is why I need to put my iPad on to fall asleep at night. Otherwise it’s just a movie of my bad decisions
It's one of the reasons I sleep with the lights on every night. One of the reasons I will go into LitChat just to watch it until I fall asleep. One of the reasons I end up falling asleep to ghost videos. PTSD also doesn't help, but you work with what you have.

Also, pimento grilled cheese is grilled cheese but 200 times sexier.
 
Ah, I see. I would argue that as well, but I doubt you would agree with me. In the very short time I have known you, I have seen a person reaching out, at times deeply empathically so, to try to encourage people who are at a low point. I don't see a villain, or an awful person. I see someone hurt, who I would love to see heal, and love the positives she brings. I am a romantic, and often a fool, but I believe that everyone is deserving of love and respect, from themselves most of all. I would love to see that in everyone in general, and you in specific.

For whatever that is worth.
You're going to make me cry into my bougie grilled cheese.
 
Ah, I see. I would argue that as well, but I doubt you would agree with me. In the very short time I have known you, I have seen a person reaching out, at times deeply empathically so, to try to encourage people who are at a low point. I don't see a villain, or an awful person. I see someone hurt, who I would love to see heal, and love the positives she brings. I am a romantic, and often a fool, but I believe that everyone is deserving of love and respect, from themselves most of all. I would love to see that in everyone in general, and you in specific.

For whatever that is worth.
In all seriousness, though, I did almost cry. I don't imagine myself to have any redeeming qualities, nor am I looking for anyone to list them. I know that, at this point, if that happened, I would not believe anyone. I sincerely appreciate your kind words. You have been nothing but kind to me, even when I have been very cranky toward you. Any distaste or anger I may hint at you, is really directed at myself. Thank you for your thoughtful words.
 
Really interesting conversation here.
Self awareness and self image and extroverts and introverts.

Not sure what my personal thoughts are.

I think I'm hyper aware of how I may come across. I'm someone who overthinks everything she writes. Who, if she receives a reaction or a reply will go back to the post and check it still comes across how it was intended.

I spend quite a lot of my time alone too with only my internal echo chamber for company. I am working on getting back into the world but it's very daunting. That isolation can make me question and doubt every single thing.

I am unkind to myself which is maybe why I try so hard to bring kindness here as much as I can and I appreciate others that do the same too.
 
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