What is it about casual 'bdsm' that glorifies immature behaviour?

[Etoile]

No so "nice".

It is the life insurance paid out after my wife died of cancer in 2006.

Time to go, my Beloved is hugging me.

Ack, sorry, that didn't occur to me.

 

[Etoile]

I hope you enjoy your online exchanges as much as we enjoy our offline time together.

I sure as hell do. I'm all alone in Japan and spend all my"face time" with other people struggling to understand/be understood. You better believe I enjoy online conversation.

 

[FloggingMolly]

And you see, I simply don't waste my time on topics that are of no interest to me.

Considering you must be forced to read my material at gunpoint, I suspect you have bigger problems than what I write.

~smile~

It's like watching a scary film. You know you'd be better hiding behind the sofa, but the mindless horror of what you're witnessing keeps you coming back.

I am as mature in private as I am in public.

I am sure the same can be said for those who have participated in this discussion.

Wow, that sure sounds fun. And yep, for alot of my time, in private with my wonderful Dom (who I am completely non-casual with) silliness and being foolish is one of our favourite pastimes. Life is crap, why make it more so by not taking a light-hearted view of things? If something (god forbid) was to happen to either of us, I'd like us to be able to look back and remember the weird, quirky, silly, immature things we did together. I've still got a while before I'm ready to consign myself to being emotionally old and jaded.

 

[TypicalDeviant]

I am as mature in private as I am in public.

I am sure the same can be said for those who have participated in this discussion.

According to the system, my last visit was Saturday morning: 4:08 AM. This is Monday morning and my Beloved is still asleep. In about 20 minutes she'll be waking up and we will share another day in my little patch of paradise.

Considering the frequency and volume of posts from you and your friends, which of us has more of a life offline.

~smile~

Oh, you! You must be the life of the party. Are you really confusing people having a light-hearted conversation with immaturity? I would imagine that a good indicator of maturity is knowing when one has to be serious and when one can joke around.

 

[rida]

I went to a store in Harajuku on Saturday called Condomania. It was SUPER tiny and full of giggling teenage tourists, but it was amusing. I didn't stay in there long - again, too many giggling teenage tourists - but I did see some adorable "lollipop" condoms. They were just condoms on a stick, but they were in a lollipop wrapper and really cute.

They make for great presents! just remember that Japanese average size condoms are smaller than American average size condoms ...

I wonder if making condoms 'fun' will make them a bit more relevent to the kiddies these days?

Or to people in general really, since they're getting a bit blase about the whole 'safe sex' thing again.

I think that making them look "cute" might make it easier for girls to pick them up and carry them around. Even in the normal drug stores here in Japan, you can see the female-targeting packaging next to the male targeting ones.
The female targeting ones are often pink or other pastel colors, and you could not guess from the outside what's inside. And to make safe sex even easier, love hotels have free condoms waiting on the stand (in nice sealed packaging).

 

[Seurat]

I am as mature in private as I am in public.

Me too. Explains a lot about me, actually. Of course, I would add that I am just as immature when I am anonymous in public.


And flavoerd comdoms? Any good? That's just not fair. The SO is allergic to latex.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

And flavoerd comdoms? Any good? That's just not fair. The SO is allergic to latex.

Eh. They taste like flavoured latex.

 

[TypicalDeviant]

The mint flavored ones aren't bad, they made my cock all tingly.

 

[fuckmeat]

Moderator Cat is SO worth taking DLuded off iggy for 30secs.

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/hello-good-sir-on-behalf-of-the-internets-i-must-regretfully-inform-you-to-gtfo-and-take-your-fail-with-you-466x500.jpg

See, that was all polite and mature.

 

[BLoved]

I sure as hell do. I'm all alone in Japan and spend all my"face time" with other people struggling to understand/be understood. You better believe I enjoy online conversation.

As did I when I was single. Banning (censoring) a writer is like cutting off fingers.

As for the other thing, no harm done. I assume you didn't know.

 

[BLoved]

It's like watching a scary film. You know you'd be better hiding behind the sofa, but the mindless horror of what you're witnessing keeps you coming back.

~smile~

So what you are saying is that I am a compelling presence on the board

Life is crap

You think so? Try losing a spouse to cancer and a child to a stupid domestic accident.

Regardless of whether my life is "crap" or not, I still don't feel the need to target a single individual for a mountain of vitriol. If that's the kind of person you want to be, the kind of people you want to associate with, that's your choice.

Personally, I prefer to spend my time with my Beloved pursuing more constructive and uplifting interests, which is probably why I do not spend much time here.

 

[BLoved]

Me too. Explains a lot about me, actually. Of course, I would add that I am just as immature when I am anonymous in public.(

It is called "two-faced".

You are genuine when you are anonymous, as you believe there are no consequences to your behaviour here.

You pretend to be something else when face to face, as then there are consequences.

I am sure most people recognize this when they read contributions from you and your pals.

 

[Etoile]

Personally, I prefer to spend my time with my Beloved pursuing more constructive and uplifting interests, which is probably why I do not spend much time here.

I'm confused. From my perspective, you actually spend an awful lot of time here. So do I, of course, but as I mentioned this board is one of my only outlets for communication with people I know in my own language. (I have a few IM-type friends but it's hard to hook up when you're 13 hours apart.) My reason for spending so much time here is that I can't really talk with anybody offline. You seem to spend a lot of time here too...

 

[BLoved]

Are you really confusing people having a light-hearted conversation with immaturity?

I think most people can recognize the difference between immaturity and humour.

 

[BLoved]

I'm confused. From my perspective, you actually spend an awful lot of time here. So do I, of course, but as I mentioned this board is one of my only outlets for communication with people I know in my own language. (I have a few IM-type friends but it's hard to hook up when you're 13 hours apart.) My reason for spending so much time here is that I can't really talk with anybody offline. You seem to spend a lot of time here too...

When my Beloved is busy with other things (her artwork, chores, etc) and assuming I have no chores to worry about, I have from time to time participated more often.

I consider it important to the well-being of novices to educate them regarding the lack of ethics in casual 'bdsm', the abusive, immature behaviour of players.

It is worth my time and effort.

 

[Etoile]

When my Beloved is busy with other things (her artwork, chores, etc) and assuming I have no chores to worry about, I have from time to time participated more often.

I consider it important to the well-being of novices to educate them regarding the lack of ethics in casual 'bdsm', the abusive, immature behaviour of players.

It is worth my time and effort.

so desu ne...

 

[BLoved]

so desu ne...

~smile~

I did a little hunting for that phrase. Came across this which wasn't exactly helpful.

 

[TypicalDeviant]

I think most people can recognize the difference between immaturity and humour.

So why can't you?

 

[Leopald]

Saying casual BDSM glorifies immature behavior is like saying Cesnas glorify terrorism. You've taken a thing, object, or tool and given it a verb, as if it has any say whatsoever. The plane is not responsible for who uses it and to what purpose. Neither is everyone (or even close to a large majority) who climbs into one a terrorist.

You've done 2 things over and over, from the threads that pop up about "casual bdsm is so wrong you should stop now!" That I've decided to even peruse.

1) You've swept your hands in a broad manner and said that "this must be the way EVERYONE who plays is, as that's what I've decided". This view in and of itself demonstrates immaturity. And every time someone points out why they believe you're wrong, you ~smile~ at them and proceed to make the same argument with no facts, no recognition of possible other sides, and no clear point other than the broad sweeping hands. The FACT is that not everyone (or even a majority) of people who practice casual BDSM are immature or hurtful in nature. It has been demonstrated in history that the louder minority often overshadows the quieter majority. And on a side note, you have quoted HIV numbers and statistics, giving the impression that the casual bdsm community as a whole was solely responsible. That's as narrow minded and incorrect as saying old ladies are the reason for all car crashes. Simply untrue.

2) You've sat in your high tower surveying the land of mortals and pointed down at them, claiming they are wrong no matter what they say, and to even logically offer a rebuttal obviously implies they're immature and not ready for wisdom from the great Bloved, who's obviously already learned everything there is to know about all facets of life and love, and is mearly playing this mortal game for his own amusement and to berate people on the internet for enjoying their own version of happiness. You diliberately prod and accuse without provocation, and this goes beyond your broad sweeps now. And if it isn't deliberate, then you must be legally retarded. All people want is to live life in their own way, find their own happiness, and enjoy it while they can, so let them. However they choose is none of your concern.

Since I have made my points, I'll leave it at that. And remind you that its not your responsibility to cure the world of things you have deemed evil. So, since you no longer have a purpose here on Lit, you're free to leave.

But I'm sure you'll ~smile~ and make more broad sweeping statements before launching personal attacks on me for no reason.

 

[chy_girl]

Saying casual BDSM...
*snip*
Since I have made my points, I'll leave it at that. And remind you that its not your responsibility to cure the world of things you have deemed evil. So, since you no longer have a purpose here on Lit, you're free to leave.

But I'm sure you'll ~smile~ and make more broad sweeping statements before launching personal attacks on me for no reason.

QFT and applause to Leopald.

 

[LaRocha]

Cool story, Kate and Leopold Bro.

 

[BLoved]

1) You've swept your hands in a broad manner and said that "this must be the way EVERYONE who plays is, as that's what I've decided".

Incorrect, and if you had read my words rather than the propaganda you would know that not only is that not a quote from me, that is not my position.

I've presented a series of arguments which, collectively, recommend love-based bdsm and opposes casual 'bdsm'.

The one-true-way people are those who believe ridicule and character assasination alone can make their case. They simply cannot conceive of anyone believing other than they do, and attack anyone who disagrees.

This view in and of itself demonstrates immaturity.

And what can we say of someone who has to invent quotes out of thin air to make a point?

It's been fun, but don't expect me to take you seriously after this little demonstration of your alleged 'maturity'.

 

[Leopald]

Incorrect, and if you had read my words rather than the propaganda you would know that not only is that not a quote from me, that is not my position.

I've presented a series of arguments which, collectively, recommend love-based bdsm and opposes casual 'bdsm'.

The one-true-way people are those who believe ridicule and character assasination alone can make their case. They simply cannot conceive of anyone believing other than they do, and attack anyone who disagrees.



And what can we say of someone who has to invent quotes out of thin air to make a point?

It's been fun, but don't expect me to take you seriously after this little demonstration of your alleged 'maturity'.

Incorrect. See? You're not the only one who can say something simply because. But here, I'll go ahead and break it down for you. My qote of your position was correct, it was used in the effect of paraphrasing your entire argument base, which you've used over and over again with little regard to real facts, other than blanket numbers you pull off the internet and claim to be free standing proof.

So, there's one flaw to remind you of. Secondly, you yourself have ridiculed and made character assasssination attempt on people who calmly and intelligently expressed their opinion as different than yours. In essence, you cry foul when your own tactics are used against you and have just proclaimed yourself above reproach. Nobody is above reproach.

I honestly could care less how you percieve my maturity to be. I've made valid points and my "made up quote" was simply the equivalent of all I've read of your posts. You really do believe that casual bdsm is wrong, that's fine. By the same vein of thinking, I present that relationships over all are wrong. People can get hurt and have a chance at diseases, so it obviously must be true.

I've said what I've come to say. Do with it what you will.

 

[FloggingMolly]

See, I'm going to do something wonderful now and block this moron. I know myself well enough to know I am about to say some very cruel and hurtful things that I would never usually allow myself to stoop too. I have too much conscience for that.

Bloved- no-one here is interested, take your C&P buttons and shove them up your arse. That's as kind as I can be.

 

[rida]

never mind